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Seattle PD is out of control and our DA is lacking a spine.

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NW_Rider
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014235279_policeshooting16m.html

Link for more detailed info and the video is posted in the story as well.

Basically, Officer Ian Birk fatally shot Indian Woodcarver John Williams in broad daylight. He pulled up behind Mr. Williams and ordered him to " drop a knife" from 30ft away. seconds later he fired off 4 rounds into Williams back and side. Williams was nearly deaf and the knife was found closed, a 4" legal blade and for anyone wondering, those knifes can't just collapse on themselves to shut.




So basically tomorrow DA Sattenburg and Mayor McShcwinn are announcing that no criminal charges will be pressed against Birk. It is absurd, this man just got away with murder. Sure there will be a civil suit, but this man needs to be in jail. The news was released at like 10pm tonight and protest are already being organized, so things will probably get pretty interesting.

Few other examples of SPD brutality over the past year.











Feb 16 2011 2:58AM
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ECB
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WOW

Times like these it's scary to think about how some people get away with certain things because of who they are
Feb 16 2011 3:00AM
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NW_Rider
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The cop felt threatened yet multiple bystanders who were closer to the victim felt no threat and were asking why the officer had shot him.

This was murder.
Feb 16 2011 3:05AM
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poluhasuper
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Washington and some of those other west coast states, theres a significant population of you guys that are inhumane ignorant racist retards, go die in a fire along with these cops. Its a rarity to see this happen on the East coast to this extent, even considering differences in population and population density. I think, honestly, it starts from a lack of education out there. State funding for better school programs should be put in place, i think that it would help your Moronic and ignorant behavior.
Feb 16 2011 3:16AM
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Elijah.
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What a troll.
Feb 16 2011 3:17AM
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NW_Rider
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Seattle is the most educated city in the country...
Feb 16 2011 3:25AM
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poluhasuper
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whatever makes you feel better. Ive never seen so many stupid people as I did when I went to Idaho twice. You always hear about how our country is ignorant and our global view on the world is totally missing, and i thought i understood why. The problem is huge with you people out there.

Tell me, would you be able to tell me where the strait of Gibraltar is and what two countries its between, and what country has a territory there without looking it up? NO WAY.

I was scared to tell you the truth. The misinformation, the Mindset some of these people had when yo talked to them about international relations, they had absolutely no brain, and they were armed to their fucking teeth, and clenching a bible. It seems as though some of you west coasters live in a completely different reality.

*remember, im not generalizing ALL of you, just some of the shit i heard talking to certain people in Idaho, sorta scares me to think these are grown individuals that think they know what they are doing and they can vote. SCARY SHIT
Feb 16 2011 3:26AM
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skier_boy26
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THE ONE WHERE THE COP PUNCHES THE BITCH IN THE FACE WAS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED

THE ACLU, NAACP, ALL THEM BITCHES BACKED OFF AND MADE HER APOLOGIZE

WATCH THE WIRE MAN

INB4 CAPSLOCK IS COOL
Feb 16 2011 3:27AM
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NW_Rider
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Apparently you are the one who failed geography because Idaho definitely does not equal Seattle. Thats like saying I went to West Virginia and then calling all people from Pennsylvania inbreds.

I don't know why I even bother refuting this, you are doing a great job on your own.
Feb 16 2011 3:29AM
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skier_boy26
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NO GOOGLE

between spain and morocco, and it is part of the UK

the PNW is pretty snappy. The only real exception is northern idaho where a few fringe nutjobs congregate, but even then its pretty slim.

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Feb 16 2011 3:29AM
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Elijah.
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Idaho =! Washington
Feb 16 2011 3:31AM
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poluhasuper
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YOur inner city might be just fine, realize that you are only including schools in your city limits.


You guys are dumber than Idaho, and Idaho aint even that stupid according to this.
Feb 16 2011 3:32AM
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NW_Rider
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Back to the point though, it is absurd that this officer will not see a single criminal charge brought against him.
Feb 16 2011 3:32AM
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poluhasuper
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Agreed 100%
Feb 16 2011 3:33AM
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skier_boy26
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They would prosecute if they thought there was even a slim chance at conviction, but there isn't. It would be a long, expensive, drawn out process and in the end the jury would say "not guilty."
Feb 16 2011 3:36AM
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qbehr
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atleast they are super chill with parties
Feb 16 2011 3:36AM
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NW_Rider
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I don't know how the DA could ever look Williams family members in the face after not even going for a manslaughter conviction. A King County Inquest jury already voted

4- Birk faced no imminent threat before shooting Williams

3- Could not determine if Birk faces an imminent threat

1- Birk faced an imminent threat.

I know these are not charges for manslaughter or murder, but how broken is our legal system when we won't even bring it to trial to see it play out? And when people write it off to "oh well, would have just taken time and money anyhow."

How is that justice?
If that was your relative, would you really still feel that way?
Feb 16 2011 3:46AM
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vandersteeze
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QFT

Ahahah
Feb 16 2011 3:47AM
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qbehr
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come on bro have you seen them give any mip's and what is qft
Feb 16 2011 4:05AM
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Balto
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i honestly would not be surprised or upset if the cop who killed the homeless guy was murdered
Feb 16 2011 4:20AM
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hoodratz47
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in portland it does not matter your race... your gonna get tased...

more whites get fucked up then blacks or anybody else...
Feb 16 2011 4:55AM
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Static
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honestly guys just think about what these cops go through every day, facing life or death situations, protecting you the citizen. If they squeeze one off prematurely, or sock someone encroaching their fist area we should just take it and thank them for protecting us and keeping us safe. When you're lying in the street beaten and robbed who are you gonna call for help? Probably not some paramedic that's for sure. everyone always complains about police but really there are so many laws odds are you're breaking one right now, so you don't have any room to talk you criminals. God bless police.
Feb 16 2011 5:31AM
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JamesR
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fuck off
Feb 16 2011 6:31AM
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attitashman
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that makes me sick
did anyone notice the girl walking by as the shots were fired?
she didnt miss a single step
Feb 16 2011 7:06AM
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ORDEAL
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Yeah. That was a little fucked
Feb 16 2011 8:06AM
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Static
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except that one step while the shots were going off
Feb 16 2011 8:09AM
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theline
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reading this pissed me off so much.
what's wrong with this country?
Feb 16 2011 10:23AM
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Cthulhu
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its things like this that makes me think agoraphobics have the right idea
Feb 16 2011 10:28AM
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yojimbo
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isn't that why people become cops? so they can murder fools and not get in trouble for it? fuck the police.
Feb 16 2011 11:05AM
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IRockLizzys
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You ask us a geography question then say that Idaho is on the West Coast? What ocean does Idaho border?
Feb 16 2011 11:22AM
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PASKIINGSUCKS
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and profit. paid leave must kick ass. Beat up petite young woman, get paid vacation......doesn't get much more awesome than that.

It really is pathetic to see that two grown men with training can't subdue a young woman with less force than that. For the record I'm referencing the video of the cop slamming that chick into the wall then throwing her down by her hair. Pulling hair really?? If that's not a straight up bitch move I don't know what is.
Feb 16 2011 11:24AM
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zakaroo
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The SPD usually are nice guys, but there are the select few who are power hungry, stupid, arrogant, and racist. They give the SPD a bad name. Also those bike cops are assholes
Feb 16 2011 11:28AM
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bakedpow
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I call them bikes on cops because i have no respect for them what so ever.
Feb 16 2011 11:29AM
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Style+eeze
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You just convinced me you're the least educated person on NS. I actually found your post entertaining. It wasn't offensive to me at all because you're the one with "absolutely no brain."

Why is Washington consistently among the highest states for a National Merit Scholarship cut-off? Any retard should know where the Strait of Gibraltar is and why it's important if they've ever given even partial attention to their world history class. That's not a legitimate case of "west coast being dumb," just the people you associate with in Idaho are dumb.

Also, where were you in Idaho? Come to a civilized city like Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, or LA and tell me the same.

You are retarded.
Feb 16 2011 11:42AM
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TOK
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the cops that rolled up on the bikes were dope. the first one did a sick rear tire slide.
Feb 16 2011 11:43AM
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Arabian.
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Feb 16 2011 11:46AM
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You-Japanese-dog
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yeeea montana #9
Feb 16 2011 12:03PM
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GayWolf420
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It could be also that in his middle school and highschool years, the girls would all pick on him and many other students would so that leaves him power hungry and seeking vengence.
Feb 16 2011 12:09PM
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PASKIINGSUCKS
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I'm not making assumptions on why he's an overbearing prick, just stating from the video you can clearly tell he is. I mean in his defense she did kick off her shoe in his direction lol.
Feb 16 2011 12:13PM
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GayWolf420
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Eh atleast they use force whether its in the right or wrong way unlike finnish police.
Feb 16 2011 12:15PM
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fujarome
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better to use force and stay safe than to not do anything and end up dead.
Feb 16 2011 12:18PM
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bakedpow
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Well if you say it like that...
Feb 16 2011 12:19PM
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NW_Rider
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I agree, and I don't hate the police by any means. What I do despise is the way the SPD has handled themselves over the past year. I still cannot figure out why they didn't hire an outsider to be promoted to police chief instead of promoting someone internally (Diaz) and making things look like business as usual. They withheld evidence of this shooting for months and released only small portions at a time. They are just going over the top protecting their own kind, and I understand that in many cases, but this case there is no way. I can't see how they can justify shielding someone for murder. Then you have the DA Dan Satterburg who will not even bring charges forward. I'm personally just disgusted and if you go through the comments section of that Seattle Times article and click the highest rated tab, you will see that a majority of the people in the region are too.
Feb 16 2011 12:23PM
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NW_Rider
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I guess carrying a legal and closed pocket knife in Seattle in broad daylight while being deaf is a crime punishable by death. Be careful how you walk around with your cell phone, especially if you have a bluetooth device and are mid convo with someone, if Ian Birk is on the beat you may be shot. 4 times. in 2 seconds.
Feb 16 2011 12:26PM
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PON3
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shit is just messed up
Feb 16 2011 12:51PM
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PetriDish
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You're a fucking cunt, as seen from pretty much every single post of yours on this site.

I for one don't believe that someone who goes to an academy for awhile somehow gains the right to hurt or kill someone on a whim.
Feb 16 2011 12:55PM
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fujarome
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I wasn't directly referring to that video but rather the general philosophy of danger on the whole.

That whole situation is fucked. The only bit of leniency I will give the cop is that he probably had no way of knowing the guy was deaf...but nonetheless...shooting anybody should be an absolute last resort for any cop. Cops can and should be held accountable, but the real problem is, as you rightly pointed out in the op, the DA and city courts rarely want to or try to do anything. All it takes is 1 person with power to say "this isn't right, we have to do something" and the entire situation changes.

However stupid it is...hindsight is 20/20. We now know the man was deaf, and the knife was legal and folded. But did he know that immediately? I still think the cop is a scumbag for shooting him, but look at the info the way he had it, when he had it. In this case...yea, he's still a fuck up.
Feb 16 2011 1:03PM
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PASKIINGSUCKS
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Shoot to kill and they can't stand for trial against you. Sad but true. Why else would he put four in a guy with a knife. You'd think one or two would stop the guy right??? messed up shit he put four in that guy. To be fair though you can't really see anything, honestly that guy could have charged the cop with the knife and there is no way to tell from that video.
Feb 16 2011 1:07PM
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californiagrown
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hey i have an idea: dont look like a sketchy motherfucker, dont break the law, and dont act suspicious. If you do all these things cops tend to leave you alone.

all those people in the videos either looked sketchy, or disrespected the cops. talk shit get hit is the case with some cops...the bad ones.

and dont worry, the cop who killed the guy is on desk duty forever.
Feb 16 2011 1:26PM
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PJS.
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the man had a mental illness. do your research, and he both wasn't breaking the law, wasn't acting suspicious and by the bystanders testimony wasn't threatening.
Feb 16 2011 1:29PM
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