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QuazBotch
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I had some time late December and early January and decided to take a stab at doing a 3d game. The overhead camera angle doesn't work well for the halfpipe since you can't tell what direction the player is facing - the sidewalls/tips are always facing the camera instead of the tops/bases.

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Of course being 3d presents a whole load of other challenges such as how to shade the ground so you can always tell what the fall line is, how to keep level design/editing simple and shareable, figuring out how the game can assist you with landings, how to give the player good control over the camera if they want it... the list keeps growing the more I toy with it.

Still lots of work to do and problems to solve if I decide to go this route.
Jan 11 2011 11:46PM
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mommy
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you must keep the ability to change the camera angle. its soooo crucial! you might even said it adds a whole new dimension to the game!

dont forget to animate the grabs this time around! keep it steezy!

licolns, rodeos, misties, corks, bios, etc.

some awesome park levels.

we'll pay you... ahead of time!
Feb 5 2011 2:18AM
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mommy
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dont forget butters, crashes, and maybe some character animation? like sexy little crouches and stuff? keep it steezy!
Feb 5 2011 2:24AM
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.JPolster
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Make the camera closer. Dont have inverted arrow key controls
Feb 5 2011 10:42AM
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Jonny7
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no invert and name the spins
Feb 5 2011 11:27AM
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poluhasuper
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just a few ideas



you could make the "a"key for afterbang, "b" key for butter, and spacebar for pop

zoom the camera in a little closer

the guy skis backwards right now lol

he cant start skiing switch

make him be able to spin a 1 on flat ground so you can switch it up between booters


Feb 5 2011 9:03PM
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YoungJeezy
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so sick... i think it looks alot more flowy/realistic than 2D gnarsh. i think you should keep going, good job
Feb 6 2011 4:23PM
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Free_Haven
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 So sick. Makes Gnarsh so much better. Since its just a prototype heres a few things that could make it doper:

- name spins

-grabs

-zoom in

- choose where u start

- and not inverted keys

but otherthen that dope game

Feb 6 2011 4:27PM
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zahava
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Feb 7 2011 8:03PM
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poluhasuper
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^ do not fucking lock the camera ffucking angle fuck
Feb 9 2011 2:22AM
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mer-man
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YA most of all I love this feature makes for some creative camera angles.
Feb 9 2011 11:59AM
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zahava
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I think he means like press "p" to lock the camera in place. Press "p" again to unlock the cam to move it. SOmething like that, so you don't loose your angle by bumping your mouse by accident.
Feb 9 2011 12:34PM
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mer-man
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Genius!
Feb 9 2011 1:13PM
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polka.yardSAIL
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such a great compromise! you should definitely do this.
Feb 17 2011 1:54PM
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polka.yardSAIL
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oh, there should also be a replay editor. kind of like the one from the skate series?
Feb 17 2011 2:06PM
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zahava
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^that would be really hard to program. It would be easier to just embed a screen cam thats saves to your computer, and then edit your own footage on your own editing software.
Feb 17 2011 2:09PM
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QuazBotch
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2 things that I find really interesting:

The steering controls are only backwards if you are looking downhill from behind the skier like most other games. Maybe people find that more natural? Looking at this withfresh eyes today I think the camera angle could be better for playing classic style (looking up the hill from in front of the rider) to see more terrain in front of you.

I didn't post anywhere that hitting the spacebar makes you jump, but people have hit it almost 50,000 times already. Habit from playing Jibbin?
Feb 18 2011 12:26AM
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B-runge
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but the spacebar does make you jump?


and i think the angle from behind (opposite from traditional gnarsh angle) is much more enjoyable
Feb 18 2011 1:12AM
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mer-man
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_husq5Q2IeEThought id build a little hype video, Quaz if you need any help id be happy to make videos to show how everything runs or even if you need some specific.
anyway, Stoked on this!
Feb 20 2011 9:32PM
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Shlogan
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id rather have two options for camera, one front and one back. then you can just program the one from behind as the opposite controls as it is now and leave the other one as is.
Feb 21 2011 8:39PM
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mer-man
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Perhaps test then, fuck idk im just trying to say if needs help with anything. I would be down to contribute. If not it makes no difference to me. I am offering to help out instead of moaning about him not doing free work.
but ya he probably dose know how it runs...
Feb 21 2011 9:55PM
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matt.s
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or just have an option to flip the controls?
Feb 22 2011 8:35PM
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mommy
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you have to leave the unlimited camera angels, its truly an amazing feature and will add a lot to inevitable epic gnarsh edits.

i'm more than wiling to contribute cash for this ish
Feb 23 2011 12:57AM
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array.
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mus
play
now...
Feb 25 2011 9:42AM
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.peter
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shadow cast from the rider at all times would make it easier to tell where you are while going toward features.
It's also hard to get around the park, idk how you'd fix that though
being able to ride up the side of landings and jump off them like the 2d game would make getting unstuck a lot easier.

it looks sick already though
Feb 27 2011 4:53PM
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.peter
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I just noticed that sometimes the trees get in the way and that there's inverted maneuvering when the camera is behind the rider
Feb 27 2011 8:07PM
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QuazBotch
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This one is on hold for now. Focusing on a 2D version for touch screen devices now.
May 17 2011 10:34PM
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B-runge
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me like this^

Jun 16 2011 4:12PM
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DJay.
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"wasd" as controls for movement and keep the mouse as camera
Jul 11 2011 8:27PM
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B-WASS
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i hope this also means there will be a droid version since thats the only touch screen device anymore
Jul 18 2011 5:34PM
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matt.s
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:O
Oct 22 2011 2:02AM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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and how's that been going so far?
Nov 6 2011 9:42PM
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Caspaaa
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whats the status on the 3d and also on the 2d handheld version?
Jan 11 2012 11:24AM
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dfirstie
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hope you didn't forget about the 3d prototype. its awesome right now, but some finishing touches and stuff would be sick
Mar 19 2012 9:36PM
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