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The Flatspin 180

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Relish_man
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i have always wondered of a flat 180 was possible. now before all the rage starts among butthurt NSers who think im referring to a flat 5 as a flat 1, please let me explain my concept, for it is quite simple.
first, you need two quarter-pipes set up one next to each other but facing opposite directions, like this:
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next, all you need is a stick-figure who has the balls to guinea-pig this trick. all you do is throw a veeeery slow flat 3 and land switch in the second QP, like this:
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and afterbang your way out of this. but film it.


that is it...so
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Jan 3 2011 7:42PM
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loganimlach
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hahahaha, you just proved yourself wrong with your own screenshots!

you're better than that man.
Jul 6 2011 5:08PM
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Mr.Huck
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My bad. I wish there was a photo that showed both features in the same shot. What I failed at saying before was that this looks like flat 3 off of a q-pipe, but landing on another q-pipe staggered but facing basically the same direction.

Take dumont's broken pipe and move one section out 10 feet or so and then soften the wall on the take off so that it sends you a little farther out instead of straight up. Then you flat 3 off and land switch on the wall that you moved out 10 feet. That's what this looked like to me and still does when I watch it. It seems like if you want to flat one, you need a spine basically.

I'm just going to chalk this up as a bad day on NS.
Jul 6 2011 6:16PM
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loganimlach
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it essentially is a spine, made of two staggered quarterpipes... you dig? i think that the camera movement is what's getting you all fucked up.
Jul 6 2011 6:20PM
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Baskilla
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LISTEN BITCH... IF THE PERSON WHO STOMPS THE TRICK SAYS ITS A FLAT 1... THEN IT IS A FLAT 1...

JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF EHEATH TALKING BOUT SOMETHING THAT HE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT...
Jul 6 2011 6:21PM
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eheath
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hahaha too bad you're wrong
Jul 6 2011 6:21PM
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AWALLRUS.
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hahahaha he's right. if i did a double backflip 180 and called it a double cork 1 it wouldnt be a double cork 1
Jul 6 2011 6:30PM
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Relish_man
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Jul 6 2011 6:31PM
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Baskilla
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SO IF EDOLLO STOMPS A TRICK IT IS UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHAT IT IS FOR HIM? YOU SOUND SUPER KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND SINCE YOU THE EXPERT, STEP UP, AND THROW SOME SHIT DOWN EHEATH.
Jul 6 2011 6:31PM
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BuSkiz
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gtfo tard
Jul 6 2011 6:37PM
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eheath
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Jul 6 2011 6:50PM
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Relish_man
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same logic applies to what he said: if you don't know, ask a pro. i think Henrik knows what he's talking about in this case
Jul 6 2011 7:02PM
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eheath
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Ha, henrik never said anything? And i can tell the difference between a cork 9 and a rodeo 9, i don't need to be a pro skier to know the difference. it's the same here.

He's doing a normal 180 its just on an odd plane due to the jump takeoff and landing. you dumb kids can jerk off to the thought of it being a flat 180 all you want, but how can do do a "flat spin" (which is a flip, you just flip on a very horizontal axis) if you don't even do a full 360? backflip=360 frontflip=360 rodeo 5= 360(flip)+180 spin misty 5= 360(flip) +180 etc etc. you can't do a flip without doing a 360, period. /thread.
Jul 6 2011 7:43PM
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Relish_man
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but in a pipe/quarter-pipe, a 180 or a 360 doesn't at all look like what he's doing here. I'm not going to argue with you since you know absolutely everything but I'm fairly certain this is a Flat 180 since it looks exactly like a Flat 360 cut in half.
Jul 6 2011 7:54PM
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eheath
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a flat 3 cut in half would be half of a flip, he'd land on his head/side... you don't seem to get it
Jul 6 2011 8:00PM
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loganimlach
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if you look at the rotation of a flat 3 in the pipe its more a barrel roll, rolling down the pipe. so if you do half of that, and have an opposite tranny, you have a flat 1.

only reason it works is because of the setup of the lip and landing.
Jul 6 2011 8:06PM
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eheath
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like i said before, i want to see a normal shot of this to see what it looks like from a normal perspective, because the one in the trailer is way too distorted and mysterious.
Jul 6 2011 8:07PM
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loganimlach
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i def want to see it too, i'm just relaying from someone who saw it firsthand that the shot delivers.
Jul 6 2011 8:11PM
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POWDER.RANGER
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i did one first trying flat 3s on a pow jump, unfortunatley upon landing i promptly went ass over tea-kettle cause there was about 2 feet of heavy ass pow
Jul 6 2011 8:49PM
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nickmcnutt
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he's right, its a 180 spine transfer/channel gap, filmed from directly underneath. technically, yeah, he's somewhat flat at a point because of the grab and because it's a fucked up axis. it looks cool, but isn't what i would call a flatspin 180. imagine it on just a spine, then add an alley-oop rotation because he's travelling downhill.
Jul 6 2011 9:02PM
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nickmcnutt
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i meant, hes probably pretty much "sitting down" like an "L" the whole time. doesn't constitute a flatspin.
Jul 6 2011 9:04PM
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OGHolliday
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And it is actually henrik not sig?
Jul 6 2011 9:13PM
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Mr.Huck
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My apologies to all. It finally dawned on me what I was looking at. The shot was playing tricks on me. I was thinking that Henrik was going off to the left instead of going directly over the filmer's head. Anyway, sorry for being a dipshit.
Jul 6 2011 10:06PM
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belden...
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But if you think about it to do say a successful backflip on a spine you would only have to do half a back flip so the same logic applies with a flat
Jul 6 2011 10:20PM
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3dressedupasa9
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LIAM DOWNEY TOLD ME PERSONALY IT WAS FLAT 270.
Jul 6 2011 10:29PM
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Taylor_A
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I think dub cork 3 Would be a dub underfip pretty much but if someone did I'd give mad props
Jul 7 2011 4:42AM
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FerrisBueller
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get edollo in here
Jul 7 2011 12:52PM
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Relish_man
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i'm curious, i'd like to ask him if this thread actually inspired him to do it



it would also be a solid claim.
Jul 7 2011 1:01PM
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Elg
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Half a flip would be what it is though, seeing as the landing is almost the same angle as the take off, just the other way if you know what i mean.

If he did a 180 into the "landing qp", without flipping, his head would be against the wall and his legs would be pointing away from it. He has to do "half a flip" to get his body positioned correctly for the landing. I don't know if it is a flat 180, but it sure isn't a regular 180 either.


Just go lay down on the floor (on your back) and rotate 180 degrees on your ass. That is close to what he does on that feature.
Jul 7 2011 1:12PM
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k.thompson
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you claimed that perfectly. maybe even gave them the idea for the shot? :o

clearly a 180 and it looks dope
Jul 7 2011 3:40PM
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C_Thomps-12
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where is the vid with wallisch when he does a cork 360?
Jul 8 2011 1:22PM
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Relish_man
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care to be any more vague?
Jul 8 2011 2:07PM
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OGHolliday
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wheres the shot of that skier that skis?
Jul 8 2011 2:11PM
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Relish_man
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you mean the one where he does that thing, there, in the air? (or was it on a rail possibly, in the park or in the streets?)
Jul 8 2011 2:15PM
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Joonas
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At 2.44 definately could of been a 180..

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/27305421?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/27305421">Timberline Backcountry</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/nimbus">NIMBUS INDEPENDENT</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

if embed doenst work:
http://vimeo.com/27305421
Aug 16 2011 3:47PM
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Relish_man
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yep if he hadnt done the full 3 that wouldve been a definite flat 1
Aug 16 2011 3:59PM
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skiiiiiing
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Why dont u gtfo?
you trash over internet thats sad
Aug 16 2011 4:04PM
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Relish_man
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you are Karmatically underqualified to rip on eHeath. kindly gtfo yourself, sir.
Aug 16 2011 4:07PM
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skodeo7
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It's a flat 180. He rotates with his body completely 100% parallel to the ground at the apex of the trick. I saw it in person, we were setting up another feature and I thought he was working on a flat 3 over it because I couldn't totally see the landing from where I was. On his 2nd or 3rd attempt I realized that he was only doing a 180. He throws it exactly like a flat 3, but only to 180. It's a complete mind fuck.
Aug 16 2011 4:23PM
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E-DOLLO
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I belive it is a flatspin 180 because i did a few regular allyopp 180 over that and they were not like this one at all. And I was trying like Duncan said to do it as a flat 3 but then stop at 180 and fall into the wall (if that makes sense, LOL). I had seen this thread before and i had also though that the only way to do a "real" cork/flat 180 would be on a pipe/spine thing since you can basiclly land at 90degree if your catching high tranny.... No matter what, it was one of the hardest trick i have ever done (took about 15 tries atleast before I got it) and im stoked on how it turned out. Thank you for all the support! One love //HH
Aug 16 2011 5:13PM
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Mike-O
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Whatever it was, it's a trick of the year contender for sure.
Aug 16 2011 5:17PM
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kungfusteeze
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Definitely way more bananas then any Triple.
Aug 16 2011 5:58PM
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Cult_Leader
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i belive henrik
Aug 16 2011 6:08PM
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Otter.
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BAM.
Aug 16 2011 6:31PM
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Tree60
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and relish_man gets the biggest claim of all time... end of thread
Aug 16 2011 6:40PM
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EC-Skier
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page 4
Aug 16 2011 9:57PM
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EC-Skier
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FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
Aug 16 2011 9:58PM
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darthmaul
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looks like you owe e'dollo a million dollarz
Aug 16 2011 10:06PM
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.squirrely.
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this thread fucks with my mind and so does the ghost pages. SPORKS!
Aug 16 2011 10:06PM
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EC-Skier
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YEA, ghost page im like "uhhhh wuh?"
Aug 16 2011 10:27PM
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Relish_man
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YEYH
Aug 16 2011 10:44PM
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