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RIOTs over increasing TUITION

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Phormat
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Dec 10 2010 2:32AM
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Dntel.
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your point being?
Dec 10 2010 2:32AM
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Phormat
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just showing the riots. i'm not british, but i thought it was powerful to see the conflict
Dec 10 2010 2:40AM
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dex.
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it was like a warzone. 1:42 horse stomps dude lulz
Dec 10 2010 2:43AM
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thugaim
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I've always been proud of the British and their joy of rioting.
Dec 10 2010 2:43AM
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Lioncourt
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white people can't riot for shit.
Dec 10 2010 2:47AM
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XtRemE11
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fuck yes, that looks like such a good time, i wanna be in a riot so bad!
Dec 10 2010 3:16AM
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Arabian.
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You have to know the story of how England has arbitrarily just doubled tuition for students, despite no clear evidence why, and with no great increase in quality of teaching or amenities. I'd riot, too. Good on them for standing up to the school systems.
Dec 10 2010 3:30AM
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Thenowhereman42
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Yeah its a lot easier to riot when the cops don't have shotguns pointed at you.
Dec 10 2010 3:32AM
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rudeboy
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TREBLED in some cases!! was 3.2 grand (in pounds per year), in 2012 its gonna go up to 6 grand, but some courses will be 9 grand (im guessing lab ie science courses). Funny though, cos in the US, colleges are way more expensive. Id be pissed too though 3.2 to 9 is a big leap
Dec 10 2010 6:57AM
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fujarome
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the whole process has been completely stupid by all involved. The tuition increases have no reason for existing, but the students protesting were equally stupid. How much respect do you think you're going to get when literally every protest of yours erupts into a riot almost immediately? They didn't even last 15 minutes as a peaceful protest yesterday. Ridiculous.

there are also huge program cuts. It's a bit like the govt saying "unless you're studying science, we don't need you."


speaking of which, I'm only here on a study abroad program, so I need some help from any english uni students. I got a 67 on an essay, and I'm not entirely sure if thats good or bad. I just know the grading works differently here.
Dec 10 2010 7:02AM
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.Tom.
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These riots were really damaging to the movement, students lost a lot of the sympathy we had after this minority behaved like fucking idiots.
Just so you know, the tuition raise was passed by 20 votes around 2 days ago.
Oh and in terms of education standards rising and stuff, i think I might clarify how these tuition rises work. Basically, government subsidizes tuition fee's largely in the Uk, all these cuts are doing are removing some of that subsidy. Therefore the university has to raise fee's in order to make up the difference, in the end they aren't recieving any more money, the Government is just saving money.
Hopefully that makes sense, I can never get my point across on the internet.
Dec 10 2010 7:04AM
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JosephStalin
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I feel so bad for those police officers.
Dec 10 2010 7:19AM
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fujarome
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at least police officers here got to give rioters a good ol' fashioned beatdown with a club. In the US they get those paintball-like guns, but over here its more hands-on beating. Must be more satisfying.
Dec 10 2010 7:24AM
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flexpattern
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A lot of my friends went yesterday, apparently it was a load of anarchists and right wing thugs causing a lot of the violence. To be far i can't be bothered with it all as i should finish uni by the time the rises actually come into force. However the government have really fucked shit up this time, less than 10 years ago all of university tuition was free in england! I'm pretty angry about it all!
Dec 10 2010 7:34AM
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Abc567def
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I feel bad for the horse, they were having boards and stuff thrown at their legs
Dec 10 2010 8:24AM
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disastertourism
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I'm just happy I don't plan on going to University at all, however, scottish people are still getting free HE education, yet England is making it harder to be able to afford it.
All the scottish universities are going to have rediculous waiting lists, and everyone in England is going to be a jobless person, draining money with the dole.
Good old world this is, eh?
Dec 10 2010 9:52AM
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soulskier
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i'm all for rebelling against the british, but
Dec 10 2010 10:05AM
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gordie.
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mounted police are the most badass thing in a riot

they're probably one of the best tactics to use to really break a crowd. just having a line of mounted cops is pretty intimidating
Dec 10 2010 10:05AM
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dbstar
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the evidence why is clear.
Dec 10 2010 10:06AM
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SteezoSaurus
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No its just because our cops have guns. They have sticks.
Dec 10 2010 10:11AM
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fujarome
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thats why police forces they still have them. perfect for crowd control. Line them up and walk towards the crowd, and they can pretty much control exactly where they move. Surprisingly, bicycles are also fairly effective at this somehow.
Dec 10 2010 10:21AM
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JamesR
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I hate England.
Dec 10 2010 11:41AM
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beezey
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Poor horses, I wuv them
Dec 10 2010 11:59AM
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nickyp
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*tripled.

From £3,000 to £9,000. It may not sound like alot in comparison to US fees, but don't forget that we do not have a bursary system like the US, and £9,000 is roughly 50% of the average yearly wage
Dec 10 2010 12:11PM
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Holte
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Americans students would be partying in the streets if there was a £9000 cap on tuition.
Dec 10 2010 12:12PM
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dmc12380
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it truly is, who wants to hold their ground in front of a horse. One swift kick and there hoove would crush your skull
Dec 10 2010 12:17PM
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dicksaddock
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but it doesnt matter cos if people dont value uni @ 9k a year they wont pay. simples.
Dec 10 2010 12:17PM
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antwone
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looks fun
Dec 10 2010 12:30PM
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Arabian.
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tripled in extreme cases, doubled in most.
Dec 10 2010 12:33PM
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EC-Skier
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lolz
Dec 10 2010 12:37PM
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Brenone
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/riot_rocks_royals_Gvou3YAdhx4r7lJAnyWTUL

Here are some pics and some vids of The Royals in their limo while its going down
Dec 10 2010 1:05PM
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howlongcanausern
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you mean I gotta pay money for a good education......this is what happens when entitlement programs run rampant.
Dec 10 2010 3:05PM
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XtRemE11
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Dec 10 2010 3:34PM
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Arabian.
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You want to get laid, you go to college. You want an education, you get a library card.

- Frank Zappa.
Dec 10 2010 3:46PM
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silex
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you just need something to scare the horses
Dec 10 2010 3:50PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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You want a job, go to college.

- Common sense.
Dec 10 2010 6:02PM
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yeahno
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fire on crowd. teach them their punk hipsterness has consequences

Dec 10 2010 6:05PM
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Arabian.
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if you want a DECENT job, you go to college. If you want a GREAT job, you don't need college. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and many other smart people didn't graduate from college. All you need to succeed is a good mind and a good idea.
Dec 10 2010 10:35PM
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bryansbryan
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someone needs to get those officers some guns. mow down those pussy, hippy freeloaders. throwing paint, what a bunch of sally asses.
Dec 10 2010 10:57PM
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dbstar
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lol horrible examples... bill gates dropped out of harvard after spending time with genius computer scientists and steve jobs, who also dropped out, said if he never went to college at all the mac would never have existed.
Dec 11 2010 1:19AM
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ch@se
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Looks fun!
Dec 11 2010 1:46AM
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Arabian.
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But they didn't get their jobs because of a degree, which is what what's his face up there was insinuating. They were smart, and they knew what they wanted to do. They took and exploited a niche that Xerox was too fucking stupid to cash in on even though they were sitting on all the basic tech.
Dec 11 2010 1:48AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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You're just talking about luck.
Dec 11 2010 1:48AM
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howlongcanausern
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first time I've heard of anybody implying that not going to college will bring multi-billion dollar success
Dec 11 2010 12:21PM
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fujarome
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yea I wouldn't quite drop out of college immediately because 2 people got super-rich by doing it.

There's also countless CEOS, doctors, lawyers, and so forth who live quite well due to going to extra schooling beyond basic college...
Dec 11 2010 12:24PM
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theBearJew
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I wish there were more riots in America.
Dec 11 2010 12:54PM
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flexpattern
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riots in america seem to end with several people dead. Go big or go home!
Dec 11 2010 1:31PM
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Peter.
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THIS is a great THREAD
Dec 11 2010 1:37PM
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vailsux.com
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no.
Dec 11 2010 2:25PM
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bistroburrito
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I was at a riot in Athens Greece a few years ago for the same deal...I was like 13, shitting bricks cause it was scary cause I didn't want to get tear gased
Dec 11 2010 5:05PM
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