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alright, there's post about skiing at someplace ad there's only a 20 foot jump, well first of all i live in the east and there's been no snow here since before easter, and even when there was the biggest and only jump we had was a 20 foot jumo, which we built by hand with a shovel. The hill i ski on has a t-bar to bring u up and that's all, and we only have 2 rails, but hey it's nice to ski for 100 bucks a season, so i can't really complain.