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Victory For Bush

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bigJ
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Well, today the US handed over power to the new Iraqi governent two days ahead of schedual in order to thwart insurgents. The entire thing went off without a hitch, prepare to not hear about it.

This morning I woke up to hear on the radio that we had successfully handed over power in Iraq, and I then put on the always faithful Fox News for more info. They had plenty of information, several corispondance, and other call in experts. So, in intrest of getting a fair and balenced view of things I swithced to MSNBC and not a word. They had something about Enron on and nothing about handing over power. Then to CNN, the information did little more then grace the ticker.

When Bush does have a victory, I find it intresting that only one news station covers it in the least. While Fox is right all other media is way left, so I don't see why everyone gives shit to fox for being conservative, they need to balence out the other channels.

Regardless, I find it a shame that only one channel covered this event, and it is definite proof that the media is helplessly liberal and anti-bush.










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Jun 28 2004 7:16AM
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Lanemeyers
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I'm a believer that this won't last long.... Let's hope for the best!

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Jun 28 2004 7:20AM
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NoTeefa
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so when are all the soldiers coming back?


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Jun 28 2004 8:00AM
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i dont think they're coming back yet.. not enough bloodshed.
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Jun 28 2004 8:08AM
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bigJ
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They have to stay longer to train a paramilitary force and keep the Iraqis from killing themselves in the mean time.










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Jun 28 2004 8:10AM
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jumpman
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Just because we gave them power a few hours ago doesn't mean it is automatically a success. The new governmentneeds to be embraced by the people in order for it to be a success. Just because Bush says it was a success, doesn't mean it really was. Look at the Mission Accomplished fiasco.
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Jun 28 2004 8:44AM
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Lord_Piot
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you fucken idiot do you think todays 'hand over' actually means any thing?
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Jun 28 2004 8:44AM
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bigJ
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Yeah, it means alot, the day to day operation of the country is not in our hands anymore, our military is their but we no longer control the government or the nation. Also, no one has said that Iraq is a success, Bush hasn't said a word, but the handing over of power has gone of without attacks that they were expecting.










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Jun 28 2004 8:51AM
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Lord_Piot
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the us still has veto power over pretty much anything
the government they put into power is not a popular government, its a pupper government.
it will all fall apart and you as an american taxpayer will be paying for this fuck up.

the best thing they can do right now is apologize and put saddam back into power.
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Jun 28 2004 8:54AM
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bigJ
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It's soverign, that means the people will choose which means that it will be a popular government, don't talk about it if you are only going to pull shit out of your ass










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Jun 28 2004 8:58AM
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alex_uk
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If they have comlete control, why is the US army still there in its entirety, why is there plans for more troops to go over?

All it means is they have given a bit of power to some Iraqui that's in Gerorge Bush's pocket.
They can still pull all the strings they want to, don't forget that when the war is over they will still need to get their business men in to enusre all that oil doesn't go to waste.

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Jun 28 2004 9:03AM
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bigJ
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The troops are there because the Iraqi government has no paramilitary group or anything to stop chaos from breaking out. The reason, and a bad idea, that more troops are going over is so that they can train the Iraqi paramilitary force. It is funny how pesimistic yall are, I mean the last time we did this it was a success, Afganistan, and now you are so entrenched in your ignorant anti-Bush beliefs that you can't trust anything that the US does. I am thankful that most of you are Canadian and 12 so I don't have to worry about yall in the election. Still, there are so many ignorant anti-Bush kids who do it just to be cool and because they are anti-war.

I can respect you if you are anti-Bush and know what you are talking about, but this is just stupid.










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Jun 28 2004 9:13AM
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alex_uk
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I am anti-bush because this was an illegal war undertaken with commercial interest.

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Jun 28 2004 9:15AM
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the_friesz
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It seems so easy for all of you to dismiss the fact that none of you know exactly what is going on over there. You say, oh puppet government this, not enough bloodshed that. The fact is what happened today is just the beginning of a long road to a new Iraq. One that is free of dictatorship, and open to the rest of the world. The reason the U.S. military, along with ones of many other countries are still in Iraq and will be for a while is simple. Keep things stablized, keeping the insurgency in check as well as the local milita's. These forces will be there until an Iraqi force is brought up that is capable of handling this task without failure. Stop trying to politicise military and stablization operations. You're all going to do that, but be sure that whatever happens with this next election Iraq will still be there. If Iraq succeeds in building an open democratic society I can guarantee all of you that it would impact the entire middle east like nothing ever before. It's a victory for the people of Iraq.


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Jun 28 2004 9:16AM
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asac
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Its about time Bush gets us out of Iraq. Handed over power wasn't even a victory, nor an accomplishment because we shouldn't have power in the first place.





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Jun 28 2004 9:16AM
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ScratchCobra66
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Bush always gets the short hand, the Communist...i mean Democrats are always trying to knock him down. It makes me mad...i love Rush Limbaugh, hes always talking about this when im at work.













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Jun 28 2004 9:19AM
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bigJ
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Wait, what is your beloved Kerry's plan for Iraq, or your godsend Moore, what do you suppose that the US do. Have you even studied any history, the Marshall plan mabye, no. Rebuilding nations takes time, and this is the start like he said, taking Bush out will not help the situation in Iraq because Kerry has no clue what he is doing. If Bush pulls out now, for no reason, all of the Middle East will go to shit. But the damage is done, now saying suff like 'Bush needs to get out of there' will not help the situation. I fyou have a better idea, state it, if not don't act like you know what is best for the US or Iraq.










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Jun 28 2004 9:22AM
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jumpman
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How can you consider Afghanistan a success? Oh yeah, you watch the 'fair and balanced' opinions of Bill O'Reilley.
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Jun 28 2004 9:22AM
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bigJ
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I have only watched Bill O'Rilye once and I found him to be an asshole. And how do I know Afganistan is a success? My brother is over there right now and he is not getting blown up by car bombs, fighting insurgents in the streets, dying. A success, yes, there is a popular government in place and everything is in order, the people are happy. Yeah, I would call that a success.










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Jun 28 2004 9:28AM
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asac
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My hatred for Bush goes deep. He cares nothing for the people, though he may say he does, his actions don't show it. He makes alliances with big businesses only to make money and even had an alliance with the saudis. Because of the alliance with that saudis, 24 hours after 9/11, Bush allowed a bunch of saudi princes and other muslims fly first class out of the country. They suspect the other muslims could have been highjackers. Anyway, Iraq = worst idea in history, so handing back over to Iraqi control was something long coming anyway which any president could have done.





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Jun 28 2004 9:39AM
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bigJ
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I saw the movie, so stop repeating it. How would you have done it, just pulled out and let them sort things out, send back Saddam because he can get order?











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Jun 28 2004 9:45AM
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asac
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Ummmmmmm, Saddam wasn't a FUCKING DANGER TO US!!! He had no WOMD, and had no connections to Al Quida. The war was a bust. If Saddam got back in power now he might do something because he'd be pissed at us. It was none of our business going half way around the world.





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Jun 28 2004 9:50AM
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bigJ
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I know that, but how would you clean it up. I was not for the war when it started, you don't need to convince me. But what would you do at this point, you just want Bush to pull out so that the entire Middle East would erupt into chaos. Think or don't answer.










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Jun 28 2004 9:53AM
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ATLANTASKI
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HE WAS A DANGER TO HIS OWN PEOPLE and were the only country that has the morals and balls to realize what is happening over there- genocide with the kurds, opressing an entire nation- we realized that this was uncalled for and wrong. thats why we went in. DO YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE IN GAS PRICES SINCE WE GOT INTO IRAQ? NO. thats why that argument not feasible

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Jun 28 2004 9:56AM
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SohCahToa
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its jingoism, not morality and balls
Jun 28 2004 10:01AM
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bigJ
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Accept for the fact that not all of the US is united behind there nation, so no, it isn't










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Jun 28 2004 10:05AM
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SohCahToa
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ill still call it jingoism. maybe nmot everyone is into the cause, but thats natural. what nation has never had any dissent? there are still plenty of people waving flags while pushing their heads further up their ass. over 60% still think connection between 9-11 and iraq is legit. its not so much the informed right that scares me, but more the ignorant 'love it or leave it' patriots
Jun 28 2004 10:13AM
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ATLANTASKI
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9-11 and iraq is bull i think every person that keeps them selves updated with current events knows this, but this doesnt detract from how evil and maliscious sadaam was

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Jun 28 2004 10:15AM
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bigJ
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i don't believe that 60% stat, and there was overwhelming support against the war before it started, not just a few dissidents










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Jun 28 2004 10:16AM
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asac
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Usually i can understand when presidents make mistakes, but Bush made about 20 of the worst mistakes in U.S. history. And here's what i have to say about Iraq. They got BUSHwhacked.





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Jun 28 2004 10:18AM
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ATLANTASKI
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NO ONE CAN SHAVE OUR BUSH!

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Jun 28 2004 10:24AM
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Nickskier
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sometimes the ends does not justify the means.. this is one of those cases.
Jun 28 2004 10:26AM
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ThisAngelicRage
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all you optimists can just shut the fuck up and wait til the fall and voice your opinion by voting. bush fucked us over beyond repair, there will never be any complete success. It's kind of funny, it seems that most republicans are ignorant enough to believe that Bush made no mistake. they just deny all the facts. But lefties always seem to have a grasp on reality.





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Jun 28 2004 10:49AM
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lefties seem to have a firm grasp on cock...........

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Jun 28 2004 10:54AM
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asac
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haha all your political posts on this thread are about sex. Bush takes it in the ass.





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Jun 28 2004 10:56AM
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QuickFlash7
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asac, every one of your posts comes from propoganda that is being aired, the same propoganda you accuse bush of using. the reason this wasnt aired much bigj is bc it was supposed to be a surprise to avoid any attacks



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Jun 28 2004 10:59AM
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asac
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i don't watch tv so how can i see the propaganda that's being aired. even when i do watch tv its only south park or family guy.





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Jun 28 2004 11:00AM
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ATLANTASKI
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you must have not read this whole thread

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Jun 28 2004 11:02AM
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'all you optimists can just shut the fuck up and wait til the fall and voice your opinion by voting.'


same to you friend. (or do the vile defeatists get to mouth off incessantly?)















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Jun 28 2004 11:22AM
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bigJ
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i know it was a suprise, i said that in the beginning, but only fox news picked up on it after the fact, after our ammbassidore was out of the country










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Jun 28 2004 11:27AM
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alex_uk
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So what?
It's not really big news, it's just an Iraqi face instead of an American one, there has been no power change.

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Jun 28 2004 11:30AM
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smuggs
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how is that a victory?? remember like a year and a half ago, on the aircraft carrier, it said mission accompolished?? wouldnt that mean they are done what they are doing? so how do you have a victory when ur done what ur doing?


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Jun 28 2004 11:30AM
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bigJ
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asac, you obviously saw 9/11, and if that isn't propoganda I don't know what is (and don't say that it is fact and documentary b/c I know it technically is, but it is propganda to the highest degree)










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Jun 28 2004 11:30AM
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J.D.
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Well, I have to find out more about this before I comment (and the most telling factor in this case will be what occurs from now on), but from what I can tell, this seems like a step in the right direction.

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Jun 28 2004 12:16PM
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ScratchCobra66
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and by saying that i dont love bush , i just dont like Communist...like Micheal Moore...hes a communist, i wanted John Mccain, hes smart and he likes the people....













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Jun 28 2004 12:20PM
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bigJ
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I think we all wanted McCain










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Jun 28 2004 12:21PM
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J.D.
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^Amen to that, but seriously, a communist? No, he isn't... and why the hell do political discussions in the U.S. these days reek of McCarthyism?

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Jun 28 2004 12:25PM
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bigJ
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We should just start calling out random hollywood people as terrorist.

Paris Hilton is an LA Al Qeada cell, Michael Jacks Head HAMAS recruter (ages 12 and under), Rosie O'Donald hopefully suicide bomber










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Jun 28 2004 12:28PM
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jumpman
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^this is the first time we have agreed. I think that JD said it best though, time will tell if it is a success. Right now it is a step in the right direction.
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Jun 28 2004 12:57PM
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ThisAngelicRage
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Rosie O'Donald hopefully suicide bomber

hahahahahahahahaha. wow i laughed really hard at that. props


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Jun 28 2004 1:00PM
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ThisAngelicRage
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nevermind that post was for a differnt thread.... i shouldnt even be trying to use the internet right now





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