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I'd like to ask u a question.

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moe
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Just say, in 1 month, some country invaded your country. you were born in that country, lived there your whole life, had a house, and a dog.

Now Just say your army was not capable of keeping the outside force out.

Woulndt you do anything to protect your house and dog? would you not stand up to an invading force?

Then how would you feel if you knew that people for other countries were calling you a 'bastard', 'fucker, 'homo', because you defend your OWN country IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY!

You would probably understand why poeple would call you this if u attacked another country, but defend your own?

I hope everyone who reads this actually thinks for 1/2 a second next time they call an iraqi a fucker who deserves to die, or that they had it comming.

I mean honsetly, it is their country, what do you expect them to do? They didnt attack you!

I needed to say that.


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Jun 26 2004 9:24PM
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and fuck the american police too right
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Jun 26 2004 9:26PM
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asac
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some people stereo type the iraqis, but most of the time people are assuming that other people will know they are talking about the terrorists.





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the one that ends in 'IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY' is a question.


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Jun 26 2004 9:26PM
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HEY! That was several questions! I thought I was only going to be asked one!

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Jun 26 2004 9:28PM
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lineskier10
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if the invading army was doing me a favor by getting rid of an oppressive dictator, and then attempting to set up a democratic government that would improve the lives of everyone in the country, no i wouldnt fight at all, i would let the invading army do something for me that i had wanted for a long time
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Jun 26 2004 9:29PM
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moe
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asac, you say 'terrorists' because they are working in an organized force to protect their country. Last time i check that was called an army. Does that make it ok to call americans terrorists?


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Jun 26 2004 9:30PM
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twix_182
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yo asac, how u do that thing to ur icon. sorry for ruining the mood




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Jun 26 2004 9:32PM
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My answer to your question is, Yes.
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Jun 26 2004 9:34PM
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Apple
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no, your twisting things in your head. You can not call the american army a bunch of terrorists. a terrorist is someone whos only intention is spreading terror to acheive their means. The do not focus their assults on military personal of another country, but atack the men, women and children of the country to get their message across. The american army does not slaughter thousands of helpless civilians. Terrorists do.

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Jun 26 2004 9:39PM
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moe
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Mabey you should pick up a history book and check out some of the things the american army has done.


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Jun 26 2004 9:42PM
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Apple
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we arnt talking about the american army of the past, we are talking about the american army right now in iraq... unless i missunderstood somthing.

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Jun 26 2004 9:45PM
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lineskier10
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PLEASE TELL ME HOW THEY ARE PROTECTING THEIR COUNTRY MOE. Iraq has already been taken over, and when the actual battles for iraq occured maybe they should have fought to protect their country, but by ridding iraq of saddam hussein we are doing the general population of iraq a huge service, and there is no arguing that, the only real thing that resistance fighters are doing now is slowing down our progress in setting up a stable democratic government, and they arent fighting to defend their homes, because if they were they wouldnt be fighting, because we have already taken over all of iraq and they have 0 chance of taking iraq back from us, thankfully because we have a president who is going to do the right thing, we are staying in iraq, and losing soldiers, to set up a stable democratic government, which will benefit iraq immensely, maybe you wanted us to leave after we killed saddam, but due to the nature of the islamic world, nothing but a dictatorship would have been established without our help, america is in iraq now to rebuild and help stabilize iraq, and prepare the country for a democratic government, and hopefully that will happen soon, because i sure as hell dont want us to be their any longer, but we have to do the right thing and help the iraqi people, the small percentage of iraqis that are still fighting are just doing so because their muslims clerics are commanding them to do so, they are trapped in the idiocy of islamic extremism and they are commanded to fight and will do so to the death because their muslim leaders hate america, this has nothing to do with defending their homes, and if it does the iraqis who are fighting to defend their homes are severely mistaken, but thanks to extremists were always going to have the small extremist percentage of the population that will continously fight america, even if it doesnt do their country any good, because their leaders command them to fight america, thanks to the wonders of islam this is always going to occur, so dont give us bullshit about iraqis defending their homes
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Jun 26 2004 9:45PM
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hazel_32
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u make some good points....but i think you just confusing youself


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Jun 26 2004 9:46PM
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lineskier10
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oh for your other post, yes the american army has committed atrocities moe, but 99% of the time the american army does what it is supposed to be doing, yes theirs the one percent of crazy motherfuckers in the army that belong in an insane asylum that will commit attrocities like the mei lai massacre (sp.), but that is true with all of society, and sadly the army screening cant keep all the nut cases out, but to say that a the american army, which has a few cases of attrocities that are extremely uncommon, is anything like a terrorist organization, whose main focus is to kill innocents and create havoc, is insane
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Jun 26 2004 9:49PM
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moe
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Ok, i dont wanna get into a huge argument about what the current situation of the war is, or what is best for the civilians, but i am saying, stop calling iraqis 'fuckers' and shit, or say they deserve to die. 10000$ says you would so the same if you were in their situation, so think before you speak.


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Jun 26 2004 9:59PM
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lineskier10
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im jewish so im smart enough to not be controlled by an extremist leader who commands me to fight, and i would do what is best for my country, which would be not to fight and impede the progress of democracy, also if the an army was getting rid of an oprressive dictator that i hated id be damn happy to help them
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Jun 26 2004 10:03PM
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coolcat410
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Yeah you both make good agruments but you both also have to agree that the iraqs are a bunch of fuckers.
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Jun 26 2004 10:03PM
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Swirly999
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however lineskier10 the people that youi are talking about liked saddam so they are fighting for a cause that is just as worthy in their mind as anything. They are fighting for there homes and dogs becuase if a democratic government is set up then everything they believed in and wanted in THIER own country is gone.
Jun 26 2004 10:06PM
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Irotate360
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if bush tried to kill half of iowa by 'testing' out some nuclear weapons then i would welcome say russia invading and trying to help out. same thing with iraq and sadaam



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Jun 26 2004 10:09PM
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Apple
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No i cant say that i would do the same thing. I think that you are pissed cause people are sterotyping. I have no problem wsith someone calling an iraq terrorist a fucker, cause quite frankly, in my opinion he or she is. You have to keep inmind that people are refering to the terrorist and not the avarage iraq citizen.

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Jun 26 2004 10:09PM
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lineskier10
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im pretty sure most of the resistance now are extremists, and there arent many saddam loyalists left at all, the leader of the biggest resistance group isnt a saddam loyalist at all, hes more connected to al qaeda, too bad i forget his name, but yeah i agree with you the few saddam loyalists have a good reason to fight in their minds, but i doubt there are many left
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Jun 26 2004 10:22PM
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P-JO
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meh, you don't have to like any country just because you originated/ were born there.




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Jun 26 2004 10:31PM
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Crow
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Am i supposed to answer all of your questions or just a selected 1 or 2


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Jun 26 2004 10:34PM
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bitchassphatz
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have you forgotten all the horrible shit saddam was doing to his OWN people. at worst, we are mantaining the same death rate as saddam was, except we're killing the bad guys, not the innocent people who speak up against the bad shit that's going on in their country. All of you people owe the united states, now everyone hates us and no one hates the other countries. we may be the bully or whatever but at least we're doing the RIGHT THING! and we're not going to leave iraq until it is completed.


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Jun 26 2004 10:35PM
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SchweitzerSki
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you have to remember that they are killing their own people. the saddam loyalists don't want americans to set up a government so they are using suicide bombs to kill more of their own innocent people than americans are. and if the price of freedon here in america is too high then get out and go to france or something and eat your damn french fries. i'll just stay in america and eat my freedom fries thank you because i love america and i thank all the soldiers who go out there every day and stuff. Go America
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Jun 26 2004 10:49PM
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Ski-hobo
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I would say, hyy, thanks for removing that asshole of a leader. And thanks for giving us food, and medicine, and building stuff. Thanks for being generally kind with us. sorry for the bad apples that are making your job harder
Jun 26 2004 10:51PM
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moe
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OK no matter what saddam did, there is still NO reason for a country to invade another, then MAKE FUN of the people they are invading. They were born in this area, braught up by these values, just because you like your way of living does not mean you have to force it on others. remeber then. saddam was a fucked up guy, but saying anyone who fights for their country a fucker is defenitely unjustified.


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Jun 26 2004 11:01PM
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Ski-hobo
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there are absoluley NO reasons to invade another country??
Jun 26 2004 11:03PM
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lineskier10
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ya i would consider what he was doing a very good reason to invade the country, the un has done it many times, and just because we are acting alone in this we get a ton of shit
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Jun 26 2004 11:18PM
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J.D.
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He said invade and then refer to the invaded population as 'fuckers' (making fun of them) which is pretty much the purpose of this post.

Lineskier10, sorry to snap you out of your dream world where everyone you don't like dies, but Saddam hasn't been killed by anyone. I assume you didn't mean to say that part.

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Jun 26 2004 11:35PM
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SchweitzerSki
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did you watch footage of people from other countries when the world trade towers were attacked? because if you did you would have seen people in iraq and afghanistan and saudi arabia and all of those other countries dancing in the streets saying 'bring down america'. civilians just like you and me singing and dancing and celebrating america's fall. maybe you should watch that and see the iraqis firing guns into the sky saying fuck america, among other things, into the cameras. maybe that's what provokes americans to call iraqi's fuckers
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Jun 26 2004 11:35PM
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moe
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so doing the same is ok? if you want force your way of life on another country, dont you think you should avoid making fun of them?

and remember, this war wasnt started to 'free' or 'save' the iraqi poeple. It was everything but selfless, america when to war to stop 'weapons of mass destruction' they never said shit about freeing iraqis when the STARTED the war, so dont gimme that freedom bullshit, its an esacpe.


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Jun 26 2004 11:41PM
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SchweitzerSki
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i personally think america is wasting time over there. maybe we should use our resources to strengthen the education system here and to fight the obesity problems and gang problems. we could be using the billions of dollars we used on the war to stengthen homeland security and make america safer. so when the taliban or al qaeda does try to hit us again, we can stop them before they do anything. i blame everything on that stupid dubya
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Jun 26 2004 11:54PM
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i dont know what your talking about moe, i mean the whole invading other countries and war in general just makes so much sense


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Jun 27 2004 1:42AM
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IrishDrink87
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i didnt read the other posts, so sorry if im repeating someone elses comment.

personally, i dont classify all jawas as terrorists. just the actual terrorists. my best friend is a sand keeper. so its all gravy





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Jun 27 2004 2:00AM
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the_friesz
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My question for you is... Which of your several questions hols the most weight for what you're trying to put across to us? Some of you may know that I'm a Marine, I've been to Iraq, and soon I'll be their again. I've personally experienced the Iraqi populous first hand. I don't have to say it twice, but I actually think this'll be the 12th time I've said it. The general population is doing their best to help the reconstruction of Iraq, not from what we did during the war, but what Saddam did during his dictatorship. So when I see someone calling an Iraqi a fucker for killing his own people and their dogs, or shooting at U.S. and coalition troops who are not there as an occupation force but as peacekeepers, well I automattically know what they're referring too. Maybe some of the people on here believe ALL Iraqis are fuckers, and that's their opinon you can't change that. Personally I don't call those that kill their own people and fire upon peacekeepers ans Iraqis, and make a clear distinction by referring to them as insurgents, they don't have a nationality because of what they're doing to a country they might of might not have been born in. Frankly they deserve to die, and when I get back I'm going to do my best to rid the area of the most insurgents I can, believe me I did my best last time... Fuckers...
Jun 27 2004 2:36AM
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rebel
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Moe, living in such a prodominant society as it is, I would have thought that by now you would have learned that society is fucking ignorant. I went to the same high school as you, and I was made fun of for the music I listened to (which is actually 'cool' now), but if these people can't accept others just because they have a different culture, you expec them to understand where you're coming form???? It's a lost cause my friend. I'm not saying I disagree with you, I'm just saying it's a lost cause.

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Jun 27 2004 2:43AM
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Lord_Piot
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good questions moe.

more people in america should be asking themselves these questions.
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Jun 27 2004 2:47AM
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huh? moe are you a camel jockey




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Jun 27 2004 4:08AM
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rightcoastskier
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lineskier got it with his first post.. my view exactly

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Jun 27 2004 7:21AM
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Ahmets_Brother
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all armies have done bad things but i agree with linskier10s first post...i wouldnt mind if they were settin up a democratic government and shit. and when yousay the amaerican army has done bad things, all armies have done bad things.....the russians invaded my dads homeland and killed people and sent them to siberia just to get land like every country has done for land basicallly....the english and americans killed natives for land....the japs did nasty things to the chinese during ww2


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Jun 27 2004 9:05AM
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beer.
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see fahrenheit 9/11, if you still support this war after seeing that there is something wrong with you.

also, our american army will 'liberate' iraq and place it into the waiting arms of western capitalism and big business. ask yourself this: will there be one major industry in Iraq that isnt backed by western investors, or completely owned by them when this is all over?


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Jun 27 2004 9:15AM
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r_witt
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its one thing for an army in a country to band together and fight off an invading force, that shows unity and that the country wants the force out

when small groups kidnap civilians and behead them, thats terrorism. the majority of iraqis are harmless and are just glad saddam is gone, but they want to be on their own.
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Jun 27 2004 9:33AM
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SmoKinSkier
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One many of the terrorists fighting in IRaq have moved in from afghanastan, syria and numerous places, al qaudia is settin up their to resist the us so it looks like its just iraqs fighting and you dumb fucks eat that shit up.

Second the adminstration did cite the acts of genocide, and torture and oppression of his own ppl, and abuse of the oil for food program( Which the benefactors were france and germany who convientiently voted no on the security council) SO I WILL GIVE YOU THAT FREEDOM BULLSHIT!!

And i have seen fahrenheit 9/11 and it was an overated poorly made second rate documentary. I applaud moore though he proved you can make an entire movie and show only one side of the story the entire time! Congrats liberlas he is your savior!




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Jun 27 2004 10:16AM
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General_Shredgnar
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FIrst off, Moe is really right. But terrorists are not only fighting for there homes, but some of them are fighting under their religion. Like, some beleifs say that if you die attacking the invaders or w/e, you will live on eternally with all the luxeries that could be applied. Also, here is a good motto for police
When you want to apply for the police, your application is sent to a college where you will go to become a po po.

Power-trip university.

Most cops become cops because they lead a weak life, and find themselves looked down upon. As a cop, they have power, and are able to shoot at shit and not get arrested, and make people do whatever they want. There you go.
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Jun 27 2004 11:26AM
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lineskier10
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im pretty sure the primary goal of the war was to remove saddam, but im not positive
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Jun 27 2004 1:38PM
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J.D.
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^Yep, the goal never changed. The reasons for supporting that goal did, but not the goal itself.

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Jun 27 2004 1:41PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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FARENHEIT 9/11 IS BULLSHIT...ITS JUST SOME GAY ASS LIBERALS WAY OF THINKING OF IT those fuckin liberals!!!!

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they should just hire some fine ass slutty bitch at president, then send her to the middle east and fuck all the terrorists to make them happy and everything will end as long as she keeps fucken them- lateralis
Jun 27 2004 9:36PM
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Not an Iraqi...a muslim extreamist...nothing wrong with Iraqi's













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Jun 27 2004 9:37PM
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i say fuck em
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