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Park ski mounting

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monkatizer
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 i was wondering how bad it is if i were to mount a directional twintip center.

 i ski pretty much 90- 100 percent park and have my twintips mounted standard every time i pull a five and dont land perfect i eat shit b/c i catch my tip edge.

how bad would it be to mount a directional ski center, would it effect the preformance a lot in the park or should i mount them where the manufacturer says?

thanks  +karma for good answers

Jan 8 2011 4:40PM
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clark.
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Are you thinking of re-drilling the bindings or are you mounting new skis?
Jan 8 2011 4:44PM
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monkatizer
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either

Jan 8 2011 4:54PM
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iffe
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For 100% park skiing center mount would be fine, or you could go 1-2 cm back to get some more all-mountain versatility.
Jan 8 2011 5:10PM
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10...nuffsaid
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ALWAYS put your bindings at MF recommended mounting point. Its at the center of the skis geometry. you get the best performance here. If the MFR is too far back for your taste then consider buying a bi-directional ski that has a MFR mounting point dead center.
Jan 8 2011 5:22PM
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JibbaTheHutt
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i ski about 75%park and 25% all mountain i mount mine 2cm back, in some ways, i think unless you have a symmetrical ski or you are going to be skiing purely park there is no reason to mount dead centre, just my thinking though....
Jan 8 2011 5:24PM
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StinkinLincoln
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agreed
Jan 8 2011 5:31PM
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3R1C
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I mount mine at core center always
Jan 8 2011 5:33PM
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SlimDunkin.
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I set my left binding about an inch forward and right binding like an inch back, works really well
Jan 8 2011 5:33PM
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cwillygood
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good answeer
Jan 8 2011 5:39PM
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monkatizer
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i realize this would probly go in gear talk, but does anyone know of a cheap (350 or less) semitrical park ski that is super- duper light and has good flex? it seems if i should ceter i should go semitrical
Jan 8 2011 5:53PM
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Jonny.Ski
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DOMAINS
Jan 8 2011 6:16PM
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monkatizer
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 those are sick, but i need somthing 350 or less
Jan 8 2011 6:26PM
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Jonny.Ski
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Sorry I'm English, I don't know American prices, I guess afterbangs are the cheapest
Jan 8 2011 6:31PM
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skiRay
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I ski my AR7s and AR6s true center. Ive never had any problems skiing switch or all mtn. Or in the park of course
Jan 8 2011 6:31PM
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t_rob
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okay so you are looking for a ski thats less than 350. I'm not totally sure what you mean as a directional twin. That phrase and practice has come a long way in the last 3 years. It seems to me when you say directional you are just saying it's not a pure symmetrical ski, not that it doesn't have a twin tail.

Mounting a ski infront of core center (skinniest part of the ski) isn't a big deal if you're skiing park. A few years ago, a lot of pros were even mounting skis in front of true center. Yes it sacrifices "carving perfection" but that should be the least of your worries and won't make you catch an edge like you're talking about when you land.
Jan 8 2011 6:37PM
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zerospinskier
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You can mount any park skis center. People have been doing it for years. You don't need a symmetrical ski.
Jan 8 2011 6:43PM
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monkatizer
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so, i dont need symetrical skis to center mount, when i ski nearly 100% park?
Jan 8 2011 7:46PM
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zerospinskier
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No. I've ridden Pipe Cleaners, AR5s, T-Halls, Fujatives, Hellbents, Maidens, Nine Lifes, and other non-symmetrical skis all center mounted or -0.5cm from center. If you like the feeling of being center, then ski it that way.
Jan 8 2011 7:54PM
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steezenskis
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the line afterbangs are the cheapest symmetrical ski that i know of. theyre like 330 at my shop.
Jan 8 2011 8:06PM
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monkatizer
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are the line masterminds good park skis? and could be center mounted?
Jan 8 2011 9:07PM
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the.cheat
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core center is the thickest part, not the thinnest, i do believe
Jan 8 2011 9:10PM
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john.stossel
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dead center or 1 cm back is sick
Jan 8 2011 9:11PM
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gombo8
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i always mount my skis 2cm back from true center. the only ski i mount true center are any ski thats 100% symmetrical. because it will ski switch exactly the same way it would ski forward. other skis arnt like that and act different and flex differently
Jan 8 2011 10:03PM
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zerospinskier
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Question: Do you ski switch the same way you ski forward?
Jan 8 2011 10:58PM
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mt_bach_mt_hood
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Its a preference thing but I pretty much never mount at the midsole line of a ski unless it tells me that it should be in the true center of the ski.  With any ski that has a sidecut that isnt symmetrical like the domain or the anthem I would not put it at true center but at least two back.  For most people two cem forward of the midsole line is better for park if you do allot of switch riding or rails.  It will become less of a groomer ski as it will be harder to get up on edge.  But that shouldn't matter cause your in the park.
Jan 9 2011 12:28AM
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monkatizer
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im kinda still wondering what ski to get for next year, i need somthing really light, semitrical(or really close, so that can be mounted center) and that is flexy and less then 400$  

 i was looking at masterminds but people say they are too flexy and are for beginners, im more intermediate and looking to step my game up a lot in the next few years.

thanks again

Jan 11 2011 10:49PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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Why do people think its a good idea to mount park skis at dead center? Your weight should be balanced over the ball of your foot, not your midfoot.

NO SKI SHOULD EVER BE MOUNTED AT DEAD CENTER... EVEN SYMMETRICAL SKIS.

Give me any good reason why you should ever have your weight balanced past the middle of your ski?


Jan 12 2011 1:05AM
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iffe
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This thread just got really interesting.
Jan 12 2011 3:58AM
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zerospinskier
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I've tried many different positions, and through that trial and error found myself the most comfortable at center. The longer tails give me the stability I want for landing jumps and keeping me on my feet. They also help give me more pop onto rails. I like the shorter tips for switch take offs on jumps. They allow my tricks to start spinning easier and help reduce any drag or catching that can happen.

I had to borrow some park skis for a day a few weeks ago that were mounted pretty far back. I hadn't been on some in a while, and reinforced why I like center. Sometimes I would find myself wheelieing on landings if my weight was a little back. I found myself losing pop on jumps because there isn't as much tail to really pressure and produce that spring.

I still think it is personal preference though. This is what I like. You just need to try different points and see what you feel the most comfortable on.
Jan 12 2011 2:31PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
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I am not talking about 5-7cm back. I am saying that the pivot point of your ski SHOULD be under the ball of your foot.

A symmetrical ski, "should" be mounted about 2-3cm back, depending on the size of your foot.

A directional ski usually puts the recommended mount line a couple centimeters back from the center of the core/sidecut.

Mounting with the ball of your foot over the balance point of the ski will help your skiing much more in the long run than the benefits of mounting your boot center over the middle of the ski.

Its why schizos are not just a gimmick.
Jan 12 2011 3:33PM
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monkatizer
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Jan 19 2011 9:25PM
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JvBeusichem
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On the Line Twall Pro, Tom recommends to mount them -3 cm. Is that better than true center?
Mar 9 2017 6:25PM
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albinoboy
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Going center will effect your spinning speed flipping and your ability to turn. (All positively) and up your park game. I totally recomend.
Mar 9 2017 7:48PM
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