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Rossignol S4 jib vs Armada Halo

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Sven824
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Hey guys im just looking for a good comparison of the skis. as far as weight, flex, durability, and swing weight.... im also considering the Alpha 2 and the Alpha 1..... anything will help... but mainly comparing the S4 to other skis would be good...
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Feb 16 2011 9:40AM
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zahava
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Well i would flex wise, it would go halo's
Feb 16 2011 10:01AM
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Sven824
Posts: 154 - Karma: -4
any idea what the flex of the S4 is like/ r they light
Feb 16 2011 12:06PM
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zahava
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Why does ns keep cutting my posts in half?

I ment to say, flex in order from soft to stiff would be halos - s4's - alpha 1's. All three a very light, with low swing weights. The armada's will feel a bit softer and more jibby on snow because of the rocker.
Feb 16 2011 12:10PM
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Sven824
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The S4's and the Halo's have rocker
Feb 16 2011 1:34PM
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stickerman
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S4's are not rockered.
Feb 16 2011 2:33PM
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Boggs
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this
Feb 16 2011 3:12PM
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zahava
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NO, s4's are full camber. Why did rossi have to post tip and tail height as "rocker" on their website?
Feb 16 2011 3:42PM
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Sven824
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lol thats dumb
Feb 16 2011 5:04PM
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No_Dub
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hahah good question.
Feb 16 2011 6:29PM
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Sven824
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anyone know the flex of the s4/ what is lighter out of the skis
Feb 16 2011 9:56PM
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zahava
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S4's are really stiff, granted i'm only 130lbs. Armada halos/alphas are lighter than s4's because the tips and tails are tapered.
Feb 16 2011 9:59PM
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Sven824
Posts: 154 - Karma: -4
Dammit then whats better about the S4 if anything
Feb 16 2011 10:02PM
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zahava
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Inb4 me nodub type a 5 paragraph essay, ahaha.

Their the best skis ever, so much fun, ridiculously stable, really poppy, light weight, ridiculously durable (i've skied mine for just under 15 days and they show no sign of use other than cosmetic damage), top sheets barely chip.
Feb 16 2011 10:14PM
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zahava
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I completely disagree, i love mine on rails cus their so light and durable, they're also amazing on jumps. They also rip trees, groomers, and do pretty well in a couple in's of pow.
Feb 16 2011 10:17PM
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Black.Bird
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Jumps, pipe, charging down groomers= S4

Jibbing, rails, smaller jumps and all that fun stuff= Halo

The S4 is much stiffer then the Halo, it's pretty much a pipe ski.
Feb 16 2011 10:25PM
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Obie.
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I think watching Dale T. absolutely kill it riding the s4's in the spring edit is good enough advertisement to say they are in fact a good all around park ski
Feb 16 2011 10:38PM
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Sven824
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shit i really like the S4's i wish they had the rocker though... this is tough... i also dont want a ski thats too stiff.... can u still butter on the s4's
Feb 16 2011 10:44PM
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Black.Bird
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It all depends on how much you weight and what size you get.
Feb 16 2011 10:48PM
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Sven824
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im 6'3" 165
Feb 16 2011 10:51PM
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Black.Bird
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I don't think you should have too much trouble buttering them, but the Halos would make it easier for sure.
Feb 16 2011 10:53PM
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zahava
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I'm 5'8 130 and i can't really butter my s4's, I can kinda do tail presses on them, but no nose butters. You're lot bigger than be so you should be able too. Halos will be a lot more buttery-jibby.
Feb 17 2011 12:03PM
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circleface95
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i dont mean to jack your thread here but would u say that the S4s or the Alpha 1s are better for all mountain and big kickers, generally? cuz i'm trying to decide between these 2
Apr 6 2011 7:20PM
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Mackenzie.L
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I have skied both s4's and i own halos, halos are nice but they kind of get annoying in the park,skiing switch is kinda a pain but the flex is suuper nice and buttery. s4's are stiff and and remind me of the amplids. not sure if that helped but thats my experience with both the s4's and the halos
Apr 6 2011 11:08PM
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VT_scratch
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and tim mcchesney (sp?)
Apr 7 2011 1:32AM
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circleface95
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sweet thanks man. im gonna lean s4 i think then. do u think alpha 1s would b much different than the halos?
Apr 7 2011 7:02PM
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hjb
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Because they know that if they just put the word 'rocker' in the description of the ski somewhere, it'll probably sell more. Even if actually putting rocker on an S4 would completely ruin a tried and true, ripping all mountain park ski.
Apr 8 2011 6:58AM
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JBlend
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You want the S4's. There is one kid at my mountain with the Halo's and he is terrible. The kid with the S4's kills it.

But seriously, both skis are going to be able to put up with a lot, but I'd say the S4's are more durable though. Rossignol gear lasts.

Apr 8 2011 12:56PM
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circleface95
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yah durability is always good. also anything to say about coreupts? cuz my freind told me about the tj pros and im not sure what i think of em
Apr 8 2011 6:21PM
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