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JIBpsy^^
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Today I threw my first flip which was a frontflip but i landed switch (BTW stomped first ever flip) So my questin is what would a frontflip 180 be?

Feb 12 2011 7:53PM
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DGski
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... front flip 180 i think, theres not really a name for it
Feb 12 2011 7:58PM
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Jimmy.
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misty
Feb 12 2011 7:59PM
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monkatizer
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misty or misty 540, when doing any invert with a spin the flip always adds on 360 to what ever spin, so u did a frontflip: 360 + 180= misty 540

this formula only works on inverts not corks or bios or flats u just count rotation on those
Feb 12 2011 8:04PM
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Jimmy.
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and the difference is...
Feb 12 2011 8:09PM
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manabadman
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possibly overflip. a bit "flippier" than misty-correct me if im wrong. i dont know if thats a bit of a redundant term now though, as you dont really hear it thrown around too often. There's quite a big overlap with naming some inverts/spins so i guess you could just call it misty. But who knows maybe your first flip was a perfectly steezy misty? props whichever is the case man!
Feb 12 2011 8:29PM
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jh15111
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No..... only if he went off axis would it work like this... and only if he actually rotated 540 degrees while flipping... he did a brandy... a front flip with a single 180 most likely... you don't call a back full a d spin 720 do you?
Feb 12 2011 8:29PM
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JIBpsy^^
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So which is it?  Brandy or misty?   anyway I was shitting bricks coming up to the jump but the acctual flip was a piece of cake.

Feb 12 2011 8:34PM
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DGski
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its kind of something you have to see to tell what it was. if it was more fronflip then 180 it was frontflip 180, if its more to the side its misty, can you get a video?
Feb 12 2011 8:42PM
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monkatizer
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its not possible to not go off axis while doing a flip. no one calls it a back full or front 180. he most likley did a misty 5 or possibly an underflip. whenever u go inverted it counts as 360 in park, ur talking about aerials.

can i get some backup here?
Feb 12 2011 9:26PM
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JIBpsy^^
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We didnt video tape cuz i was shitting bricks so i just put my ipod in on the lift cleared my head then didnt een stop at top of jump but it was more frontflippy i think. I had so much adrenaline my memory of it is spotty i remeber hucking seeing one frame of the jump upside down then landing switch and yelling " HEEELS YEA I FUCKING DID IT HELLS YEA YOU SEE THAT BRO HELLLLLSSSS YEA"
Feb 12 2011 10:02PM
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jh15111
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1st off axis and inverted are two totally different things all though if you are off axis you can be inverted, off axis means that your spin is tilted off of your normal spin... if you do a back full you are still spinning on axis while flipping.... a backflip is not a backflip 360 just because you are in park and went inverted... inverted means that your head is closer to the ground than any other part of your body.

2nd just because you're in the park doesn't mean you can't do "ariel" manuvers any trick you do in the air would technically be considered an ariel manuver unless of course you are refering to an ariel which is a roundoff like trick.

3rd i can do both a brandy (front flip 180) and a misty 540 ( 540 degree spin while perpendicular to the ground and parallel to the lip of the jump) and i can tell you from personal experience that they are two very different tricks

lastly to the kid who created the thread if you didn't feel like you set a 540 rotation you probably didn't misty. you probably did what most kids do on their first lincoln attempts and didn't spot properly causing you to set a mild spin in your trick causing you to end up landing switch and doing a 180 in the middle of your flip... it also could have been a natural reaction to doing a flip to to start to twist to try and get out from being upside that caused you to spin 180.
Feb 13 2011 12:12AM
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NickCage
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Inverts definitely don't count as 3. Or else people would be stomping dub 2340s
Feb 13 2011 2:50AM
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futurespin
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generally a front flip 180 is called a misty 5. and generally (to whoever mentioned this above) a back full is called a dspin 7. And yes an invert adds a 360 to the trick (a cork does not).

Don't get overally technical
Feb 13 2011 3:38AM
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LC.
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Wow, I feel old now. It's called a Barani.
Feb 13 2011 4:11AM
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PetriDish
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Ding ding ding.

Lot of examples by Shane McConkey in Ski Movie 2.

BUT, I think the OP throws a front similar to myself, as I sometimes land 90/270 degrees spun on a front. It annoys the hell out of me, but it seems I drop my right shoulder unwillingly too much.
Feb 13 2011 4:24AM
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IIsmiittersII
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When doing a misty 540 you spin a 540 with a front flip not a 180
Feb 13 2011 11:16AM
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k-fred
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you do count the flip in the flatspin...flatspin 180 doesn't exist

Feb 13 2011 11:20AM
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tall_pants
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misty?
Feb 13 2011 2:31PM
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monkatizer
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yes this is what i was trying to say!
Feb 13 2011 2:35PM
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monkatizer
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not true u do a frontflip with a 180 at the same time its called a misty five. because fronty counts for 360+180 that u spun= misty fivefourty
Feb 13 2011 2:38PM
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JIBpsy^^
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I am just really confused now. I definitley did not feel like I set for a misty i just dropped my left shoulder more than my right and landed switch If i matters the second time i threw it and wasnt concentrated as much so i underroatated and landed on my side would that change anything?
Feb 13 2011 11:45PM
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p-fo
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ITS CALLED A BRANNY.

and congratulations
Feb 13 2011 11:58PM
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assface
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haha i did the same thing yesterday with a flat/back 5. i hucked it and somehow landed perfectly switch. then washed out. it was still sick though cause i thought i was gonna eat shit
Feb 14 2011 12:05AM
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array.
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go away we have esblished this already, and your wrong.  Misty five is a of axis "frontflip" with a 180.  A frontflip with a 540 is a misty 9
Feb 14 2011 12:11AM
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uosdwiSrjewoH
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HEY, i just landed my first inverted trick today as well (rodeo 5, quite happy)

ps, backflips are frightening
Feb 14 2011 12:39AM
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jh15111
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wowwwwwww.... how are people this unaware of what is going on when people do tricks with the amount of existing slow motion footage out there...

Here is a random video of some guy doing a misty 9


watch carefully... he spins 90 degrees and a half a flip to get into his off axis position that he is spinning in... and then from that point you can clearly see 720 degrees of rotation, two full spins, at that same angle before finishing the last half of the flip and the final 90 degrees to end up backwards.

Now i see where you're coming from with a flip equals a 360 when it comes to rodeos and flatspins... but this flip only counts as 360 degrees of rotation because you are doing it at an angle which makes it so your flip is going around the same axis you spin around( a rodeo the flip is similar to a sideways backflip and a flat spin the flip is closer to a lincoln with your back flat against the ground)

so guess what going inverted does not equal an extra 360 degrees of rotation so here's a little key

tricks flips count as extra spins in- flat spin, rodeo

tricks they don't count as extra spins in(because these tricks simply cause you to go inverted as a result of the off axis rotation rather than truly having a flip in them)- misty, d spin, cork, back full, branny, flat360/whackflip( if you watch carefully this trick greatly varies from a standard flat 5 and you can clearly see 360 degrees of standard rotation in it... if the 360 degrees aren't there they are just doing an egg roll or in other words a slightly tilted backflip) any flip trick with a spin in which the axis of rotation does not stray from a standard 360 type spin combined with a standard backflip type flip.

underflips and tricks like this are grey area because there is such variation on how they are thrown, but typically according to how i've learned these tricks they are 90 degree rotation a flip and then 90 degree rotation

so yeaaaaaa that's that
Feb 14 2011 12:43AM
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EthanT
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misty 5 is a 540 spin wit a flip, the flip is not an extra 3 in the rotation
Feb 25 2011 5:47AM
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