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Re: the article Where to Buy Gas
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Does anybody else see a bunch of problems with this article. I mean how could it be considering the Saudi government a terrorist organization or even a sponsor of terrorism when they are an ally of the U.S. and Western nations and have condemned and fought terrorism. I mean Saudi princes aren't really out blowing up buildings, they are having dinner with President Bush and training horses to win the Kentucky Derby. Sure a few Saudis are terrorists, but the country is one of our most important allies and trading partners.
I guess its not really suprising to be hearing that completely false and twisted propaganda from an organization like the Begin Group. An Israeli nationalist organization obviously wants us to stop buying Saudi oil, because their greatest joy would be to see the Saudi economy destroyed and the people starving to death (kind of like the Palestinians, eh? but thats another issue). In my mind we shouldn't do anymore to validate the opinions of a group that promotes violence and destruction than we would to validate the opinions of a terrorist group.
Another thing, you think prices will somehow go down if a few people go to the Conoco instead of the Amoco. The U.S. is heavily dependent on gasoline, no matter which station you buy it from. A few hundred, hell a few thousand people changing their preference won't do a thing to the world oil market. Honestly, Exxon-Mobil isn't really going to care if you spend your 10 bucks somewhere else because they will still make hundreds of billions of dollars a year and these oil compaines will still bring in and spit out more cash each year than entire countries do in ten years. The fact that your gas station lowered its prices was based on the crude oil prices that are standard worldwide and fluctuate frequently. A lot of things affect this, terrorism, the time of year, economic and political factors, but definitely not some piece of propaganda issued by some Israelis that is passed around amongst some people in Ohio. Perhaps the most far-fetched comment, because it has already been proved false, is that your gas prices went down because you stopped buying Saudi oil. When we stopped buying Saudi oil in the 1970's the United States economy was literally devastaed and people waited in line for hours to pay 4 or 5 bucks for a gallon of gas. Without the Oil States like Saudi Arabia we simply don't have enough oil, so for now we are dependent on them.
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very well said, obviously a very well thought out and researched post.
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yea gas is such an inelastic item. people have to buy it so they can goto work and make money to eventually spend on more gas and no one is going to drive farther jsut to buy gas from a different company its just not logical
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A friend sent the article to me and yes you have to buy gas but what the article is trying to say is that you can buy it from other places that don't import it.
Some of what g_dubs said was true but not all of it.
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Actually, I drive farther if the gas is cheaper. When you are filling your tank and the gas is $.05 cheaper a gallon, I will def. go the extra mile.
I was really looking forward to reading this, because after reading the article myself I saw many holes in it yet I was way too lazy to write most of the stuff I was thinking out. Thanks for setting everyone straight. One more thing...the gas/oil market is very elastic. Depending on relations between different countries Isreal....Saudi...other middle eastern countries the oil prices can skyrocket or drop. The Alaskan Oil Pipeline should minimize these jumps in the market, yet nothing can be concrete in this day and age.
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The Alaskan pipeline will do nothing to solve our oil/gas problem. There isn't enough gas to come even close to making the US self-sufficient. Estimates say that drilling in Alaska will only supply us with less than 10% of what we already use. The only solution will be the development of alternative fuel sources that are cost efficient to those who manufacture them.
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yeah zoltyi you are right that the Alaskan Pipeline won't make a huge deal and end our reliance on oil imports, but what will was sayign is it will jst help to stabalize prices because OPEC can't jerk us around the way they can now because we need pretty much all our oil from them. Like if they decide they want to double prices for the next few months because they are pissed about the Israel situation, if we had the Alaskan pipeline we could get a good percentage of the oil we needed for a while, so the OPEC nations would lose business and have to lower prices. I mean I am just as concerned as the next guy about the environmental issues, but it really is one of the smarter things Bush has pledged to do. I hope he gets back to it though because it seems like nobody even cares about politics not dealing with terrorism and the Middle East anymore.
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Yeah I understand what you are saying g-dubs but the Alaskan Pipeline wont even be operational for another ten years after it gets full approval and it will take another five or so to become fully operational. So with Alaska you are looking at 15 years minimum but alternative fuel sources could be implemented now and become mainstream in much less time.
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thast true it isn't as immediate, but there will also be a buffer zone where the adjustments must be made for the alternative fuel to be adaptable in the places we use it most. Either way, its a somewhat lengthy process.
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I meant to say demand for gas is inelastic yo
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zoltyi- I understand alternative power sources (wind, solar, nuclear, etc.), but what are you thinking of for an alternative to oil (for gasoline). I mean there are plenty of other ways to power a car like battery powered and whatnot, I mean there is even a prototype of a car that can run just off water, but they are all really expensive and impractical right nowand the U.S. government, auto companies, gas companies, gas station companies, etc. are all blocking any full on move away from a gas powered car.
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yes the US goverment is making almost $.9 per gallon in taxes off you
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it's all about the hydrogen car... it is a simple mod to a gas tank of a diesel engine car... and it'll run just the same... fueling is the only problem.
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Ski_Instructor has it right. Hydrogen is the way to go. It's simple to modify cars, it's cheap and the only biproduct/pollutant is water.
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