Surface No Time (Good ski or Bad Ski)

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Nope, good ski. All skis break, i hate that kids get so pissed when they fuck up a ski they slam on rails and abuse on jumps hundreds of times a day for multiple days in a row then they're like WTF MY SKIS EDGES BROKE AFTER 30 DAYS OF SKIING and its like stfu kid skis break.

Buy em.

Dec 25 2010 11:10PM

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Talking shit on ski companies is weak dude, surfaces skis are just as durable as any other ski brand.

Dec 25 2010 11:14PM

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jksl

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any edges will crack if you're hitting rails. if you plan on hitting lots of rails detune your edges nicely before doing so and it will help with that issue.

i would suggest the double time though, more beefy and solid ski. but if you want a fun buttery ski i'd go for the no time.

Dec 25 2010 11:15PM

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Maximumsushi

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Excellent ski.

Anything by K2? I've broken a number of pair of K2 skis. They're definitely pretty dope but I've broken a few of their park skis.

If you're really riding skis, they will break. Although, I have to say I've had about 12-15 pairs of twin tips, and after all those I definitely prefer anything made by surface in terms of durability.

Dec 25 2010 11:21PM

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Sounds like you've never ridden a surface park ski. Coming from personal experience (ive used many different brands of park skis in the past 4 years, armada, k2, line and surface) surface park skis hold up just as well as the others and im not the typical skinny 15 year old park rat rail skier either.

Dec 25 2010 11:22PM

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Weak, id understand if you talked shit and skied the ski but you have no bases to form an opinion, so shut up.

Dec 25 2010 11:28PM

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SPOOOK

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No, it's not weak if they deserve it. Surface has had durability issues in the past. Seen lots of people wreck the shit out of surface skis in unreasonable times. I've also seen a lot of surface skis hold up to crazy shit.

And some skis are not even close to the same durability *cough* Bluehouse *cough*

Dec 25 2010 11:33PM

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OH and if it helps im 5'7 115 lbs

Dec 25 2010 11:37PM

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DUKES

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there have been some problems but if are lookin for a super light poppy ski for a good price then go with the no times

Dec 25 2010 11:47PM

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ian, peter already has edge cracks in his no times and he had them for less than a month.

proof surface durability sucks:

that is the reason why fresh air only carries surface pow skis. they dont want kids coming into their shop bitching about how their surface park skis broke.

Dec 26 2010 12:24AM

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DUKES

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thats some noice rocker

Dec 26 2010 12:31AM

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Balto

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lol no

Dec 26 2010 12:37AM

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bro, i have seen some very fucked up volkl Walls...skis break, get over it.. Surface are the illist, buy em

Dec 26 2010 1:24AM

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Skis break you stupid fucking 15 year old. If you hit rails all day with your skis, NO MATTER WHAT SKI, you edges will crack. You kids are so fucking stupid.

And thomas, surface skis are just as durable, sorry they're not your precious on3ps, which are hand made one by one so yes they will be slightly more durable. But when it comes to amount made and amount broken, im sure surfaces is the same as on3p.

Dec 26 2010 1:58AM

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thats funny because today on my skis (moment reno jibs) i hit rails all day, from 9 till 2:30, and you know what, not a single edge crack. no ski after a few days of riding rails should have like 10 edge cracks.

if surface skis were "just as durable" then why are people complaining about the shitty quality? now isnt that a good question. no ski after 1 season of riding park should break unless you are really fucking good. in spencer's case that was ridiculous. tail snapping after 1 season? edges cracks after 1 day? doesnt that want you to question the durability of surface?

Dec 26 2010 2:10AM

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The only complains have been from dip shit kids like you and other stupid spoiled 15 year olds on this site who thinks everything should be indestructible. And your edges will crack. And if you're 15 and 90lbs maybe your edges will crack slower, it all depends on the skier too.

And no ski should break after a season? Are you kidding me? They're made of wood not a fucking magical substance. Some are defects, some are kids who ski really hard and some are just unlucky situations where they happened to land on the ski just perfect and exert the right amount for force to break the ski. You fucking kids should just shut up, your parents buy you new skis anyway, it doesn't matter. You and everyone else's 15 year old filth on this website makes me want to kill babies.

Dec 26 2010 2:16AM

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ok, age doesnt really matter. i know skis arent indestructible, all park skis will break eventually. yes unless you are really fucking good as stated in my previous post, no ski should break after 1 season. im guessing the average park rat on NS get about 30 - 40 days, maybe 50 in a season, depending where you ski.

surface even admitted their park skis have issues. they didnt do anything about it.

so get off your fucking high horse and go ski a park ski that will last more than 1 season before getting 15 edge cracks on each sidewall and each ski. that means, go ski an armada, k2, moment, volkl ski for a year. then you will finally realize that surface's quality sucks.

Dec 26 2010 2:24AM

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Actually they did, the double time is new, very beefy, and they improved the no times.

And every ski you mentioned will last the average park skier (if they aren't a pussy and actually ski) only a season. Every pair of armada, salomon, k2(line) park skis ive used have been fucked after a season. Stop repeating yourself.

And high horse? Wrong term there buddy, im being defensive because i think surface gets way to harsh of a reputation on NS and im here to change that by proving all you little fuck heads wrong and open your damn eyes and realize any park ski will get fucked up if you ski park, period. kindly go fuck off.

Dec 26 2010 2:29AM

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its not worth arguing since you will not change my opinion about surface. all i know is that i will NEVER buy a surface park ski, a pow ski maybe, but most definitely not a park ski.

Dec 26 2010 2:33AM

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Thats fine, keep riding your stupid rockered park skis.

And age does matter, because i was 15 once and i was fucking stupid just like you. You think you're smart, but you're not, i thought i was too.

Dec 26 2010 2:34AM

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i already told you that my skis arent rockered. ive got reno jibs, they arent rockered. this proves your stupidity.

Dec 26 2010 2:35AM

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Im with eheath on this one.

No ski will last a hole season of park beating.

Now i dont think edges should crack after 4 days but after 30 days? You bound to have some.

Dec 26 2010 2:36AM

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Kangbang$ --> eheath
too bad moment makes quality skis. btw, my skis are rockered

Dec 26 2010 2:45AM

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damn it. i meant they werent rockered.

Dec 26 2010 2:46AM

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It's okay, good battle. I miss full out battles on NS.

Dec 26 2010 2:49AM

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ok.

Dec 26 2010 2:53AM

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This, I've been lucky to get more than one year out of my park skis but from watching other people go through skis, getting a full year out of park skis is a good thing. When skis are hitting rails all day every day for 20, 30, or 40 days, the skis are bound to get worn down. When two metal objects are constantly hitting each other, one of them is going to break eventually. Is it shitty that some of them have snapped? Yeah of course, but I've seen snapped skis from plenty of other companies.

Dec 26 2010 3:08AM

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I ski around 120+ days a year and around 80 of those are in the park.

I have never had a pair last me a full season.

Dec 26 2010 4:43AM

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Maximumsushi

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Absolutely.

For the past three seasons, I've skied 160-180 days per season. In that time, I've broken 6 pairs of skis. They were all park skis except one pair of fatter Armada 2008 JJs. Sometimes, you snap cores, crack edges, delam, blow out sidewalls, or thrash bases on the first few days you own a pair of skis. Sometimes that takes 30 days, sometimes that takes 100 days. Sometimes it takes 250 days. But it happens. It happens to every single pair of skis I've ever had.

(I've sold skis I've hated or if I happen to get a free pair of newer skis. I sold a pair of el rays because I absolutely hated the way they rode and didn't think I'd do well with a pair of sidewall skis. I also gave my cousin a pair of OG 1080s because I wasn't skiing extremely hard when I outgrew them, 8 or 9 years ago.)

I've been skiing on twins since the 1080 hit the market. I've owned about 15 pairs of twins in that time. Out of any ski brand I've ever owned, Surface is the one I will give my full support to. It's the only ski company that I can fully get behind and honestly tell people they should buy their skis over any other brand. I had a pair of Live Life IIs for over 250 days of riding. That's fucking insane. And it's not like I babied the skis. I rode them in the park 100+ plus, through early season rocks, and even hit a few urban rails on them. After all that time, the ski is just beginning to delam in the tails, and there are 2 edge cracks. I could continue to ride them, but I replaced them with a pair of updated Live Lifes. Surface Skis are fucking AWESOME.

I'm sure some people have cracked edges after a few days of riding, that's bound to happen. I'm surprised though that people think this isn't going to happen. How long have you been skiing park? I guess only a few years. You're probably still growing too. As you get heavier, and more aggressive, you're going to wreck skis if you continue to do it on a regular basis. Take any young teenager's personal advice and opinion on ski durability with less than a grain of salt. They've no frame of reference or relevant experience.

Dec 26 2010 5:51PM

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Eheath your opinion is biased

Dec 26 2010 6:03PM

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Still saddling up BigSpences dick I see?

Dec 26 2010 11:29PM

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All I have to say is that I love my double times.

Dec 26 2010 11:48PM

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ReetsAdeets

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Damn, eheaths on his period...

Dec 27 2010 2:13AM

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Thats fucking incredible that your skis lasted that long. I may have to pick up a pair of surfaces when my ar7s die.

Im only 14 years old and in the past 3 seasons i have snapped a pair of suspects, blow out a sidewall on my chronics, snapped the tip on my ar6s, delamed a pair of Villian pros, snapped the tail on my alphas and trashed the bases so hard on a pair of walls that they were unfixable.

Damn i just realized ive been breaking skis since i was 11.

Dec 27 2010 4:12AM

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This.

I broke a pair of nine life's in NZ at the end of the 2010 season there, and that was after a full season in north america as well, so 100+ days on them. I used them for everything. i bought another pair of no times this year and absolutely love them. they are super light and easy to whip around. its not like surface skis are a unreasonable price either. ill happily buy another pair when the time comes.

Jan 4 2011 12:38AM

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Codfish.

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I broke 3 Pairs of Surface Nine Lifes within 2 months due to edges cracking, about 4 days after the edges started cracking behind the bindings started to become weak and on all 3 pairs behind the binding cracked. But to Surfaces defense their warrantee has been great and i am stoked to mount up my No Times because while they have lasted they have been the most fun ski i have ever been on

Jan 4 2011 2:31AM

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This.

And on the skis, I picked them up this year and love them they are the most playful ski I have used and other than the average top sheet chipping have had no durability issues.

GET THEM!!!

Jan 4 2011 3:26PM

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