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Rossi Scratch vs. Troublemaker?
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I'm lookin for a new pair for mostly groomed and park, which do you all like the best?
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dont get tm's there edges suck and fall apart on rails
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scratches over tm's for sure like he said
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yes, but scratches are noodles. If you are doing any type of carving... meh.
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any park ski is a noodle. trust me, if you wanna get a park ski, just go all out for a soft one cauz either way, a stiffer ski (volkl expression, madtrix) aren't gonna give you that good of an edge-hold on ice. the best all moutain ski you could get for park and all-moutain is the Volkl G3. soft in flex and rigid in torsion. Most of the stiffer skis for park aren't stiff in torsion, wich does nothing on ice and will only give you shinbang. I ride the Scratch BC and super stoked on them.
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TM's edges fall apart the first time you slide a rail.
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oh the tm fall apart on the first rail? so everybody sponsored by dynastar gets new skis everytime they hit a rail cuz thats alota skis
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I'd say get the TM's unless you are a hardcore jibber.
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from what i hear, i say get the scratches, i've ridden the scratches and they feel fine and can take a beating, i havnt rode the TM's but i hear that the edges fall out after use on rails.
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I LOVE the way everybody rags on the TMs. Who's vid was it where I saw him get dragged across CONCRETE onto an UNPREPARED handrail which he fell off of when he hit an EXPOSED edge. Not to mention the fact that skis are meant for snow and JUMPS not RAILS and CONCRETE. Both companies void your warranty if they determine that your skis have rail damage. Bottom line, they're both great skis from what I've heard. I know from experience that the TMs are great. If you treat your skis like shit, that's how they'll ski. Treat them well, and they'll return the favor.
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Yeah I have skied both and the TM's are a much better ski for sure.
Sure maybe the edges fall out on rails but i dont do rails so i dont care. The fact of the matter is i skied 60 plus days on both skis and the tm's are a much better ski.
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^hes from alta utah and has hit chads gap and the pyramid gap and hes the best skier ever, so i would listen to him!
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TM's are much better, any skis edges will break if you slide alot of rails.
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Chronics. No wait, FRNTS, no one has said those yet. Or even better, 1080s because they are noodles. No! get the Ar5s, everyone says they are awesome. Or get the Volkl Karmas, or maybe even the Atomic Tweaks. No, dont get those, no one rides those, so they must suck. Sarcasm much intended.
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Im being serious, get the Armada Ar5's or even the Arv's. there an awesome solid ski. wont let u down, PLUS there good for rails.
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Well if ur gettin new skis then i'd probably go with salomon 1080s or the rossi scratch
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if you dont hit ne rails the TMs r soooo sick but if you do then they get fucked
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if you really care about edges jsut drill the base out and put in a grind plate.
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Scratch FS, unless you're really into pipe. They are awesome jib skis, and for park skis they handle well outside the park. Plus, they're really durable. But I guess it comes down to whether you want a softer or stiffer ski; TMs are stiffer (though not all THAT stiff).
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man i love my TM's, and i do rails a TON, and the edges are perfectly fine. as long as youre smooth on rails, theyre fine
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scratches are they shit - even if the TM's didnt fall apart i would still go the scratches
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the tm's are a great ski, I put about 70 days on em this season and they are fine. I've only ridden the scratch for one run, so I don't know much about them. everybody needs to calm on the whole edge thing. How many of you have ridden them for any length of time? I'm sure there are some but any skis can break or have their edges broken on rails. Just be smooth on them and it not a problem.
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