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Fahrenheit 9/11

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bigJ
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Straight out of the Wall Street Journal.

'Well, watching Mr. Moore's film meens getting your news from the media village's most famous or infamous bomb-thrower, self premoter, used-theory salesman, glib falsifier, discomfiting truth-teller, aggrieved patriot, shrewd lampooner, serial ambusher and, in his later feature lengthpolemic, Bush beater with a seething vengence.'

The artical went on to say that the movie was just a two hour series of cheap shots at Bush and little more.

So if this is your liberal god send I hope you reconsider, because all he does is take low blows and no fair shots. It is a totally one sided film, but hey I am going to be their tonight piss-ass drunk, yelling at the screen, and ruining your liberal wet dream with a fifth of Jim Beam and a love for America and Bush.










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Jun 25 2004 7:45AM
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r_witt
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you should watch bowling for columbine because that is 1) a really good movie and 2) it shows how he can make a point without bashing conservatives

you just gotta go into the movie realizing hes a filmmaker with an agenda, so obviously the movie and facts will be manipulated and biased
even though if you just start thinking about one thing in a different way, he achieved his goal
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bigJ
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I saw Bowling for Columbine and I didn't think it was that bad, but I am a stauch 2nd amendment advocate and so that aspect pissed me off instead of the conservative aspect. But I still thought it was well made and brought up intresting points. Regardless, he remains a douche.










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Jun 25 2004 8:05AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Michael Moore is pretty extreme in his views, but i think his radical stance gets people to at least think about polotics and why they back thier views. Personally, I'm going to see this movie and applaud every 5 minutes.
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Jun 25 2004 9:21AM
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wntrwill
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Moore doesn't make this movie to turn every Republican into a Democrat, he simply stirs the shit bucket in an attempt for people to look further into government than what we hear on fox news. The controversy is what keeps him going, he's just trying to get people more involved and interested.
Jun 25 2004 9:24AM
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theBOSS.
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Even bowling for columbine pissed me off, they way he exploited those poor kids who were victims just to support his own political standpoint just makes me angry, and even worse was he tried to hold k-mart responsible for selling the bullets.

k-mart sells millions of bullets a day I bet, they don't know what people will use them for, its a form of business that they do. do you think k-mart really had anything to do with the whole plot?
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Jun 25 2004 9:24AM
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teneighty_skier22
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Except for the fact that a lot of BFC was pure lies. The guy makes stuff up to make his point look better.

Not to mention Moore is getting fatter everytime I see him...what's up with that?
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Jun 25 2004 9:54AM
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alex_uk
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It's nice to see things from a perspective that mainstream media don't show us, and the governmnet doesn't want us to see.
Though, like all media, and especially in his case, there is a lot of bias, this means that you have to take what he says with a pinch of salt.

It is refreshing to see though.

If some of you are into moore-hatins..
http://www.moorewatch.com/
Think it's down now, but even when it's up it's not that good, just shows not everyone likes him.


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Jun 25 2004 9:57AM
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teneighty_skier22
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Unfortunately the mainstream media is just about as one-sided as Micheal Moore is anymore. With the exception of Fox News, they're a little better.
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Jun 25 2004 10:02AM
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alex_uk
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That's kinda my point, it's good to see both, so you can see what falls half way between the two of them.


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Jun 25 2004 10:06AM
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chip123
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HE was on The Daily Show last night and said staight out that he is not fair, he knows he is biast, as with every movie, cd, and campaign that has ever come out or taken place. The movie is a visual list of facts, his opinion is shown very well in the film but so is every directors of every film. I was not pleased with Bush these last 4 years and am not a fan of Kerry eigther, Dean was my man, but people were too scared to take a chace on him. instead they chose two losing candidates to further run this contry into the ground. Our only hope now is Nadar pulling some amazing come-from-behind victory, like mike D throwing the switch cork 10 to beat t-hall in the 03 US OPEN BIG AIR, and you know why he won, because he took a chance. we as a nation need to take a similar chance by voting in a liberal president, just to see what happends. what more do we have to lose, the respect of every other county? nope Bush lost that for us
Jun 25 2004 10:32AM
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coolcat410
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Haha i saw the trailer to this movie and it's like all picking on bush. Bush goes, 'I want everyone to help us stop all terrosists at any costs. Now watch this driver.' And he hits the golf ball, haha good times.
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Jun 25 2004 10:35AM
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Your all retared, on the Daily show he siad THERE ARE FACTS but he also brings his own politcal opian. He dosent make this shit up, he dose however give his own views on it. Dont watch his movies if you like the people that posted above and cant tell when its a fact or an opian.




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Jun 25 2004 10:50AM
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Unfortunately the mainstream media is just about as one-sided as Micheal Moore is anymore. With the exception of Fox News, they're a little better.
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Jun 25 2004 10:59AM
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Kornn101
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it got a 20 minute standing ovation at some film festival, i think the cannon film festival? thats good enuff for me to see it
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Jun 25 2004 11:02AM
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PocketRocketRipper
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^in response to that, he got that standing ovation at Cannes because the french hate Bush.

and in response to the bias of his films, all he does is cut the interviews so that his views are supported. and he's a heinous bush basher, who isn't sparking healthy partisan debate but rather he is blinding us with propaganda.

check out Stept... To Whom it May Concern drops July 4th!
Jun 25 2004 11:14AM
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PocketRocketRipper
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^^and also, the fact that the quote was from the Wall Street Journal (a liberal newspaper) says a lot

check out Stept... To Whom it May Concern drops July 4th!
Jun 25 2004 11:30AM
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strode
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so it comes out today, let us know if you go see it. maybe i'll go see it in a little bit



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Jun 25 2004 11:38AM
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i wouldnt call the journal liberal...















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Jun 25 2004 11:46AM
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SkiUnit03
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damb, there are two thearters in my town showing it and BOTH of them are fulled sold out. im gunna have to buy my tickets in adevance




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Jun 25 2004 12:34PM
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PocketRocketRipper
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^^you'd be suprised... also, it used to be the best conservative paper out there, so it's practically a greenpeace pamphlet compared to what it used to be.

check out Stept... To Whom it May Concern drops July 4th!
Jun 25 2004 12:36PM
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Ski-hobo
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It'll probibly show up on the internet soon. Then I'll see it. not gonna make that fatass richer.
Jun 25 2004 12:41PM
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bigJ
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yeah, fuck giving him money, I'm going to see 'shrek 2' tonight, wink wink










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Jun 25 2004 12:43PM
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sacha
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bigJ making a thread and dissing micheal moore makes you even more of a christian fuck-head. If you love Bush so much go marry him. Dont worry about the whole gay marriage thing since i doubt your a man.
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Jun 25 2004 12:51PM
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eton
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while micheal more is undoubtabley bias, its at least he shows the flip side of the coin. The american media is so bias on the oposite sceme of things that to listen to what they have to say you'd think america was a pure and perfect nation under god. do to free speach he should be able to say what ever he wants and i think that a bit of bush bashing is really in store after he has effectively doubled the number of terrorists in al'qaeda inaddition to killing thousands of inocent. those are hard things to just ignore. i think micheal more has sold out somewhat and likes making his money, but at least he can see bush for what he really is
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Jun 25 2004 12:54PM
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bigJ
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I'm telling you, you have some deep problems that you need to resolved. Seek help in the near future, but for now, eat a dick you retarded sack of semian fecal matter and Al Franken's semen, bitch.










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Jun 25 2004 12:55PM
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eton
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as a general statement: the one problem with bitching and swearing at people is then nobody thinks that you can think rationally and cooly without your emosions getting in the way of truth
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Jun 25 2004 1:10PM
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IHOP
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i hate moore...i hate people that bitch and bitch about everything and offer no good solutions
Jun 25 2004 1:12PM
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bigJ
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good point, Moore doesn't propose any solutions, he doesn't even mentione Kerry's name, he just wants Bush out and it can all go to hell after that as far as he is concerned










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Jun 25 2004 1:13PM
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eton
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well ill agree with that, he presents the flip side, but no solution, what really needs to happen is to have someone that can look at both and find the middle ground and then do something constructive for a change
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Jun 25 2004 1:18PM
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lineskier10
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after seeing him on the daily show i realized how much of a douchebag he really is, he thinks that any opposition to his movie is an elaborate plot of the presidents to destroy him, and he said that his commercials werent political, they were just advertisements for his movie
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Jun 25 2004 3:44PM
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bigsky_gurl
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if it means less people voting for bush, then he can bash as much as he wants to.



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Jun 25 2004 3:50PM
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chip123
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he won the international cannes award too, the French love him
Jun 25 2004 3:50PM
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J.D.
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There are some totally groudless things going on in this thread. Too many for me to even keep up with. Here are a few:
'BFC Was all lies': Despite allegations from right-wing groups who immediately set out to destroy that movie, Moore was in fact later able to discredit every accusation made about falsified information in that movie with supported evidence that was (and should still be) on his website.

'The mainstream media is as biased as m Moore, except Fox News.' What can I say, your compass is pretty much useless. Fox news is about as 'Fair and Balanced' as a group of drunken european soccer fans.

'The WSJ is a liberal paper'. HAHAHAHAHA... wow... no, I'm sorry, it's not. Apparently you've never seen a Liberal paper.

There's more, too... people need to stop with the blind rage.


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Jun 25 2004 4:06PM
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misterbinz
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^good points. Also, I read the review about the movie, and I could tell that the author of that review started thinking up all those creative ways of describing moore before he even went into the theatre. The guy went in there hating moore and hating all that he stands for, and came out hating even more. That was an absolutely terrible review, it was more of an editorial, and it didn't give much of a picture of what the movie was even like.

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Jun 25 2004 5:02PM
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misterbinz
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also, what moore is aiming at with this movie isn't to offer solutions, he's aiming at raising the awareness of people in america about what's going on in the world, so they can make more educated decisions and have a positive effect on the direction that this country goes.

'its not rape....its surprise sex. you wake up and SURPRISE you had sex with me haha' - huckster989

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Jun 25 2004 5:04PM
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i still fuckin hate moore



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Jun 25 2004 5:06PM
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eton
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well im just glad to see that he is one man that is taking a stand against the US government. While all he says may not be true, what he does is he raises awareness. As opposed to some people eating up all the bias pablem that is being fed to them by the american govt they may have some doubts, do some research, and be able to ascertain the truth. he is fighting the american govt with its own weapon....the media
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Jun 25 2004 5:44PM
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look, i havent read the whole thread, but heres what i think of the original post. of course its one sided, the mans supporting his opinion, he obviously isnt going to say BUt then again, the opposition isnt that bad, i mean, bush is great. his film is based on his dislike for that party, not his like for it. and if you've read his books/watched his movies, youd realize, hes not really that one sided, he takes shots at most of the politicians, regardless of party.
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one time i saw michal more in o-hare airport.. some black man started yellin at him callim him a nigga hata.....


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Jun 25 2004 7:01PM
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asac
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Well looks who's talking. Low blows and cheap shots. WOW. I guess we should just completely ignore him, but for some reason, that doesn't seem fair now, does it? Is their some other polical party we're forgeting that takes cheap shots and low blows. Gosh, what was their name. You know the one that harrasses movie theatres and calls war for the sole purpose of oil. Oh yeah, now i remember, the REPUBLICANS.





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Jun 25 2004 7:06PM
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eton
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haha, yep, well all political parites take cheap shots, are general asses to the other parties, some are worse than others but they all do it, all politicians come from the same mix anyways
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Jun 25 2004 7:22PM
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the fact that the quote was from the Wall Street Journal (a liberal newspaper) says a lot

Whoa, wait... the Wall Street Journal is a LIBERAL publication? That would be why the op-ed pieces are always calling for things like closing our borders to all immigrants and cutting federal programs like the public education system? If the Wall Street Journal is liberal, what does that make ME? A super-ultra-hippie-commie-pinko-whacko-vegan-pacifist-ultra-leftist?

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Jun 25 2004 7:44PM
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Hey guess what? 42 of you idiots went online, most of you without even seeing the film, to discuss it and its content. You all lose, and Micheal Moore wins. Period. If you don't understand that, you're probably in the 'special' class at school.



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Jun 25 2004 9:08PM
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JATS101
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dont know about his new movie, but bowling for columbine (not sure if that is spelt write), moore makes a lot of intresting points and if you are gullable enough to believe everything he says, your an idiot, cause almost everything in bowling for columbine is one sided, just got to look a little to see it. thats my two cents, im out


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Jun 25 2004 9:12PM
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asac
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Hey guess what, i already the movie so i win.





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Jun 25 2004 9:23PM
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asac
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i already SAW the movie***. typoes errrr.





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Jun 25 2004 9:23PM
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why do people assume that because a potential fact goes against their beliefs that it must be false(like bowling for columbine a handful of people mentioned)? can't you instead see something for what it is and not be blinded by your own prejudices towards anothers ideals. Open your eyes, to whatever your shutting out now and show some tolerance.




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Jun 25 2004 9:50PM
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asac
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Yes, he's lays out the facts and says 'here's what i see, here's what i interperate, now here's my opinion'. its a very insiteful movie and it was pretty funny too. His intentions for America are only good.





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Jun 25 2004 10:11PM
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eton
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the problem is only some people will recieve what he has to say with an open mind and read between the lines, too many people are too set in there opinions already, and to proud to be reasonable and have an open mind
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