What are the Armada AK JJ's?

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Crazy Fool

So basically its armada's version of rossi's super 7.

Jan 18 2011 7:10PM

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KillaSeason

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pretty much

Jan 18 2011 7:19PM

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Crazy Fool

^I spy another lawsuit.

Jan 18 2011 7:21PM

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connory998

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why would there be a lawsuit for making a big mountain version of one of their own skis?

Jan 18 2011 7:22PM

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There was a cease and desist a few months ago over JJ's and S7's.

Jan 18 2011 7:35PM

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connory998

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aw shit, must have missed that.

Jan 18 2011 8:08PM

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Blake.P

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but it was armada going against rossignol. this one would be rossignol against armada

Jan 18 2011 8:23PM

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Chucktheweasel

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Ridiculous

It's also wider. I think 120mm or 122mm at the waist.

Jan 18 2011 8:34PM

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canuck

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It would love to try a JJ in a 185 with a 120-122 waist for a ski that slurves a little better.

Jan 18 2011 8:48PM

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Crazy Fool

Exactly.

Jan 18 2011 8:58PM

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no_steeze

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i just came

i want a 205 jj. 185's ski like they're 135's

Jan 18 2011 9:05PM

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Chucktheweasel

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The 185 and 175 remain unchanged. The AK JJ is 195 and wider.

Jan 18 2011 9:30PM

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Loner

I dont understand your logic here. Judging by your avatar i can only assume an extreme bias toward Rossignol. So unless you're a rossignol employee i really dont see how you could know the logistics and technicalities of the situation between Armada and rossignol regarding the S7 and JJ. If you stepped back and looked at the situation without your preconcived opinions on the matter you would notice that it was actually rossignol that came to armada with a law suit. They made the JJ first. There are no if, and's, or buts about it. Its just true. I dont really see how rossi can get so butthurt over something that they caused, if they would have been more original about their ski design in the first place there wouldnt be a problem, and we wouldnt have little kids like you running around trying to bad mouth a company that has done nothing but try their hardest to progress the sport of skiing. Armada has been doing BIG things for freestyle skiing since the beginning, I would ask if you remember movies like sessions 1242 and Wski106 but judging by your actions and remarks i can only imagine you wouldnt even know what these are. Well let me inform you, these are quite possibly the best ski movies that were ever made. Look at Tanner in these movies, he was riding armadas, they were a new company back then and look where they are now, they have literally built an empire from a few dudes making skis that rode well. I think it is ridiculous for a large company like rossignol to come in and try and walk all over Armada and then make kids like you believe it is the other way around. That being said i wonder if you have even ever ridden an armada ski before, its dope shit. I would say you should go ride a pair becuase you seem like the kind of kid that would be much better at skiing if you spent half the time doing that as you do on this stupid website. You joined under 2 years ago and you have 1500?. I joined going on 5 years ago and dont have shit becuase ive been spending my time shreding on real snow, not some stupid website. Trust me kid, i was riding rossignols back when your ass was trying to snowboard in a spiked belt because it was cool at the time. Let me tell you Armada is a far superior ski. So i guess all i am saying is... you should probably get the facts straight before you start talking about a company that has done nothing but help progress the sport for kids like you, go buy some armadas and get that cock out of your avatar.

Jan 19 2011 12:31AM

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.jesus.

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he's stating facts you feckless worm. look it up

Jan 19 2011 12:35AM

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Feckless worm? what the fuck?

Link me to the facts.. Im sure what i know is a more direct. I guarantee it.

Jan 19 2011 12:41AM

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Loner

Get it straight. Armada sent out a cease and desist order to rossignol becuase the S7 was a complete rip. In a shameless butt hurt effort to cover their ass ROSSIGNOL sued armada for the ARV claiming it infringed on their "Shovel Shape Patent." Well to me the ARV looks very similar to just about every other twin tip ski ever made.. So why wouldnt Rossi sue everyone you ask? Well, The whole point of the suit is to get Armada to no longer be able to afford to keep their patent on the JJ so Rossi can fan their ass and keep the S7. End of story.

Jan 19 2011 12:52AM

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@th1337

As someone whos read the actual patents and lawsuits on record, Armada started shit first by sending a bunch of small and large ski companies with cease and desist letters claiming their new patent technology was being copied. Rossie called out their shit by filing a lawsuit, and Armada backed down.

Jan 19 2011 12:53AM

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http://www.exoticskis.com/ExoticSkis/Industry/Rossignol_ArmadaPatents/Rossignol_v_Aramada_2010Oct_Complaint_Case%20210-cv-01008-CW.pdf

enjoy, just copy and paste i dont fucking know how to embed

Jan 19 2011 12:53AM

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.jesus.

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oh cool

Jan 19 2011 1:01AM

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invader7

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Completely false. You guys need to get your facts straight before jumping in here and talking down on Armada like you know what happened, and for the recored petewilson is 100% correct.

Jan 19 2011 1:01AM

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c4t_l0ver

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you're retarded.

Jan 19 2011 1:02AM

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@th1337

So even though we stated the same facts, I'm wrong? Polietely go fuck yourself with a handful of toothpick umbrellas.

Jan 19 2011 1:06AM

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gigi.d

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Completely false. I think Rowen knows what he is talking about.

Jan 19 2011 1:07AM

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Loner

He just isnt though, trust me, I KNOW what happened/ is happening! I know it probably ont get through to you kids but whatever, why do you kids feel the need to back up rossi so much anyway. Im just trying to clear the name of a BOMB ass company that is trying to help you kids out yet you keep acting like theyre the bad guys when it is obviously rossi..

Jan 19 2011 1:11AM

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@th1337

Nobody had any plans to sue anyone until Armada got its patent approved and sent cease and desisits to companies. How are they not instigators?

Jan 19 2011 1:14AM

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Loner

All you kids are super gay about it, and you all joined here like.. a year ago. Trust me when i say i know my shit.

Get of the internet and go do something. Ive posted more times in here than i did in 2010. Shits Garbageee

Jan 19 2011 1:14AM

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c4t_l0ver

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i dont see anyone in this thred baccking up rossi.

AM I BLIND?

Jan 19 2011 1:14AM

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Loner

I dont really see how that is instigating. Picture it like this.

You wanna get a tattoo but you need to get your parents to approve it first, while you parents are thinking about it your friend decided he wanted to get the EXACT same tattoo. Then a week later your parents say it is ok so you ask you friend not to get it...

Are you instigating anything? Or protecting what was your originally.

Jan 19 2011 1:16AM

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@th1337

Armada was not the first company to press skis with rocker, theres a huge list of companies I could rattle off that made rockered skis before Armada. Its like putting a patent on sidecut on skis, it's a bullshit patent that will probably get shot down in court if they ever pick up Rossi's gauntlet. I laugh at you if you believe K2 wouldnt fight it either. Dont bother wasting any more child-like alliterations here.

Jan 19 2011 1:25AM

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Daydreaming

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Slow your roll

1st:

Paragraphs

2nd:

Armada actually sued Rossignol for the S7 first for a patent they filed in 2010 but Rossignol had a similar patent from many years earlier so they counter-sued Armada for their JJ.

3rd:

It's just the internet, calm down.

Jan 19 2011 1:29AM

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Mr.Fister

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i bet they were chapped about the whole 5 dimension thing and the rocker-camber-rocker combo.not saying they did it first but thats prolly more the reason?

Jan 19 2011 1:46AM

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All legal bullshit aside; would you rather support this company: http://skiingbusiness.com/2902/uncategorized/2011-12-ski-preview-rossignol/

or

http://skiingbusiness.com/2824/uncategorized/2011-12-ski-preview-armada/

?

Should you support a company that subscribes to this mentality:

"What market segment are you focusing on? How and why?

We are a ski company made up of a lot of talented people. We are athlete, design and art driven and our team is composed of a group of athletes at the top of their game. Our designers are seasoned professionals who are passionate about the sport. Together we design and build skis for today’s youth market who thrive on the alternative side of skiing. Armada’s focus is solely on twin tip designed skis with rocker and camber for backcountry, big mountain, and all mountain adventures. These skis are the ultimate in all-round performance.

Another huge part of our business is park & pipe skis. These skis are developed for skiers pushing the limits beyond imagination to levels no one ever thought were possible. These skis have to handle the abuse from hitting all the features and rails in today’s top ski parks."

or a group of French wussies who are clearly just focused on money and don't give a rats ass about our sport:

"What market segment are you focusing on? How and why?
All-mountain is our focus because it has the broadest consumer base."

Jan 19 2011 1:47AM

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