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NBA is getting lame

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Park_Ranger
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Melo going to the knicks is kind of cool because amare stoudemire has always been one of my favorite players... but i just think that all these teams with 2 plus superstars are ruining the balance of the NBA. Personally, I would rather see less teams with superstars and more teams with a solid core group built around one really good player; it would just be more competitive and a more engaging season overall. This is my personal opinion... what do you think?
Feb 22 2011 10:32AM
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.AR6rider.
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The NBA has been lame for a long time. NCAA ftw. College basketball has so much more energy.
Feb 22 2011 11:58AM
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skithedirt
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Im gonna agree with this...

and NCAA plays a lot better defense, I just feel like the NBA defenses give up on a play half way through it most of the time
Feb 22 2011 12:01PM
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alev
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i really do like watching basketball, well good basketball. but the NBA has always been a show. athletes are celebrities, celebrities come to games as if its a show. not to say that there's anything wrong with that, it certainly is entertaining, but ever since the mid 90s and the Bulls were running the NBA it seems to have stayed as a show.

plus the all star game was FUCKIN wack. that was tough to watch. its crazy when you can put 30 of the world's best basketball players on the court, they can put up 300+ points in one game, and they still suck.
Feb 22 2011 12:06PM
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neutralzombie
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i just feel like it really needs to upgrade the challenge of the sport.
Feb 22 2011 12:08PM
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brennanmidwest
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I feel like it has gotten better in the last couple of years, after a real down time after the bulls. There are just so many teams right now that are competitive and have an actual chance to win. Heat, celtics, bulls, magic,now the knicks, lakers, dallas, spurs. plus teams like the thunder are just fun to watch now. that being said, I'd still pick march madness over NBA playoffs without a doubt
Feb 22 2011 12:12PM
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geet
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pro basketball players outplayed their arena a long time ago.


Feb 22 2011 12:24PM
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TechnoPotamus
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i agree with you. the combination of stuck up NBA players and their drama and bullshit turns me off of it.

I apologize to all fans of lebron and melo and d wade and everybody else, i just feel like sometimes these guys lose sight of why they're playing basketball (because hopefully they love it?)
Feb 22 2011 12:27PM
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alev
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i agree. after a serious lull after the bulls were winning, we have some real excitement. watching semi-all star teams like the heat, celtics, magic, lakers, spurs, and maybe the knicks is exciting, but like i said earlier, is so much like a show. like watching the heat is about lebron, wade, and bosh, and hardly about the basketball they play.
its hard to care when a lot of the time, it doesnt look like the players care. but despite how much i disliked seeing lebron and bosh go to the heat, its good for the league. thats the excitement the league needs, now we just need some fights and serious trash talking, but all of that escalates during the playoffs.

i saw some footage of reggie miller and michael jordan fighting, footage i had never seen. watching the espn 30 for 30 on reggie miller was extremely entertaining, and it makes me miss the NBA i started watching when i was younger (mid-late 90s).

but yes, the passion in march madness is so much greater, and is so exciting to watch two random and equal teams fight it out. what was better than the ncaa finals last year, with duke and butler? almost a buzzer beater from the BIG underdog....doesnt get much better than that
Feb 22 2011 12:37PM
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japanada
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There has always been powerhouse teams in the NBA. Thankfully it is what makes for good games imo.
Feb 22 2011 12:42PM
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mad.twatter
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Who watches basketball?
Feb 22 2011 12:43PM
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brennanmidwest
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watch the bulls, such a sick team this year
Feb 22 2011 12:57PM
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grams.
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I have always thought very little of the NBA.
Feb 22 2011 1:00PM
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pelle_munch
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this sucks. the nuggets can't be the nuggets w/o melo or chauncy :'(
Feb 22 2011 1:22PM
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hoodratz47
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yeah the all star game was shitty as fuck... but i still love the game of basketball. i love my blazers.
for me... i block out all the bullshit. and only care about the 48 minutes on the floor. but sports media wants you to care more about the drama that they induce.... and don't even get me started on David Stern. Fuck that guy so much.... hes the reason the league has become Lame.
you know what.. NHL had become lame.... since the lockout it has not been the same.. and you all know it. when i see the WHL team winterhawks play.. at least there seems to be more passion from the players.IMO and Inb4 shitstorm
Feb 22 2011 1:55PM
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.AR6rider.
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I could not agree more. I used to be a diehard NHL fan, and just completely lost interest after the 04-05 "season" Something about it became different for me.
Feb 22 2011 2:07PM
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theBearJew
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They are all acquiring superstars but a full season has yet to be played with said superstars. Id like to see how they play out in the playoffs. Sometimes the best players dont make the best teams.
Feb 22 2011 2:11PM
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DsMoK3
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Well the NBA is fixed, and having all the good players on a few teams just makes it easier to fix the games.
Feb 22 2011 2:26PM
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TheClap.
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Jorden and Pippen

2+ star teams have been around forever
Feb 22 2011 2:26PM
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Anathema
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not only that, but the fact that the ref's calls determine the outcome. fouls are so up in the air, i cant even explain what the fuck a foul is any more. sometimes you see guys get their arms slapped, or even bodychecked (oh it's just hard contact) and theres no call, other times if a guy reaches over a dude's head ever so slightly it's a foul. and what ever happened to 3 in the key and travelling?
Feb 22 2011 2:44PM
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thebeesknees
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the all star game was on TNT....its been getting lame for awhile now.
Feb 22 2011 2:52PM
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hoodratz47
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i know.... man.. some times you can mug some one.. and get away with it.. but then some times you breath on a mother fucker FOUL!

as a said... i love the game itself.. i love playing basket ball in my church league.... but fuck all the drama.
Feb 22 2011 2:56PM
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eldridge
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i think the NBA definitely protects its star players, ive seen lebron take 4 steps on a fast break before dribbling and there is no walk called, and i guess they just have forgotten about carries, but its this economic climate that forces them to try and max revenue, and the best way to do that is protect the star players, and make sure that their teams are in the playoffs
Feb 22 2011 3:00PM
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ski_ENDUB
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I feel like there's way more passion in college sports (more specifically football and basketball) because the athletes have way more to prove and are trying to get to the next level. There's definitely a lacking of heart and motivation in professional sports, they just don't play with as much intensity. I think every player needs to be put on a ricky williams style performance based contract instead of getting paid millions reguardless of how they play.
Feb 22 2011 3:56PM
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eldridge
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that is true until playoffs come around i think anyway
Feb 22 2011 3:58PM
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Alex_G
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bitch you don't know shit about sports
Feb 22 2011 4:00PM
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JustDidIt
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i'm not even going to respond to that hahaha
Feb 22 2011 4:03PM
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eldridge
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wait didnt you just respond? O.o
Feb 22 2011 4:09PM
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ohpatti
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the nba is basically turning into a power of threes, miami and boston already have their three, the knicks are looking to get chris paul next season as well but besides these three teams the rest of the league is kind of built around one core player, youve got the lakers, the thunder, bulls, etc..
Feb 22 2011 4:11PM
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JustDidIt
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hopefully it'll get better once there's a hard salary cap which should be next season
Feb 22 2011 4:29PM
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ORDEAL
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loltimberwolveslol
Feb 22 2011 4:30PM
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alev
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so true! fouls are rigged.
Feb 22 2011 4:53PM
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DERS.
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nice icon..
Feb 22 2011 5:05PM
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brennanmidwest
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it has always been that way though, its not like Jordan didnt get calls because he was a superstar. and in regards to not calling 3 in the key, they call it a ton now, its just on the defense haha
Feb 22 2011 5:31PM
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neutralzombie
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ironic post is ironic.

Feb 22 2011 5:33PM
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dole_juice_rules
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amen brother...I'm a huge knicks fan and Im real upset with this trade...was it really worth trading our whole starting lineup for another stud? wish we just stuck with amare alone
Feb 22 2011 5:51PM
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JustDidIt
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yeah yeah i know. but honestly that was such an ignorant statement. that's like saying football is too easy because i can throw a football and sprint 100 yards so we're going to make the field 200yards and the football 10 lbs. the sport isn't hard because it's hard to make a ball into a hoop. it;s hard because it is hard to score when there's a 6'10'' with a 36 in vertical in between you and the basket and so on...
Feb 22 2011 6:05PM
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neutralzombie
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i'm just saying, that, while yeah it's a completely active sport, and etc, it just seems like the courts should be bigger and nets higher or something to make it a lot more competitive and difficult to score. i'm not a football fan, by large, but i would say that offhand, just comparing them as an outsider to both, football looks a lot more challenging.
Feb 22 2011 6:25PM
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AwR
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saw this on reddit...
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Feb 22 2011 6:27PM
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pelle_munch
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have you ever played basketball, or even watched basketball?
Feb 22 2011 6:29PM
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neutralzombie
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only in gym class. otherwise, if you need me to use that as an example, my bf played basketball for a few years and etc, and this is pretty much me deliberating his opinion, that we both agree on. so what the fuck does it matter? i'm not hating, i'm criticizing. there's a reason i don't watch it, and i find it ridiculous that you can have over 90 pts a game.
Feb 22 2011 6:35PM
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pelle_munch
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its just another way of playing... some games you score more, but it doesn't really matter because its just as difficult to score 100 points in basketball as it is to score 10 points in hockey, for example.
Feb 22 2011 6:38PM
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.AR6rider.
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I would say it's FAR more difficult to score 10 goals in an NHL game than to score 100 points in an NBA game. I've never seen a hockey game in my life where a team scored 10 goals, but I've seen many 100+ point basketball games.
Feb 22 2011 6:46PM
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neutralzombie
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agreed. the one game i saw ten points in a hockey game was the habs old timers game this past winter, and that's because there's no contact, and lax rules. it's pretty much a struggle to even gain 5 points a game.
Feb 22 2011 6:49PM
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vailsux.com
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You make a great point as to why hockey sucks.
Feb 22 2011 6:59PM
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scratchproteen
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the nba does not play defense during the regular season which is why it is lame. its all 1v1 bs
Feb 22 2011 7:07PM
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hoodratz47
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thats why i watch blazers... its a team mofo!
Feb 22 2011 7:29PM
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JustDidIt
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the points are based on different systems in completely different games, so the high points argument isn't really valid. they should make cricket harder because people score 100 points in that.

and you also perfectly point out how you probably played basketball in gym. no contact and lax rules.
Feb 22 2011 7:57PM
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Ben.
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so by your logic tennis is also easy, because the numerical score is higher than your desired sport. so is football, they score more than hockey. right, because that makes sense.....

Feb 22 2011 7:59PM
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pelle_munch
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I know I know, it was just an example of how different amounts of goals are scored in different types of games.
Feb 22 2011 8:45PM
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neutralzombie
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those two posts have no correlation to each other.
Feb 22 2011 8:50PM
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