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My boots are tight, and yet sloppy

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EasySteezy45
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I was skiing this weekend and was goin pretty hard through some deep snow and tight trees and I was getting kicked out of my boots a little bit. They are TIGHT around my legs though already and yet for some reason my foot isnt being held in place like I want. Is this a boot fitting problem, or possibly a back seat problem?
Jan 12 2011 1:43AM
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japanada
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im guessing they are sloppy in the actual foot area and the toes. That is a good indicator that your boots are either too wide, or too big, or a combo of both. Just cause the boots are tight on your shins, doesnt mean that they fit.
Jan 12 2011 2:06AM
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paige.
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It's probably that the boots don't fit well around the foot area. For example I have a tough time finding boots that hold my heel in properly because my heel is pretty narrow compared to the rest of my foot.

Something like custom footbeds may help you get a fit that will lock your feet in better but I'd talk to a bootfitter.
Jan 12 2011 2:14AM
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EasySteezy45
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so should i look into getting some heat molded insoles? is bootfitting expensive? never done it
Jan 12 2011 2:21AM
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BWalmer
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The simple/cheapest solution is to by a foot bed - superfeet foot beds aren't too expensive ($30-$50) and can really help clean up the slop in the toe box and stabilize the heel. You could get custom molded footbeds, but they are obviously more expensive, and might not solve the entire problem, but if the superfeet work, then the custom molded footbeds would work too, but you don't have to get them right away. I'd go that route first. If they still don't fit properly, you're going to have to shell out the money and either go to a boot fitter for adjustment work, or buy new boots that fit properly...or both.
Jan 12 2011 6:28AM
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onenerdykid
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whatever footbed you get (and you definitely should get one), make sure it is matched to your foot profile. You don't necessarily need to go custom, but you do need to have the correct shape for your foot (just like boot companies, every footbed company makes a different shape). Spend some time with your boot-fitter and go over your options. Prepare to spend around $50-$75 for the whole process.
Jan 12 2011 8:53AM
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derpina
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This sounds like a problem when people have narrow heels and wide toes... IMO a footbed isn't going to help much, but putting in more padding around the base of your heel could help a lot. A boot fitter will be able to get that done for you.
Jan 12 2011 11:14AM
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EasySteezy45
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what do people use as padding? I do think it s a heel problem, my heel lifts up really easy, is this a matter of possibly adding more padding around my ankle to lock it in there?
Jan 12 2011 5:11PM
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derpina
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Yeah... a lot of snowboard boots come with this padding that you can velcro in and is often chaped like an L or a C to hold your heel down. I'm sure they could do something like that for you at a boot fitter easily.

If you scroll down on this link you can see the different types of padding for heels.

http://tognar.com/boot_heater_warmer_fitting_dryer_canting_dryers_ski_snowboard.html#bootshims
Jan 12 2011 5:16PM
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onenerdykid
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if you don't have a footbed, you need to get one before you pad your liner otherwise you are wasting your time. If you don't support your foot, your foot will continue to naturally flex and move inside the boot. As your forefoot flexes, your heel will move side to side- this is cause and effect. Plus you don't want to pad your liner if your foot is in the wrong position because of not having a footbed. Once you stabilize your foot, then pad the area. There is a correct process if you want to properly solve your problem. Your boot-fitter will have special fitting foams that he/she will use to then achieve the right fit around your heel.
Jan 12 2011 5:46PM
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chardi
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if you don't want to spend the money on a footbed (which would be the best way to go) you can get some shims or whatever their called. its basically like a flat cardboard insold that goes under the liner. and they doesn't really cost anything, you could really just make them yourself
Jan 12 2011 5:52PM
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EasySteezy45
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sounds like it might be worth it just to get it done by a boot fitter and have it done right...
Jan 12 2011 5:55PM
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japanada
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bondtex board
Jan 12 2011 7:34PM
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EasySteezy45
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is fitting boots just like guess and check? Like do you just say "hey well I feel like if i put padding here it might fix it" or is there a more technical way to go about it
Jan 13 2011 3:21AM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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It sounds like you need some extra foam around your ankle.
Jan 13 2011 4:44AM
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onenerdykid
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A good boot-fitter is like a good car mechanic- the good ones operate on cause and effect, solving the problem from it's source not band-aiding the issue. There are solutions to most every problem, but it does depend on your specific set up on how to proceed. This is why you need to go see a boot-fitter so he/she can assess your specific problems.
Jan 13 2011 8:52AM
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derpina
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Definitely not. When you go to SureFoot they have you step on a pressure scanner that measures your foot in 538 places. It produces a three-dimensional topographical "map" of the bottom of your foot. Data from this map is then fed electronically to an Orthotic fabrication machine.

They can also electronically measure your foot in your boot to see if you have the proper size and what adjustments need to be made for a better fit... pretty damn technical shit.
Jan 13 2011 10:00AM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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that sounds cool. i have to go to there. or one of those, where are they?
Jan 13 2011 10:57AM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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well theres one in NY...
Jan 13 2011 11:01AM
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onenerdykid
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not trying to hate, but that stuff is a gimmick.
Jan 13 2011 11:22AM
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MEGAZORD
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Surefoot is a waste of money.

All that unnecessary technology does the exact same thing that the unweighted masterfit cast does.
Jan 13 2011 12:36PM
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