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God I feel so amateur asking this...

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kootenayklaus
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So, I just moved from the states to Canada, and my new home mountain actually has a decent jump line. My old hill didn't, so I have never skied jumps before up until a few weeks ago...

I've been playing around with style and stuff, and really only find myself comfortable doing slow, stylie one's and shifties and such. I got a five purely by luck, I can't spot my landings on rotations 3+. I can't tell what's wrong, even after reviewing footage on my head and watching followcams, other than I'm not spotting my landing.

It's really confusing for me because I can spin off rails for a 450, and sometimes a 630 and easily spot my landing for the stomp.

I've expierimented with carving into the lip, etc, but that usually just throws me a bit backseat for the landing. the jump measurements are a 15 foot table and a 30 foot table.

Just give me any tips that could come with use for me, and yes, I have looked in the trick tip cult, but didn't find much advice useful for my situation. +K to helpful responses. Cheers NS!
Feb 2 2011 11:09PM
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Owl
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Welcome to canada!!! :) haha

Mainly wanted to say that but jumps are kinda same technique as rails for spinning minus the edge control haha really only tip i can give is pop and set with your shoulder/head and not arms :P haha Im no expert but it works for me
Feb 2 2011 11:12PM
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PJS.
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for me, its all about getting the rotation one half spin away from what you wanna land, then just bringing the 1 around. work on speeding your spins up a bit, and get comfy with that
Feb 2 2011 11:13PM
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kootenayklaus
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Thanks for the good responses, keep them coming.
Feb 2 2011 11:16PM
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Magnetic
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just practice your just not used to it yet. you'll get it soon.

Feb 2 2011 11:25PM
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whitechocolate
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where you skiing at?
Feb 2 2011 11:28PM
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T_orageskiier
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practice, try to calm yourself down in the air, that you will feel like you can actually see whats going on. With bigger jumps you can see more.
Lakeridge has a good jump line? Do you ever hit up MSLM or Blue?
Feb 2 2011 11:29PM
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BC.
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keep your hips open throughout the spin. keep looking over that spin side shoulder. spins on jumps are just something your going to have to do a lot to get comfortable with them. it will come dont worry. dont overthink it, just ski.
Feb 2 2011 11:44PM
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sammy_
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im having a hard time just pushing myself to do it..i commented on a different thread and they were calling me a pussy but you seem like nice people. would it be easier for me to do a 270 off a rail before i do a 360 on a jump? or the other way around?
Feb 3 2011 12:05AM
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jorb.co
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dont hit jumps.

problem solved.

Feb 3 2011 12:25AM
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bryansbryan
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HEY, AMERICAN! we don't take kindly to yer kind around here.... buddy
Feb 3 2011 12:39AM
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sammy_
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ok..im going to do it this weekend for sure
Feb 3 2011 1:21AM
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Casey
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I think its just going to come down to you hitting these jumps over and over and over and over again until you are completely balanced and unintimitated. Then 3's 5's 1's whatever will be more balanced and come more naturally. Just make sure your fundamentals are solid, you will progress eventually.
Feb 3 2011 1:33AM
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cgibbs2
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keep practicing
Feb 3 2011 1:36AM
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BEagle
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if your landing backseat dont carve cus that will throw you inverted. Just keep the pressure on the front of your boots as you go off and throw the spin as you would if you were just spinning a 360 on flat ground.

But other people are just saying to get used to the jumps. I agree, you probably havent hit lippy jumps like you are hitting now and it just takes a little to get used to them. Once you do though you will never want to go back to the terrible and non-lippy jumps there are at other places.

Good luck man, you can do sooooo much more on those jumps. Im jealous. Only time I get that is when I get out to breck
Feb 3 2011 1:39AM
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BrownBomber
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Its all about knowing where you are at in your rotation, and looking over your shoulder. Trust me, it takes time to get it down.

For 3's, just look over the shoulder you naturally spin to, keep your eyes open (i know, its obvious, but i used to close mine) and try to get eye contact with the landing asap, then just focus on it.

You will get it soon enough. Good Luck.

Feb 3 2011 11:58AM
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zues
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this.... you can't learn to spin by reading a forum. I've tried in the past and the only way i learned is by getting big balls and DOING it; sometimes 10 tries until i'm comfortable
Feb 3 2011 1:16PM
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cubber
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nobody has suggested slaying p00n. try slaying p00n.
Feb 3 2011 1:22PM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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1) Set rotation
2) Pop
3)Look over your shoulder the way you spin, and don't move your head till you see that landing. Just force your head to do it.

You'll get it.
Feb 3 2011 1:24PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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i guess i do it different. i set my spins so that they end on the landing. i've always done that.
Feb 3 2011 1:27PM
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e.wait
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Practice doing 3s as smooth as possible. Set your rotation gently and try to make the spin one fluid motion. Once you get them down like that, just start throwing spins harder in order to get more rotations. Really concentrate on always looking until you spot the landing. Honestly, I had the same problem and all that really fixed it for me was practice. I hope this post will help though.
Feb 3 2011 1:28PM
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Chali2na
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Well we dont take kindly to people who dont take kindly....... Round herr
Feb 3 2011 7:29PM
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powderdrunkie
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now calm down skeeter he aint hurtin nobody
Feb 3 2011 7:39PM
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kootenayklaus
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Hitting up this weekend, MSLM. Holler if you're there, tight-ish (not overly sized) pants tucked into FT Booters, and a Line stance hoodie. And I'm going to take all of these tips into consideration and thank you everyone.
Feb 3 2011 7:50PM
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Captain_Slow
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I learned 360s before 270outs, but I guess its up to the skier and what he/she is more comfortable with, jumps or rails. good luck!landing my first couple 3s was the best feeling.
Feb 3 2011 7:51PM
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kootenayklaus
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Hahaha understood, I know you can't become pro by reading stuff. I'm just looking for some tips that may be helpful and practice makes perfect. Just because I'm from the heart of hillbilly hell doesn't mean I don't have common sense.
Feb 3 2011 7:54PM
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kootenayklaus
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AND FOR THE MEMO, I CAN THREE, I JUST DON"T FEEL COMFORTABLE AND HAVE TROUBLE SPOTTING THE LANDING
Feb 3 2011 7:56PM
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elpolloloco
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Sorry for being a noob but im new here and I want to start a thread but don't know how hahaha if someone could help it would be +k, the only reason i did it here was because i thought it would be the fastest responce.

But for spins just pop a lot, when you pop you are letting your body control the spin and your balance... if you dont pop, the lip is going to set you back seat and you will find yourself being uncomfortable in the air. It was helpful for me also to try and get your outside shoulder around before you land, by this I mean if you are spinning to the left, try and pull your right shoulder around so it is square with the landing, it helps for balance. Lead with your head as well, this will help you with spotting the landings. Hope I could help! When I had this problem it was very frustrating but once you get the hang of it you'll be very happy you kept trying haha
Feb 3 2011 7:59PM
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punkrock32
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Really make sure you're pressing to the front of your boots on the take off.  A lot of people lose focus of this and come off the lip slightly backseat without realizing it. Their spin is then slightly off-axis and can't see their landing when they come around.  Another major problem that throws people off balance stems from this; people come off slightly backseat and try to adjust by looking at the tips of their skis/the lip of the jump.  Stay forward in your boots, pop, set the spin, keep your eyes level and as you get closer to completing the spin start looking for your landing. 
Feb 3 2011 8:11PM
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Elmo.
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once i get to 270 i look down and try to spot it early. but keep ur head moving. plus extra time to get ur body around and for u to look at the landing is a plus
Feb 3 2011 8:23PM
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Cufe.
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http://www.skifilm.com/blog.php

trick tops all down right side. I find them really helpful
Feb 3 2011 8:26PM
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snowbombz
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so you doing a boot of skiing eh?
just spin like em logs dem people roll on
Feb 3 2011 8:26PM
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sammy_
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yea..im not sure which one i will do first but might as well try both this weekend. im getting myself pumped for this weekend. i know im going to do it this weekend. i cant wait! friday afternoon needs to come faster!!!
Feb 3 2011 8:29PM
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NWPA
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https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/570376/

press create thread..
Feb 3 2011 8:36PM
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zues
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well what helped me was to lift my skis so that the tips are pointing towards the ground and turn to grab the tails . almost like a blunt.grab although it took me a while to get true tail.   It really helps you keep balance in the middle of the air.  for threes there isn't much of a spotted landing,  I more or less have to guess the landing by the time i'm at 180,  If I'm comfortable at 180 all is right, if not then i'm fucked. 

Feb 4 2011 3:50PM
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