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you took the words right out of my mouth, bump
To clear things up. The NEW Fulltilt liners are designed to "heat mold" at a cooler temperature. Therefore, after 6-7 days in them, they will mold almost as good as they would using the machine. I believe that the older Fulltilts (such as these ones) heat mold at a hotter temperature. Therefore they will mold after a certain number of days in them, but not as nicely as the newer ones, or as using a machine.
I hope that made sense.