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Best way to reallly dull edges

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HERCULES.
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yeah so this is a repost but i need legit help. whats the best way to dull factory new edges without damaging the edge? Im used to having my 4 year old skis with litterally rounded edges and now im skiing with swords and cant do anything. I could bring em to a shop but all they eve do is hit them with the machine at a 45 angle and it doesent help much. Soo whats the best way to get them reall dull without taking to much metal off? I been wondering
Dec 1 2010 5:21PM
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pussymoneyweed
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take a file, like a big one your dad might have on his work bench and do some werk
Dec 1 2010 5:22PM
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ben-jamm-in
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ski down cheese graters
Dec 1 2010 5:30PM
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Parker.
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use a gummy stone
http://www.backcountry.com/swix-gummy-stone
Dec 1 2010 5:35PM
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tinkytwinky
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metal file, they are like 10$ at your local shop, it will take awhile for two whole skis though.
Dec 1 2010 5:40PM
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nychka
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sandpaper but you have to be careful to not remove too much edge material
Dec 1 2010 6:06PM
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Mr.Huck
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Again with the file thing?!?!?!?!  I gotta say that this is getting old.  I believe OP said he did not want to cause permanent damage to his edges.  Once more, please take the time to watch my vid "How to dull your edges".  I know that being a little over 7 minutes long, it is a little tough on everyone's ADD.  If you can sit still long enough to watch it, you will learn how to dull your edges quickly at a cost of about $1.50.  You will also learn how to tell if your brand new skis are edge high or railed from warping during the cooling process.  This will cause the problems you describe and taking a file to the edges won't do shit to help that. 
Dec 1 2010 6:10PM
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E.FARR
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i tune my edges on a rock...and a shovel...a rusty one...worked surprisingly well...
Dec 1 2010 6:17PM
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fratskier69
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if you dull it, your 'damaging it' so you have no choice
Dec 1 2010 7:03PM
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Parker.
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Courtesy of Newschoolers.com
Dec 1 2010 7:14PM
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Frankensteeze
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The more you ski, the duller your edges will be.
Dec 1 2010 7:15PM
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MADDECENT
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uh...hit rails.
Dec 1 2010 7:20PM
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brendo.
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Dull edges bud not core shots
Dec 1 2010 7:29PM
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jason...
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do this.
Dec 1 2010 7:30PM
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bdowning
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I smell a cranky pants!

I have used a file on my skis for as long as I can remember. It does more then a good enough job.  Best part about it is you can take it with you, if you need to file down an urban or something.  Bam!

File the edges, its easy as pie.

Dec 2 2010 12:22PM
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1skier
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if you have a grinder that works if your careful. i would not reccomend using a screwdriver just because you could chip ur edges. sandpaper works very well
Dec 2 2010 12:28PM
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titsLOL
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You're sounding like a nerd. I use rocks in the parking lot usually if they are too sharp, but usually I just suck it up and ski them into dullness. If you are just a little cautious you can smash em down in a day of park lapping. Do lots of switch ups to hit the other side.
Dec 2 2010 12:33PM
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Willard
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threads for da new sticks and that video
Dec 2 2010 12:35PM
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pow314
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hey! i know! learn how to ski.......
Dec 2 2010 1:43PM
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cfox
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grind rails dipshit
Dec 2 2010 1:58PM
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Mr.Huck
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I am a nerd and sometimes a "cranky pants" too, but I have worked in shops before and have tuned and detuned tons of skis.  If you guys want to go at your edges with a flat file; do it.  
Dec 2 2010 2:08PM
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KyleA
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If you didn't want to cause "permanent damage" to your edges, you should probably not hit rails. 

And to the OP, I use either a file or an angle grinder.   I don't think many people like taking an angle grinder to their brand new skis though, so a file should do the trick. 
Dec 2 2010 2:17PM
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Mr.Fister
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this
Dec 2 2010 2:24PM
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Elmo.
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hike some rails for a little bit and ull be all set.
Dec 2 2010 2:28PM
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Malcolm
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i bought some of those after watching your video last year. such a good idea
Dec 2 2010 2:32PM
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B.Aussie
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This ^
Or use a gummy stone, takes very little edge of and gets the job done aswell as taking off rust.

I think more to the point, don't use a file because it takes off way too much edge and can make the skis very hard to normal ski. Also if you're looking to resell then a gummy or how the video says is probably your best bet because of the little edges that are taken off, and it takes it off a lot straighter than using just a metal file which can cause a lot of harm. By all means do whatever you want, just know the implications of each type before you try one.
Dec 2 2010 2:34PM
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neapolitan
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aon my ski i used  a base grinder to dull the edges.  Jujust swivel the ski to make sure it gets round and do it fast so you do not lose all you edge with one swipe.  it is a bi risk with the fact that you could end up taking a lot of edge off then you wanted to, but if you do it right you have the roundest edges on the south side of the mississippi!  haha my friend and i came up with the idea and  its worked with great success. only do it under the foot so you don lose the carving ability when you decide not to ride park.  I love em!
Dec 2 2010 2:42PM
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Skummit_559
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one of the best parts about getting new park skis is the easy scissoring that comes with not having completley dulled edges. Enjoy the grip while it lasts.
Dec 2 2010 2:58PM
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shibby
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LOL at machines that polish edges at 45 degress. The fuck?

And I would never buy skis from NS after reading all the shit you guys do to your edges. Files? Smashing rocks? Skiing through the parking lot? No thanks.
Dec 2 2010 3:05PM
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Justo8484
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me too. a flat file is the quickest, easiest way to dull your edges underfoot to slide rails. i don't know what you're talking about with this irreversible damage stuff. when i buy a park ski, i buy it with the expectation that i am going to slide rails with it, i don't want to stick to them, and the skis will last me a season, or maybe two if i am lucky. aside from snapping cores and delamming tips and tails, irreversible damage is part of the game.
Dec 2 2010 3:18PM
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philipc
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shoot your edges with a gun
Dec 2 2010 3:37PM
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PurpleDino
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diamond files work almost better than a metal file because they aren't vibrating the edge as much
Dec 2 2010 3:44PM
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funkmaster
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angle grinder for a fast job, file for slow and painstaking
Dec 2 2010 3:45PM
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RubberSoul
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this thread was helpful AND funny. A+
Dec 27 2010 2:37PM
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Dwight_Schrute
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fine terry cloth (pretty much metal sandpaper).
Dec 27 2010 2:44PM
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tbayskier
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For people with brand new park skis dulling edges  slightly before hitting rails is a good  idea.  This can be done preferably with a gummy stone, and  should probably not be super aggressively done if the skier wants to be able to hold an edge on harder snow. The gummy stone should be ran all along the edge, but particular attention should be paid to segment of edge under the foot. For those who are concerned about taking files to their beat up park ski edges....think about hitting a rail.  It's like hitting your skis with a metal pipe. Therefore, if you file down your edges a bit after hitting rails for a while, you probably won't do much more harm, you'll just make the edge wear more even. This will make it harder to catch up on rails.


Sparksnotes: -Gummy stone your new park whips, especially underfoot.
-File down old skis that will be used primarily for rails, to make the wear more even.

That got convoluted, sorry guys.

 
Dec 27 2010 5:41PM
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I.B
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EVERYONE I don't dull my edgs. I just hit rails and let them dull them selvs. Whats skiing without falling?

I mean i slay on snowlersleds and i don't dull those bitchs.
Dec 27 2010 6:04PM
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Pmoore
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dude taking a file to your edges doesnt damage them.... I have used a god damn grinder before.
Dec 27 2010 7:01PM
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HERCULES.
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haha my threads back! and now that my edges are tuned to the way i like them (no edge atall) i have this advice.

Get a shop detune and then let them naturally detune on rails in the park. No files or rocks or any of that shit. I had mine shop detuned and got mad because they were still to sharp for my liking so then i hit them with a file real good and they got no better and i just took a whole bunch of meatal off my skis. No matter what you do they need to neturally detune so done fucks with them files or rocks

Dec 27 2010 8:51PM
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arandomname
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You sound like you don't ever even leave the park.  Why would you want no edge at all?  A file would do a more than good enough job... at least good enough where you won't be able to restore the edge back to where it was when you got the skis.  Why didn't you just use a gummi stone?  It works better.  Or do what Mr. Huck does.
Dec 27 2010 9:18PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
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i just pull my edges out when i get new skis. theyre pointless unless you like riding ice or pipe
Dec 27 2010 11:49PM
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ReignMan
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i enjoy ur vids. thanks man.
Dec 27 2010 11:52PM
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Crispy.
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For a gummy stone do i hold the stone at an angle or straight up and down?
Aug 10 2011 8:32PM
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.ZT.
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i have to sharpen my edges cuz i live on the ice coast
Aug 10 2011 8:38PM
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.ZT.
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but in soviet russia edges dull you....................
Aug 10 2011 8:54PM
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Cult_Leader
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thats what i  do, works well
Aug 10 2011 9:03PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Checking the edge bevel and base flatness is certainly a good thing to do, on any pair of skis that seem a little strange or squirrely, but for most of NS... we're talking knocking down the edge underfoot so that you dont catch a frontside edge on a rail and faceplant on the donkey dick. A file works fine for this purpose - no need to preserve edge if you're going to slide rails and probably replace the ski the following year anyways.
Aug 10 2011 9:03PM
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-AP-
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at an angle, otherwise you're practically sharpening them.
Aug 10 2011 9:03PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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Rock n' Roll.
Aug 10 2011 9:11PM
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Trojan~Man
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hit rails.......
Aug 10 2011 9:12PM
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OCM
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and get SHOTTSSS
Aug 10 2011 9:55PM
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