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Norred
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charles darwin was a naturalist. he wrote the organ of the species. it was very long people got upset about it and had trials to see if it was really true. he sort of said god's days were not just 24 hours but without watches. who knew anyhow? i dont get it.


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Jun 25 2004 4:20PM
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good guy
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Jun 25 2004 5:37PM
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alpinecowboy84
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um, what exactly don't you get?


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Jun 25 2004 5:40PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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yeah... the organ of the species... was that about the musical insturment,perhaps a book on bach? or some part of the physical anatomy?















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Jun 25 2004 6:15PM
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It's like that inherit the wind play when they bring it up. It's how people picture the length of time, experts say that God made the earth like at 11,000 B.C. which is incorrect in Science.

So they say that God's days in which he made the earth are they longer then 24 hours just because there is no set time. So could the first day that he began to make the Earth and stuff be millions of our days? I dunno i kind of get it but then again it doesnt makes sense.

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^def incorrect in science

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Jun 25 2004 6:54PM
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GhostfaceKillah
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god made the earth in 7 days or something like that... but he made day and night on the 3rd day (i think)... so there was no possible way to measure the length of the 1st 2 days...
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you know whats funny, how the mayan calendar ends in 2012??




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Jun 25 2004 7:10PM
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eton
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some christians say that it was at 11000 bc but only the ones that cant accept scientific dating, most say that it was actually much farther back, the same date as evolutionists believe it was created. The only difference is that they believe life came around differentley
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Jun 25 2004 7:28PM
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joey taht earth scince really payed off.........stay off my fuckin im name bitch



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Jun 25 2004 7:29PM
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KillerMonkey
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^so the 1st and 2nd days could've been really long and it took him a really long time to do watever he did on the first and second days.




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Jun 25 2004 8:10PM
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JustinJamesTurner
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ancient civilizations

lumerians - walked the earth over 800,000 years ago

the people of Mu - inhabited the world 250,000 years ago until about 12,000 - 10,000 BC when Mu and Atlantis crashed into the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean

Mayans - Ancient civ around 1000 BC to today 1697 when the Spaniards defeated the ttza of tayasal and the last independant Maya kingdom side note here the end of the world isnt actually 2012 it doesnt say the end of the world on there wheel of time it says that in 2012-2013 the earth will start wobbling and the wobble will accelerate and this in turn will start a new evolution of our species as our current dimension unfolds and we are brought into the 5th dimension where there are more civilized races waiting for us, and only those who recognize the changes within will evolve and survive this great earthly cataclysm.

anyways fools


this earth has been pinned arout 4.6 billion years or something now according to geologists and prolly older, I wouldnt worry about dying to much either, are you going to be able to care that your dead when your well dead, have to wait and see.

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Jun 25 2004 8:28PM
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mackinnon
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this is not very related, but charles darwin's great grandson goes to my school and is one of the biggest drug dealers in our town...i find it hilarious, obviously he didn't get his intelligence from the father's side...


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Jun 25 2004 10:08PM
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7 days to create the Earth, & seperate Kindom of Animals, and 7 Continents in the world



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Jun 25 2004 10:26PM
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Irotate360
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^^holy shit dude, thats some crazy shit



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Jun 25 2004 10:28PM
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.scott.
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i have some serious issues with darwin's ideas. theoretically, evolution seems plausable, except for the fact that it is based upon chance and random change resulting in increased organization. the only way for the changes of evolution to occur is through random genetic mutation over huge amounts of time, as he proposed. but random mutation in nature never leads to enhancements in a species ability to survive, which would promote natural selection, in fact quite the opposite is true. this kind of mutation leads to freakish, and mutated species, much like birth defects and developmental malfunctions. basic laws of physics say that disorganization will ensue from this kind of situation in nature. entropy naturally increases. randomimity leads to chaos. darwin's theories were illogical. and don't even get me started with the big bang thoery. the problem is scientists often become infatuated with the excitement that accompanies discovery. I personally accredit this to some of the biggest mistakes in the scientific community. anyways, this is just my humble opinion. thanks for listening to it, if you did.

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Jun 26 2004 5:10AM
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theBOSS.
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^ but you forget just how many genetic mutations there are in the animal and plant world every day. Millions of new species (animal and plant)are born everyday with genetic mutations, so even if only 1 out of 100000000000 are positive, it is still enough to significantly change a species over time.
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Jun 26 2004 9:08AM
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theBOSS.
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One more thing, if you look at how long you've been alive, it is NOTHING compared to how many millions of years are needed to significanty evolve a species. Even the amount of time humans have existed is nothing, so dont be suprised that nothing has happened overnight
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Jun 26 2004 9:12AM
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survival of the fittest...



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Jun 26 2004 9:23AM
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DO a little research, my friend. Science itself makes evolution impossible. I will post a little more info in a couple days when I get home, I'm at a friends for the weekend and don't feel like typing a ton.
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Jun 26 2004 10:12AM
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Irotate360
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looks like earth science payed off for ross too



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Jun 26 2004 10:15AM
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hellmut
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seeing that the entire scientific communitty seems to be in accrod with darwin, I will also agree.
Jun 26 2004 10:20AM
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bigJ
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Darwin took back everything he every said regarding evolution one his death bed because he knew he was wrong.










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Jun 26 2004 10:45AM
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LittleDevil720
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the thing i dont get about theorists, is how they can only explain up to the beggining...most of them dont explain how the hell that shit was made before things started to evolve, and so on
Jun 26 2004 10:53AM
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eton
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the problem with evlolution is while small minute changes take place in animals every day, simaltanious evlolution is much harder. To get a complex system to form, there are many tiny little chemical reactions and subsystems that must form. Darwin proposes survival of the fittest, but unless the entire system, such as the eye were to develop the other parts would have no purpose. If one single element developed with out the many other protiens and light sensors needed, it would die out becuase it would be a function that would have on superior function or purpose. A great book on evolution is Darwins black box...if anyone likes to read.
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Jun 26 2004 10:39PM
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Jun 26 2004 10:51PM
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alpinecowboy84
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mutations are random but you cannot assume that random mutations lead only to mutations that are not useful, saying that that is illogical is absurd. random equals random - randomness isn't perpetuated by any destination, such as chaos. you clearly haven't read up enough on physical anthropology to be suggesting such things. random = random. nothing is predetermined or heading in any suggested direction, if it was it wouldn't be random. you must realize that every time a species has seperated from its original species (in combination with geographical seperation) there has been a genetic mutation (or a gene that has developed abnormally, which still qualifies as a mutation). the thumb = mutation. the whisker = mutation. the trigger fish fin = mutation.

i don't know if charles darwin took back any of his theories, that sounds like complete bullshit to me, but even if he did he didn't take them back because he knew he was wrong, he did in fact later in life realize that his discoveries led him to denounce personally any possibility of a creator.

i suggest that any of you who have doubts about the genius of charles darwin and alfred russel wallace, go to your nearest college bookstore and buy yourself a textbook, because you clearly don't see the whole picture.


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Jun 26 2004 11:35PM
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Anewmorning, I was thinking the exact same thing when i read that...

Anyways, hold on, I'll see if I can find the relevant thread with all the insanely awesome posts by gravteck and phattim.

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Jun 26 2004 11:37PM
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sconnyFC
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and here i am thinking he wrote 'The Origin of Species,' huh.






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Jun 28 2004 6:19AM
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eton
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alpinecowboy: micro evolution does happen and is a fact that exists for sure, eg, humming birds addapting in different areas of the world to be able to eat from a specific plant, but while its easy enough to say that a whisker or fin is an addaptation, a mutaion that was random, and occurred, the speciece found that it was benificial and natural selection took place. But what truely needs to be looked at is how that change actually takes place, what chemical or cellular imbalance, or imbalance in the cell or cellular structure must take place for that to occur. Something simple suck as a wisker or fin could have a potential plan layed out of how it could have evolved in a darwinian manner, but something more complex that is ireducibly complex such as a flagelum or cillia is virtually imposible to explain in a darwinian manner unless a person has an over active imagination. Even out of thousands of papers writen on cillia and flagelum in the last 10 years, only 2 or 3 have even suggested that it could have formed through a darwinian evolution. The bottom line is that the scientific comunity hasnt eventried to explain it beacause it is not logical.
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Jun 28 2004 5:33PM
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.scott.
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what I was trying to exlain in a few words, because I'm too lazy, was that the ramdomimity of genetic mutation leads to only small, and degenerative changes in an organisms physiology. It's not one gene in DNA mutates, like one cytosine molecule is replaced by a guanine molecule, and now all of a sudden that animal will grow with opposable thumbs. Too many changes would all have to happen together and work in conjunction to create the more complex systems in a species physiology. It just won't happen. Random mutation has only ever led to disorganization. It always has, and always will. And really only a portion of the scientific community agrees with evolutionist theory and the others believe it is a crock of shit. Some of the most brilliant minds in history have opposed Darwin's ideas.

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Jun 30 2004 10:17PM
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theBOSS.
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I'd like to hear some other theories you guys have, because as of now, besides creationism or whatever, I havent heard anything else put forward. If you dont believe in the evolutionary theory, then at least put forward what you do think
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Jun 30 2004 11:20PM
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people, you cant argue with science



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Jun 30 2004 11:25PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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we dont need to. science argues with itself.















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Jul 1 2004 12:22AM
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Phat_Jigga
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Considering evolutionary theory is taught in most schools, I would wager a little more than 'some' scientists believe it....

BTW, Randomness will not always lead to more chaos in the sense as you use it. The fact that only the strong will reproduce is the limiting factor that will reoganize.


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Jul 1 2004 2:50AM
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alpinecowboy84
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eton i do agree there are aspects of science that cannot explain. but if 99% of something can be explained by science and 1% cannot i don't thats a justifiable means of arguing that there is evidence of a creator. there are plenty of things that were inexplicable 20 years ago that are well reaserched and explainable today. science is an ongoing process and i understand that it may defy logic, but that doesn't mean an explaination isn't possible.

one must also consider the capabilities of the human mind, the universe is beyond our understanding/comprehension. our brains can only theorize to a certain extent, beyond that everything is inexplicable. there are a myriad of patterns that we haven't even noticed yet, that we unknowingly skip right over. i still stand on the idea that there is far more to argue against creationism than there is to support it. creationists find tiny questionable areas of scientific theory in order to condemn science as a whole, which is of course absurd.


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Jul 1 2004 3:41AM
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(by the way eton, its nice to see an intelligent and informed response, well written)


song of the week to download: 'let me love you down' by INOJ

Willard: 'How many people had I already killed? There was those six that I know about for sure. Close enough to blow their last breath in my face. But this time it was an American and an officer. That wasn't supposed to make any difference to me, but it did. Shit... charging a man with murder in this place was like handing out speeding tickets in the Indy 500. I took the mission. What the hell else was I gonna do?'
Jul 1 2004 3:42AM
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^hahaha.


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Jul 1 2004 2:39PM
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eton
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Well i cant deny the fact that creation is not an outcome that can be deffended due to the reason that it is a belief with out science to back it up. You make a good point regarding scientific findings, but from our knowledge and the lack of evidence ie: fossil records darwinism does not seem fisable. Now as you said there is an infinite amount of information that we do not know about the universe which means that there is the deffinite possibilty that there could be another method or process from which life resulted. The problem with darwinism is that he sugests that small changes can occur and as a result of natural selection the organisms with a mutation that benifits them will survive and the process will repeat resulting in the humans, and potential other organisms in the future. The only problem is that unless simultaineous evolutionary mutations take place in a cell or organism, the minor change will result in a negative or usless effect on the organism, meaning that it will die out rather than flurish. I wish that there was an easy answer but at this point science has only uncovered enough information to disprove darwinism, but not to sugest an alternate theory. Maybe as you say in future as we find out new and intriguing aspects of our universe some sence will be made of it all, but untill then speculation will continue, with regards to evolution, multiple dimentions, and parallel universes.
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Jul 1 2004 4:07PM
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.scott.
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^i concur

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Jul 1 2004 5:16PM
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stop acting so pretentious.
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