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American football is pathetic.

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twin-tip-hero
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So after watching the superbowl with a stopwatch in hand, I came to the conclusion that football is a sorry excuse for a sport. Yes they may hit hard, and it gets hot in all that gear, but when you play for 5 seconds at a time I find that to be a joke. Adding up all of the 4 second plays throughout the entire Superbowl game the total time came out to ~10:53. 10 minutes and 53 seconds of actual play time! What a goddamn joke. I mean honestly 11 minutes of play stretched out to make it seem like it's an hour long? And how long is their damn half time!? Jesus christ.
In real football(soccer) you play for 45 minutes straight of nonstop running and sprinting, 10-15 minute halftime, then another 45 minutes. 90 full minutes of running, sprinting, action in a game.
American football can suck it. Say what you want, I don't give a fuck about what all you football heads have to say about this thread, I won't be coming back to it. Just wanted to put it out there.
Feb 6 2011 11:39PM
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incognegroe
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i believe ignorance is the best answer to that question
Feb 7 2011 1:57PM
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RoofDaRoofieDogg
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haha i agree with the soccer thing
Feb 7 2011 2:30PM
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bistroburrito
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a tight end wouldn't last, but cornerbacks and safeties are athletic enough to last as well as wide receivers
Feb 7 2011 3:15PM
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john.stossel
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to the guy above... very few wide recievers even would have the endurance for pro soccer
Feb 7 2011 3:45PM
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Mr.Turtle
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not sure if its accurate but i read that football hits are up to 14x as powerful as rugby hits.
no clue about accuracy
Feb 7 2011 3:51PM
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shocker611
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there isnt as much danger for full speed head on collisions in rugby though. I certainly would never diss rugby because it is a badass sport, however if rugby players took the shots that football players do on a regular basis with the padding they wear, they would be dead
Feb 7 2011 4:00PM
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Huck_Norris
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Ok so on the same token, how long do you think the best athletes in soccer would last playing pro football?  Let's be honest, we're seriously comparing apples to monkey wrenches here.  Saying pro football players couldn't run as far as soccer players is pretty dumb unless you're going to talk about how many hits a soccer player could take.  My guess is one big hit from a linebacker over the middle after catching a pass and they'd be waiting for the red card that's never coming.  To be very honest, football is more about toughness and explosive strength than endurance, always has been and it's stupid to try to compare them. 

Just pointing out this is the dumbest "argument" in sports history...  And soccer players are consistently juuuuuuuuust insecure enough about their sport to keep saying the same stupid shit over and over and over again about football.  It's tired.  Let it go.  And to the OP, nobody cares that you hate football and were still stupid enough to watch the super bowl- the rest of us don't watch shit we hate.  You should try it.      

Feb 7 2011 4:01PM
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.cam.
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here.

Feb 7 2011 4:07PM
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Ski_the_east01
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invalid argument.

really sports science?? A professional athlete against these guys from the la rugby team?? hahahah give me a break

thats like comparing the best kid on your little league team to barry bonds...hmm wonder who is gonna hit it farther..

Feb 7 2011 4:14PM
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Where-am-I
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Hockey FTW
Feb 7 2011 4:19PM
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TechnoPotamus
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Feb 7 2011 4:19PM
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doobiebrotha
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soccer's about as gay as it gets..


anyways sounds like you weren't drunk enough for the superbowl bro.
Feb 7 2011 4:20PM
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shocker611
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thats also a CB
Feb 7 2011 4:22PM
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.cam.
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Dude calm down. Thats also not the hardest hitting football player. I bet you didn't even watch it.
Feb 7 2011 4:24PM
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Ski_the_east01
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i did watch it..which is why i knew the rugby players were far from professional

i also know that jammer isnt even close to the hardest hitting guy in the league

i would have loved to see them compare someone like a ray lews to a jonah lomu..i wasnt shitting on football by any means i love the sport

i was just shitting on that garbage "scientific experiment"

Feb 7 2011 4:29PM
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.cam.
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ok then but I still think everyone should stop fucking arguing about the difficulty of sports.
Feb 7 2011 4:31PM
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shocker611
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when did it become football vs rugby?! why not shit on soccer for there not being any contact at all?!
Feb 7 2011 4:36PM
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Ski_ThEast
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you obviously have never played football before in your life therefore have no idea what you are talking about
Feb 7 2011 4:37PM
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FreeBallin
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16 game seasons...thats why the NFL is fucking gay(note I said NFL as an organization, not the players).

Football is the easiest(biggest bandwagoning) sport to be a "fan" in, because you only have to pay attention 16 times a year.

Hence, why American meatheads jocking the ever loving shit out of it.

PS. I'm from Pittsburgh, talk about bandwagoning nfl fans, the past two weeks here are so laughable with pathetic "fans". Buying everything Steelers they could buy at the grocery store displays.



Feb 7 2011 4:42PM
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FreeBallin
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how you about you add to the discussion?

Instead of acting like a jackass, hiding behind insults because you have nothing real to say.

He mentioned fitness, why dont you actually talk about that?
Feb 7 2011 4:45PM
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Huck_Norris
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Dude, it's the same with any pro sport.  I played football for 8 years and love it with all my heart.  That said, I don't understand why somany people get so rabid about "their team" no matter what sport it is. 

I think pro sports exist solely for the unathletic and bored to latch onto in order to bring meaning into their life.  The more pathetic the rest of your life, the bigger a pro sports fan you'll be.  I mean, if you were into the shit yourself or had any passion invested into anything tangible, you'd be out doing it and not hanging onto the scent of every fart from your fav player. 

Feb 7 2011 4:57PM
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Anathema
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what are you trying to say? yeah, soccer is running time, but there's only about 10 minutes of action there, too. the entire game they just pass the ball around the back/midfield and try to feed one of the forwards and fail. who the hell wants to watch a game for that long and have 1 point scored, any way?

Feb 7 2011 5:00PM
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carbon.pulse
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That was rediculous. Those rugby players were tiny and the tackles were completely different.

The poor excuse for a rugby player pretty much ran stoped and picked the guy up wheras the NFL player ran straight into him with zero technique.

Also, there are bigger guys in my University XV, let alone a Provincial or National team, if they were put in and tackled properly im sure they would put out bigger numbers than the NFL player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lSsUKe8ihI
Feb 7 2011 5:09PM
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pomme-de-terre
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i didnt read the thread, but i bet anyone $5000 right now that, judging only by the title, this entire thread is a shitstorm argument.

Feb 7 2011 5:11PM
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CAPITA-DEVOURS
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american football isnt even a sport. like yea they are tanks but they are pussy and they cant run for more than 1 minute without passing out.
Feb 7 2011 5:15PM
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Broseph_Stalin
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it comes down to opinion and who plays what. lets be fair and say that both games have their exciting moments and are pretty fun to play and watch (again what ever your opinion is)

op stop being so negative

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Feb 7 2011 5:16PM
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FreeBallin
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high fucking five man +K
Feb 7 2011 5:22PM
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BenWhit
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tell me these aren't real athletes and killing machines and i'll tell you you're a fucking moron. Football players are incredibly athletic. they have to have the agility to make quick cuts, gain leverage, and make explosive hits on the fly. they also have to think on the run, so arguing that football players aren't smart is rather silly. Players need to have the ability to recognize each teams formation, know exactly what play that team is going to run through extensive studying of film, and react. AP runs a 4.3 40yd and still is the most punishing offensive player in the NFL. he runs over linebackers and defensive backs, and i'm certain he could hang with a majority of rugby players. Ray Lewis is THE bona fide badass of the NFL. he dishes out hits like no other. to tell me that these players aren't real athletes is like telling me that Simon Dumont isn't a real skier.

Soccer, football, and rugby are incredibly different and there is no way to bridge the gap between them. each sport is going to flex their muscles and claim that their athletes are far superior to the others and that's fine. but when you try to make the argument that one sports' players don't have skill or athleticism, your argument instantly becomes invalid.
Feb 7 2011 5:42PM
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BenWhit
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get the fuck out of here.
Feb 7 2011 5:43PM
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Spinoza
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watching the super bowl with a stopwatch is one of the saddest things ive ever heard. i feel a bit better about my life right now
Feb 7 2011 5:45PM
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B-runge
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i dont like sports
Feb 7 2011 5:50PM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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i agree with him on the running thing. if an nfl player played rugby he wouldnt last til half time. just sayin..
Feb 7 2011 5:53PM
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El_Barto.
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youre a puss puss
Feb 7 2011 5:55PM
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BenWhit
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the thing is, receivers cover so much ground in such a short period of time. consider a fly route or a drag, a receiver might cover 50 yards per play at a dead sprint. the sports are inherently different, and that's what made them great. but with proper training, i;m sure an NFL player could easily transition into rugby or vice versa.
Feb 7 2011 5:57PM
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FreeBallin
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did you just post a shirtless sweaty dude?

And we wonder why other countries think we are so fucked up....
Feb 7 2011 5:59PM
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Huck_Norris
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Yeah, I'm sure NO NFL ATHLETE could run long enough to play a game of rugby or soccer. Are you high?


Feb 7 2011 5:59PM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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no, they couldnt. 10 mins of running vs 80 mins of running. im sure some nfl players could LAST 80 mins, but they definitely wouldnt be able to keep up with the game
Feb 7 2011 6:03PM
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FreeBallin
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Two sides to that topic...

I am sure half the NFL couldn't last(running) a whole collegiate rugby game(linemen etc).

In my opinion, that is very embarrassing when you can group that many "pro athletes" into that group.


Still wonder why other countries dont care about the nfl?
Feb 7 2011 6:04PM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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ok, sweet, they can sprint fast. big deal. how about we have them running nearly continuously for 40 mins at a time, whilst getting pummeled.

-proper training
-transition

key words right there
Feb 7 2011 6:06PM
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Huck_Norris
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I always wondered... Is being retarded like being high?

By your measure, XC runners are the most badass. Wait, that doesn't work either...

There's many NFL athletes out there that would shit all over rugby players. Don't think for one second that they are universally one-dimensional athletes, but the game they're playing might make you think that if you're high on paint fumes. See them for what they are. Sure, the Vince Wilforks of the world are only running to the buffet line, but then you have guys like AP etc who are physical freaks in every sense of the word. Monsters of physical ability that would be a top athlete in any sport.

To deny this would be admitting that you don't understand what goes into creating a top athlete, no matter what the sport. To say that a top level running back, corner back or wide receiver doesn't have stamina because you've never seen them try is pretty stupid.

I think rugby is a badass sport too, but to try to say that no NFL athlete could hang just tells me your opinion is worth exactly one heavily used square of tp.

Feb 7 2011 6:23PM
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feihlination
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this is actually not true. i was born in europe and lived all my life here, so i know soccer very good. but i also watched all of the last 2 seasons of the nfl (fucking love it) and nfl players also cry. very lately when the packers player punched the steelers player in the face on a punt return, damn, at least half a dozen guys pointing at the ref and screaming for a flag.

and: soccer is played standing up and you control the ball with your feet. it would be simply unplayable if full contact was allowed. its actually very intense if you play. kinda like basketball imo. rules say you shouldnt make contact but in real life you use your body a lot.
Feb 7 2011 6:26PM
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no_steeze
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the superbowl was not as entertaining as usual

at least the fucking steelers lost
Feb 7 2011 6:31PM
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thedawg
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play hockey /thread
Feb 7 2011 6:34PM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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haha you tell me chief, you're the one thats comparing NFl to rugby.

and no, there is not. you are still wrong. maybe if they got the chance to actually line someone up and take them down (IF the NFl player wasnt too tired or slow by then), then yeah they might match up for a second. but they wouldnt know what the fuck to do after that. see in NFL, when you tackle, your aim is just to take down the person with the ball (small objectives for small minds). in rugby, they actually have to use their brains when they tackle, because unlike NFL, we dont pause the game every time the player with the ball is tackled. rugby players have to judge where the ball is going to end up/position of person with ball, and try gain possession of the ball during the tackle or immediately after it, or put the opposition in an unwanted position that forces a turnover.

summed up: no, an NFl player could not 'hang' with rugby players, even if he could run for 80 mins and destroy any player in a tackle.
Feb 7 2011 6:45PM
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Huck_Norris
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Take your head out of your ass, they're the same fucking skill set, applied ever-so-differently. Your arguments are terrible.



Feb 7 2011 6:53PM
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skier_boy26
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NFL is play-based. Each play is to move the ball, or stop it.

Rugby is continuous, but same idea essentially.

They both have their merits. But they are very different. By being so condescending, you aren't making rugby more appealing to anybody, even though I think most people, myself included, find rugby pretty sick. You, and a bunch of others, just cannot realize that the sports can vary so much that there is no point in comparing or shitting on them.
Feb 7 2011 6:53PM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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and is this your argument? LOL, solid points man
Feb 7 2011 6:56PM
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Huck_Norris
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No, I just don't see the point in debating anything further with you.

You've already identified rugby players as "we" indicating that you play it, and you are defensive to an obvious fault. The actions you've chosen to pull out and critique on the differences between tackling, etc. are so trivial it is almost comical.

But you're right. YOU- BUKAKKESTRIP THE GREAT can play this game, NO WAY could Adrian Peterson handle the transition. Jesus you're a fag. Just the fact that you can manage to handle the rules and gameplay should tell you a fucking massively superior athlete who's entire perspective has been shaped to think on the fly in a full speed full contact situation should be able to adapt pretty quickly.

Or you could just continue to reaffirm your inability to use things like reason and logic, because that's fun to watch too.

Feb 7 2011 7:04PM
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powderdrunkie
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well said my friend
Feb 7 2011 7:08PM
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Alex_G
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its not, only because stopping a full sprint and starting back into a full sprint is much harder on your body/lungs than a constant jog which you call "difficult". think of it like a car in city traffic vs the highway. You usually waste more gas starting and stopping in traffic than when you are cruising.
Feb 7 2011 7:13PM
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