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The Flatspin 180

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Relish_man
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i have always wondered of a flat 180 was possible. now before all the rage starts among butthurt NSers who think im referring to a flat 5 as a flat 1, please let me explain my concept, for it is quite simple.
first, you need two quarter-pipes set up one next to each other but facing opposite directions, like this:
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next, all you need is a stick-figure who has the balls to guinea-pig this trick. all you do is throw a veeeery slow flat 3 and land switch in the second QP, like this:
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and afterbang your way out of this. but film it.


that is it...so
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Jan 3 2011 7:42PM
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AWALLRUS.
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durrrrrrrrrrrrrr
May 20 2011 9:40PM
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technique.
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i have a friend who can do em on tramps, but tried it on a normal jump at snowflex and couldnt, but

after he tried it i thought hard about it and saw something close once. at 7:03 in nimbus "en route plan b" makes me think flat 1s are possible on the correct jump
May 20 2011 10:09PM
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smallmtskier
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with two near vertical lips i feel like this is basically half of a linocln loop?
May 21 2011 11:22PM
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Relish_man
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and a lincoln in the pipe = flat
May 21 2011 11:36PM
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Jahrassicpark
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I can't even put it through my head what it'd look like.
May 22 2011 12:43AM
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Z-Juice
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That's a name I haven't heard in a while
May 22 2011 12:55AM
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JibbaTheHutt
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sorry but i have to bump this in light of the afterdark trailer! what you described was done to the letter!
Jul 5 2011 5:51AM
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belden...
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this... henrik stomped
Jul 5 2011 6:27AM
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alexg1687
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What's the song in this edit??
Jul 5 2011 6:39AM
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sndyrvr
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top notch
Jul 5 2011 10:55AM
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james6345789
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Jul 5 2011 11:14AM
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cwillygood
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hahahhahahaha
Jul 5 2011 11:28AM
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bleevus
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did you see the after dark trailer?
Jul 5 2011 11:30AM
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Mr.Huck
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If you are referring to 1:18, that's a 3. It looks like they have two offset qps in the same direction. OP's drawing has one as take off and one as landing facing opposite directions.

Level 1 After Dark Official Trailer from Level 1 on Vimeo.
Jul 5 2011 11:32AM
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Tonetti.
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the quarters are clearly going in opposite directions and thats clearly a 1... i suggest you watch the trailer again
Jul 5 2011 11:38AM
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LittleFoot
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yeah that was pretty much exactly like the ops drawing
Jul 5 2011 12:09PM
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Mr.Huck
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At this point he is facing back toward the lip. That means he has rotated 180. He continues to rotate. Therefore this was > a 180.
Jul 5 2011 12:18PM
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LT
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Nah he doesn't rotate anymore after that screenshot
Jul 5 2011 12:22PM
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I.B
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I want to see this ^^



Jul 5 2011 12:31PM
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JibbaTheHutt
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the quarters are how the are in the OP's drawing, imagine throwing it yourself(or try on a trampoline as i was doing earlier) he is going fowards down the mountain when he hits the first QP he then does a flat 180 and lands switch going down the mountain!
Jul 5 2011 12:32PM
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LittleFoot
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i can see how you'd get that mixed up because it does look like that in the video but it just wouldn't make sense. I made two little drawings using screen cap.

This is what you think is going on in the video, it looks like he's looking right at the lip after completing a 180 and it looks like he still has 90 left to rotate until he lands. This wouldn't make any sense because you can't really use a halfpipe as a jump. It kicks you up, not forward.

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This is what's really going on. he actually only spun 90 degrees and still has another 90 left to go until he lands.

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The thing that's confusing is that you can't see the first quarter pipe after he leaves it so it makes you think that you're still looking at it from a side view when infact you're looking at it head on in the screencap you posted. It's the rotation of the camera and the fact that you only see the sky for most of the trick that's confusing.
Jul 5 2011 12:40PM
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I.B
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I don't think it was a flat 180. But I think it was half of a flat 3 if that makes sense.
Jul 5 2011 12:46PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Was about to post that. That would be a flat 5?
Jul 5 2011 12:51PM
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I.B
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Yeah! Your drawings are insane. haha

And i think its a cork 5. but a flat 5 would be sick!
Jul 5 2011 1:01PM
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LittleFoot
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read my post...
Jul 5 2011 1:24PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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i wonder hat other kind of crazy shit as thrown on that.

it would be cool to see a LAID OUT backflip or a cork 3 type thing
Jul 5 2011 1:49PM
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TheClap.
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flat 180's soooo 2005
Jul 5 2011 1:55PM
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.ZT.
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i saw some one do this on a tramp
Jul 5 2011 1:59PM
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Relish_man
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oh lawd i predicted it lolololol
Jul 5 2011 6:11PM
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TheClap.
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prove it
Jul 5 2011 6:26PM
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I.B
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Jul 5 2011 6:47PM
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TijmenDal
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It's a flat 1. Definitely.
Jul 5 2011 6:55PM
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TheClap.
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nope


can someone please find the vid frpm prob 5 years ago of a kid trying one over a shed
Jul 5 2011 7:00PM
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R.Fahey
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Not sure if you're referring to the set up or the trick, but watch Pollard's segment in Propaganda (2001 or so Poor Boyz movie).  I think that picture is what it is drawn from... or it's just identical to the set up he hit. 

Jul 6 2011 2:23AM
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snowbombz
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i find this piece to be quite intriguing.

i admire your use of post modern impressionistic brush stroke techniques. The use of a Pointillism constructed linear arrow directs the eye to an additional horizontal plane, which is used to represent a quarter pipe. The expression on the skier's face gives an essence of impressionism. Even so, the skiers body encompasses the styles of primitivism.

very impressive.
Jul 6 2011 2:37AM
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RudyGarmisch
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I dont think it was quite quarterpipe to quarterpipe, more like a quarterpipe they realized they could boost out of and over onto the steep landing. Some of the tricks Pollard did off that were fuckin cool though.
Jul 6 2011 2:50AM
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eheath
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Just because he looks like hes doing a flat 3 but only does a 180, doesn't mean its a "flat" 180. There is no flip. He is on a flat axis the whole time, he just does a 180. But, due to the camera angle and the fact he's on a different jumping plane (quarter pipe) its clearly just a 180.

Think of it this way, if he was hitting a normal qp, could he have landed the 180? if you look at the shot in mid air, he does lean into the other tanny, but he could have leaned forward to to compensate for a normal qp landing. granted, they aren't perfect QPs but still, imagine if in mid air he went into the normal qp tranny. All he does is pop like its a normal jump and does a 180 over the camera and you get the illusion that he is doing a flat spin, but in reality he's doing a normal 180.


Im very interested to see this from another angle, because yes it could possibly be a on a slight axis but from the angle in the trailer, with the camera position and movement, its very deceiving.
Jul 6 2011 3:04AM
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JibbaTheHutt
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the way that i have perceived it(which i can't rely on becuase the camera at no point showed both lips) si that the second lip looked a tiny bit down hill form the first, so if you were to imagine a flat 3 in the pipe then cut it in half, the skier would case, but becuase the is a tranny for him to ride he can land it, making it a flat 180...i think
Jul 6 2011 5:00AM
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SketchySwiss
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It is an alley oop 1
Jul 6 2011 5:16AM
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TijmenDal
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Among things.

How is it counted though? Because his body is pretty much horizontal, but that's normal because the take-off is 90 degrees up. Thus NOT making it a flat 1.
What's the reference point for the off-axisness? The take-off or like the normal 'flat' ground level?
Jul 6 2011 5:59AM
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Baskilla
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THATS A 180. IF IT WERE A # HE WOULD HAVE LANDED FORWARDS... NO HATE I JUST CANT BELIEVE THAT EDOLLARDO STOMPED A FLAT 180!!!!!!!

AND IN THE SAME TRIP... A DUB FLAT 1080... HE HAS SOME SHIT MANE
Jul 6 2011 9:48AM
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eheath
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Its not a flat 180. Its just a 180.

Imagine a really poppy jump and if you did a big tweaked 180 over it and drifted to the right 10 ft. Thats exactly what he did, he just landed into another qp tranny. I think its like clarke or riddle or someone in realtime or LSS that hits this qp jump next to a stall (not quite vert, but close) and airs out like 10-15ft and lands like 5-10ft past the lip on a really steep tranny and does a 180, pretty much the same thing as what henrik did.
Jul 6 2011 9:56AM
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BuSkiz
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yeah its just a 180, the grab might throw some people off, sick trick nonetheless
Jul 6 2011 10:15AM
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Newschool_Pope
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wouldnt your momentum be wrong?
Jul 6 2011 10:28AM
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LOLO_FAVRE
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it's a perfect alley-oop flat 180 if he would continue the spin to a 3 on a quarter it would be a alley-oop flat 3!!! so with that transfer like opposite quarter it's an alley-oop flat 180
Jul 6 2011 11:10AM
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Mr.Huck
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Not trying to be a pain in the ass, but I still don't get how this is a 180. I took screen shots of take off, 180 and landing. Unless the camera changed position, Henrik takes off, rotates and then lands in the same direction that he took off. Here are the shots:

Takeoff:
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At 180:
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Landing:
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If it's possible to hit a jump, rotate 180 and land going forward again without taking off switch, I'd like to know how that's done. No hate to anyone. I just need to know where I'm going wrong here.
Jul 6 2011 3:47PM
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LOLO_FAVRE
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did you really look at his landing cause he landed switch so yeah it's a 180
Jul 6 2011 4:01PM
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Gstrong
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Jul 6 2011 4:14PM
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eheath
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he landed fucking switch are you fucking kidding me? he took off forwards and landed switch, he did a 180. He's not hitting a QP, hes hitting a very steep jump and landing on a very steep landing, that are opposite of each other.
Jul 6 2011 5:00PM
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BuSkiz
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this.

how dumb can you be to think that he goes up and then back down the same quarterpipe, in the vid you can watch the camera pan from one to the other. the man does a 180 and lands switch
Jul 6 2011 5:02PM
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