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Really? snow plow?

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cultrara
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in the park, ive seen alot of people snow plow before hitting a rail or something to slow down. Is it that people find that easier than doing a short parallel turn or do people in the park just not know how to ski. Imo relying on the old snow plow is a sign of some one who isnt a strong skier. What do other ns'rs think?

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Nov 28 2010 8:54PM
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Static
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Because every professional skier acts all high and might about it.

arrogant douche.
Nov 29 2010 6:37PM
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cultrara
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i just think its ironic that alot of skiers strive to look steezy in the park, but yet snow plow. if you really dont care then you dont have to read the thread
Nov 29 2010 6:38PM
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84891jnf92048
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the difference is that landing well reflects how well you can execute the trick, how you slow down does not.
Nov 29 2010 6:41PM
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how was it totally unnecessary? Was just sharing what influenced my point of view. And I never said otherwise to the pro skier comment, but thanks again for judging me because I used to race.
Nov 29 2010 6:43PM
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cultrara
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imo the trick is the whole thing, including the approach.  i think that snow plowing looks worse, but doesnt make the trick any less advanced

Nov 29 2010 6:45PM
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GayWolf420
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Yeah. I'm more worried on the execution and look of a trick rather than how I slow down. People are starting to care too much about the little things. Whats next? People caring about how someone carries their skis?
Nov 29 2010 6:45PM
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RubberSoul
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haha.. yep
Nov 29 2010 6:46PM
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84891jnf92048
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yes. over your shoulder, toe piece goes first, behind your shoulder, without skis sicssored.
Nov 29 2010 6:48PM
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GayWolf420
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I usually do the brief case hold. Skis in hand and poles in the other. I only throw them over my shoulder during semi-long to long walks. Or when I am hiking.
Nov 29 2010 6:50PM
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RubberSoul
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pfffft, first thing i learned when i bought propaganda way back when was how to look great while hiking/carrying your skis. that's skiing 101, learn that THEN worry about the basics of jumping
Nov 29 2010 6:53PM
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Jibberino
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This is an absolute fail thread. Most of the time it's prob a mental thing doing those little quick snowplows, it is for me anyway. But who the fuck cares! I mean really, are we nitpicking this much now? I do freeskiing because i dont want some cocky pseudo pro telling me what i can or cannot do when im skiing. I guess pro's don't do it because they are just that good at judging their speed. I'm not, just another difference between me and a pro. Point is, just do whatever the fuck you want, and don't care about douchy orange names spewing elitist tirades about how you should approach a feature. Christ.
Nov 29 2010 6:57PM
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CT_CREW
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I really disagree with you here. this thread is nothing at all like debating what kind of clothes people should wear ( which I agree is pretty trivial ). This thread is all about skill level to me. Specifically how a skiers skill level makes him/her more enjoyable to watch ski.

It is the same concept in any action sport. If I am watching a skateboarder do a street line I want to see him bomb a hill and do a bad-ass power slide inbetween features, not put his foot down to break or something like that. If I'm watching a skier in the park I would love to a see a kid nollie off a roller, land switch, carve a turn into a sw 270 on, and stomp while carving a turn away.

Bottom line for me.....Its all about having the skill to do your trick at multiple speed levels and body positions, you don't want to always throw in that unconsious snowplow in order to put you in that exact same comfort zone each time.

-anyone dig?-
Nov 29 2010 7:42PM
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cool.
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this this this this this. couldn't of said it any better.
Nov 29 2010 7:53PM
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Oreos
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nailed it.
Nov 29 2010 9:26PM
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brf726
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As an instructor for the past three years, I've taught the "Pizza"  to just about every kid I get who has never skied before.  Also, the PSIA learning model includes the wedge as a fundamental part of beginning skiing.  First you learn wedge turns, then wedge-christies, then parallel turns.

The Snowplow/Pizza/Wedge is an essential part of learning to ski.


Nov 29 2010 9:43PM
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84891jnf92048
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i agree, the snowplow is incredibly useful. BUT, the most modern way of teaching is going straight from shuffling around and becoming comfortable on skis, to learning to control speed by making parallel turns. my dad is also i high-level PSIA instructor, and my home mountain teaches every kid how to ski this way first, then teaches the snowplow as a tool on how to slow down in other situations.


thats beside the point though. i dont care if someone snowplows to control their speed into a jump/rail. sometimes, especially in rutted out soft snow, it is the only way to slow down.
Nov 29 2010 9:48PM
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