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American football is pathetic.

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twin-tip-hero
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So after watching the superbowl with a stopwatch in hand, I came to the conclusion that football is a sorry excuse for a sport. Yes they may hit hard, and it gets hot in all that gear, but when you play for 5 seconds at a time I find that to be a joke. Adding up all of the 4 second plays throughout the entire Superbowl game the total time came out to ~10:53. 10 minutes and 53 seconds of actual play time! What a goddamn joke. I mean honestly 11 minutes of play stretched out to make it seem like it's an hour long? And how long is their damn half time!? Jesus christ.
In real football(soccer) you play for 45 minutes straight of nonstop running and sprinting, 10-15 minute halftime, then another 45 minutes. 90 full minutes of running, sprinting, action in a game.
American football can suck it. Say what you want, I don't give a fuck about what all you football heads have to say about this thread, I won't be coming back to it. Just wanted to put it out there.
Feb 6 2011 11:39PM
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b-ladd
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Your mom's pathetic.
Feb 6 2011 11:40PM
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Travapple.
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inb4 this fucking argument again
Feb 6 2011 11:40PM
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T-Holt
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Cool
Feb 6 2011 11:40PM
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freestyler540
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here comes the shitstorm
Feb 6 2011 11:41PM
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95959
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We all know you'll be back...

And yes, soccer players are hardass athletes. Owait, they wouldn't last a quarter in the NFL except at receiver maybe. Until they went over the middle...

Don't get me wrong I do like soccer
Feb 6 2011 11:42PM
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MCIRONCOCK
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Had a pretty heated discussion about this with my neighbor during the game actually haha. It's a little sad, actually. If you want to watch a real contact sport, watch rugby. Or hockey.
Feb 6 2011 11:42PM
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poluhasuper
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look at pole vaulting, swim racing, freestyle competitions(like SKIING comps), ur argument is retarded.
Feb 6 2011 11:43PM
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[evan]
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I prefer real futbol, but this is gonna be a fun read by about 8:30 tomorrow night.
Feb 6 2011 11:43PM
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Travapple.
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You made this thread to do nothing but start a shitstorm.

therefore i hope you get banned.
Feb 6 2011 11:43PM
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vandersteeze
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I bet you made this thread because you are butthurt that your girlfriend had a stopwatch and timed each of your 4 second "plays" in bed and they only added up to 30 seconds.
Feb 6 2011 11:43PM
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Jamestown
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vs.

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Feb 6 2011 11:44PM
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Dwarftosser1
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ouch thats gotta hurt
Feb 6 2011 11:45PM
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MCIRONCOCK
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I wouldn't expect an NFL player to be very good in a professional tennis match. Comparing sports like this isn't going to get anywhere, we're just going to go in circles until the thread dies.
Feb 6 2011 11:46PM
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Travapple.
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i like you style



also, your sig is hilarious
Feb 6 2011 11:46PM
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rewand0
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who cares. they are both good sports.
Feb 6 2011 11:47PM
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Noss.
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butz ur fr0m amerika? wahhh?
Feb 6 2011 11:48PM
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the~muffin~man
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this is why i play table tennis

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Feb 6 2011 11:48PM
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PeterWojnar
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Everyone knows American football is retarded, and everyone knows real football is much better...


But nobody gives a shit what YOU think.
Feb 6 2011 11:49PM
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muFFn
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Why can't your karma go any higher?
Feb 6 2011 11:49PM
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soulskier
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Feb 6 2011 11:49PM
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bakedpow
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Exactly. Each sport has its own aspect to it that other athletes from other sports just wouldn't be able to do.

Do you think a single player from the NFL besides maybe tight ends and receivers would be able to last more than ten minutes in a Premier league game? They would collapse.

In my opinion Golf and Baseball are probably less of a sport than American football.
Feb 6 2011 11:50PM
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Jamestown
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I wanna see a jockey play nose tackle, but I also wanna see BJ Raji in the Kentucky Derby.

:o
Feb 6 2011 11:51PM
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Travapple.
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uhm. running backs, corners, safeties, Michael Vick?
Feb 6 2011 11:53PM
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95959
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but... but... the OP did it first!
Feb 6 2011 11:53PM
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Travapple.
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just like every other this vs that sport thread.
Feb 6 2011 11:54PM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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word, agree completely. and they may hit hard, but they have pads like little pussies. it would be fun to watch an nfl player play a game of rugby.

and yes, soccer dominates american football
Feb 6 2011 11:57PM
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Bob_Gnarley
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I seriously hope your joking. Go out there and get hit by a 240 lb black person that can run a 4.4 and see if the pads really help you at all. And also, take  the best NFL player and put him in a major rugby league and he would be the best player in the league.
Feb 7 2011 12:40AM
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The_Future
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Anyone who talks shit about football has never played football or actually been involved with football.  American football involves a shit load of physical and mental strength.  Comparing soccer and football is like comparing a sprinter and a marathon runner.  You are talking about two completely different things and you just look dumb.  American football also involves a lot of strategy and knowledge about the game.  Try and learn a playbook once and tell me how easy it is.
Feb 7 2011 12:42AM
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thugaim
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You should have just not posted the second part...
NFL players may be faster/stronger than many rugby plaers, but they aren't built for endurance at all.






I think Haloti Ngata or whatever his name is used to play rugby in high school...
Feb 7 2011 12:48AM
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Bar_Down
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soccer is a fuckin awesome sport, but it could use some of the intensity that you get in other sports such as football or hockey. the sport could be respected and loved a lot more if the refs didnt call a fuckin foul every time the players dive and start crying. they should actually try to give their all and get to the ball first instead of hoping the ref will think their acting was worthy of a whistle
Feb 7 2011 12:48AM
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FrenchToastMafia
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soccer > football? common bro you can't be serious!! Soccer is one of the most boring sports to watch in the world, there's rarely any scoring. You are retarded for making this thread
Feb 7 2011 12:49AM
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do.a.rodeo
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It's people like you who give the US a bad name.

FIrst off, if the pad's are as useless as you say they are, they wouldn't bother wearing them at all.

And the 'best' NFL player probably wouldn't even make the first XV in a major rugby league eg. Super 14. It's a completely different sport, and requires actual fitness, unlike the NFL.

Feb 7 2011 12:50AM
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Bumbleton
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I am so tired of this fucking argument. I have played a number of sports including lacrosse and soccer and am playing football at the university level next year. Although lacrosse and soccer are great sports, football is by far the toughest sport I have ever played. It requires a huge amount of  knowledge and strategy, physicality, agility, and yes, stamina. Although football plays on average last for anywhere between 5 and 20 seconds, during that time every player is going full speed. There is no no one going half speed or letting up in anyway. After a number of plays like this where players are experiencing an all out, full speed, physical war, it can certainly add up and become incredibly exhausting. As far as the "football is for pussies, rugby is better because they dont wear pads" argument goes, if football players didnt wear helmets and shoulder pads players would die. Football hits are very often helmet to helmet and hitting helmet to helmet at the speeds high level football player do would often end up being be fatal or brain damaging (not that brain injuries dont happen in football anyways). The style of hitting in the two sports is very different, rugby does not require any padding for this reason.... Imagine taking a hit like this without a helmet:

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Feb 7 2011 1:03AM
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mommy
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i like football. go pack, go!
Feb 7 2011 1:07AM
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RubberSoul
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i remember when i was in middle school and argued about which sport was better (that's directed to everyone)

that's 10:53 of hitting and getting hit as hard as possible by huge dudes. soccer is sick too, in a different way (i'm a soccer player). both are sick

now everyone take 5 extra minutes of recess to settle down
Feb 7 2011 1:08AM
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MACAQUE
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Who gives a fuck? Watch/play whatever you like. I don't give a fuck. We can all just agree that skiing is more badass than football and soccer and lacrosse and rugby etc.
Feb 7 2011 1:10AM
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SCOO-WOOP
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I've played both sports.


American Football combines strength, etc. with a coaches ability to effectively call good plays. Its like a really competitive, live-action, hard-hitting game of Chess.

While Soccer involves a lot of thinking as well, its more about endurance, speed, and shitfucks of physical ability to be able to handle the ball. However, it looks to most Americans as a bunch of grown men kicking around a ball and crying when they get the slightest bump, push, etc. making Americans remember that thats how they used to act in 6th grade.
Feb 7 2011 1:19AM
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bakedpow
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Exactly and to be able to play fotbal at a high level, say premier league you have to be able to still think and make smart decisions when your whole body is completely dead from running.

This is in my opnion a huge difference american football is a bunch of stupid players (minus some quarterbacks) who go out on a field and follow orders. Fotbal you have to keep your head the whole game and make smart decisions even in the last 5 minutes.
Feb 7 2011 1:22AM
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Skithedeep
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come talk when you have played every play of a full football game. sure its not the most aerobically challenging sport, and NFL players obviously dont play the whole game, but you should have a little experience with things before you open your mouth
Feb 7 2011 1:25AM
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bakedpow
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I played football, it was a joke compared to my soccer team. I play at a very high level of soccer and i must say it doesn't compare very well to high school football.
Feb 7 2011 1:27AM
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SCOO-WOOP
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Definitely not.

Both offensive and defensive linemen, the former of which guard the quarterback and the latter trying to sack him, have to be able to think on their feet. Offensive linemen have to be able to predict what the Linebackers on the defense are thinking, as well as where the quarterback will move if there is pressure on the pocket so that they can get to a good position to protect him. They also have shitloads of audibles they have to remember for different plays, formations, etc.

Defensive linemen also have to be constantly thinking about what shade and formation they're in, as well as the multitudes of audibles for different defenses as well as making sure that they can open up lanes for the linebackers to get through in order to take out the quarterback/runningback/etc.


Its not just going out on a field and following orders.
Feb 7 2011 1:27AM
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bakedpow
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Ya i guess. They have to memorize hundreds of plays and the options for them (I have no idea how) but it's still not as much thinking as is involved in soccer, per player. The coach is calling every play for the most part and in soccer that never happens.
Feb 7 2011 1:30AM
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artfullydodged
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yessss, random mommy appearance.
Feb 7 2011 1:31AM
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Skithedeep
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im not saying football is harder than soccer, not saying that at all. its a completely different dynamic. soccer is endurance, football is short bursts, and you get the hell beat out of you. i would never wanna run around for an hour and a half. im just thinking back to barely being able to crawl out of bed saturday mornings from being so sore and beat up.
Feb 7 2011 1:33AM
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BenWhit
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there is a serious difference in physical exertion between football and soccer. in football, each player is giving 100% every play. pads honestly don't cover that much, really just your shoulders and head. when each player is at a full sprint absolutely smashing into each other, it takes a serious physical toll on you. i don't care what your argument is, football does far more physical damage and requires far more brute strength and physcial exertion than soccer. also, it requires a serious knowledge of the game..i.e. tackling/bloxking technniques, learning a ridiculous amount of plays, and understandin defensive and offensive schemes. why do you think football players careers are so short, games are only once a week, and so many players' bodies deteriorate years after retirement? because smashing into each other at a dead sprint 60 times a game (teams generally average 60 offensive plays per game (im pulling this stat out of my ass)) literally kills you.
Feb 7 2011 1:34AM
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bakedpow
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I agree with most of what you said except the physical excertion part. Go play a full 90 minutes running non stop then tell me how you feel.
Feb 7 2011 1:40AM
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fujarome
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thats the thing that bothers me most about american football. I think it would be interesting how things would go if they reverted, and made it so the players aren't constantly in communication with the coaches and don't have long to figure out their play.

As an individual sport football is much better because every time a player gets the ball, they become the focal point of the game, and dictate how the run of play is going to go. A good (or bad) pass or shot can easily alter the course of the match, from that 1 player. Everything becomes a possibility when you get the ball.
Feb 7 2011 1:41AM
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MCIRONCOCK
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I'd be cool with allowing soccer players to hit each other (within reason) if football players would be in minimal communication with the coach, and have their play orders set up before each quarter so that each game doesn't have 45 out of the 60 minutes where the players are doing literally nothing.

Would make each game more interesting, no?
Feb 7 2011 1:49AM
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Feb 7 2011 1:50AM
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fujarome
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soccer has much more contact than most people think. I think that probably stems from everyone arguing about how they played soccer when they were little before moving on to football in high school. High level soccer isn't an impact contact sport like football, where you just run straight into each other. Instead it's things like controlling a ball while in a dead sprint, while another guy or two grab your shoulders, push you back with their entire upper bodies,and trip you up. And slide tackles can be horrific.

Feb 7 2011 1:58AM
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