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No JOSS, JOI with new format.

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Timlife
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From Jon's Blog:

The events in Åre has always had its main focus on the riders, so when we asked them what they wanted and 9 out of 10 said the same thing it was a pretty easy decision, JOSS will take a one year break and give room for an “all in” Big Air event- JOI will be back just like in 2007 to give the guys the best possibilities ever to learn new tricks and push the limits to what can be done!

It seemed that most guys had been missing the unique possibilities that they had during JOI 2007, where they had one kicker to session for a week enabling them to really progress and figure new things out as we as organizers had more time to perfect one kicker instead of trying to build 5 of them. As the ski world always wants new things I thought it was a good year to do this to give JOSS a breather so it could come back fresh again for next year. I think it would be a perfect concept to alternate JOSS and JOI every year t keep it fresh and exciting!

New for this year is that invite system, 15 riders will be invited and another 15 spots will be open for video qual. As you know we have always wanted to give “up and comers” the chance to qual to JOI, but I think having 50% of the start field qual through video will really change things up!

Since we all know judging and formats has been a bit of an issue this year I have thought long and hard about what to do with that and I believe that I have come up with a solution that could handle a lot of these issues!

Qual:

-30 skiers take 2 runs, best one counts. 10 moves on. (+ 2 wildcards)

Final:

-12 skiers take one run, top 10 advances

-10 skiers take one run, top 8 advances.

-8 skiers take one run, top 6 advances.

-6 skiers take one run, top 4 advances.

-4 Skiers take two runs, best one counts.

In this way the judges only have to look for the 2 worst skiers every run, which should make things a lot easier to get it right. Then in finals you have room to fall once so you can really bust out your best stuff and go for it! You never know before you tried it, but I am very excited about this format!

Preliminary schedule:

12th of April: Tuesday: Skiers arrive, training 16-21

13th of April Wednesday: Training 16-21

14th of April Thursday: Training 16-21

15th of April Friday: Nations cup 18-21

16th of April Saturday JOI 19-21

17th of April Sunday: Red Bull Home run

18th of April Monday: Departure day.

Hope you guys like it! I know some will miss the JOSS movies, but don’t worry, JOSS will be back next year bigger then ever!

Then again, the best skiers in the works on the same kicker for a week should create some insane skiing, some might remember what JOI 2007 looked like and with how far this sport has come since then I cant even think of what will go down in Åre on the 16thof April! I actually don’t think a dub 12 will get you into finals… [IMG]jon-olsson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif[/IMG]

Sounds pretty sick if you ask me!

Nov 24 2010 6:19AM
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I_liketobutter
Posts: 2664 - Karma: 997
sounds good

put on a legit rail jam too, besides rail to riches there isn't really a rail jam competition in skiing today, its a shame.
Nov 24 2010 2:33PM
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I_liketobutter
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^pro level rail jam that is
Nov 24 2010 2:33PM
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OMGHEDIDNT
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Jesus what's up up with all the Jon Olsson dick riding?! I think it sucks that Joss isn't being organized this year. For me it's the coolest skiing event of the year and I always extremely enjoy the edits and look forward to it immensely. Who cares about yet another big jump contest. Really?! I watch Joss and don't even watch any other contests besides maybe Xgames and red bull linecather. Joss has such a wider reach. I think Jon is underestimating the impact of this decision. There are a lot of people that enjoy skiing videos but don't give a flying fuck about some big-air contest (even if there's a lot of trips and dubs)

Jon please think about this decision some more, the make a video format is so much cooler than ant other contest. I can see that this maybe is better for the riders. And your event has always been an event for riders I guess, but ultimately all the contests and all the sponsoring is to serve the crowd. I don't think that this is the best way to serve the crowd, skier yess, crowd no.

I'm disappointed to say the least.
Nov 24 2010 3:14PM
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BITS
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looking so much forward to that...
Nov 24 2010 3:30PM
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Mike-O
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It's a one year break, quit your moaning. You're still going to get hours of completely free footage of 15 of the creme de la creme of professional "trick" skiers plus an additional 15 wild cards. For free. Nonetheless, he's trying to mix up the usual format of JOI and it's a great opportunity for many a skier to get their names out there.

I think it's so inane to bitch about free entertainment and events, especially when we still are, although rising to the surface of interest, a niche sport. JOSS really could use a break, with the terrible judging and unclear rules - a lot of people were unhappy and this year can only be good for Super Sessions.
Nov 24 2010 3:47PM
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jason...
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the jon olsson dick riding is because everyone has been asking for a change in competition format and jon is doing exactly that with his own competition. if you dont like it dont watch it.
Nov 24 2010 4:02PM
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ChristianJames
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JOI is gonna be nuts. can't wait to see how big they go! im predicting tripples...
Nov 24 2010 4:03PM
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theJones
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this is exactly what i was thinking, although the event sounds sick, and the 15 video qualifiers is gonna be interesting, i think the current format will lead to a lot of repetition of tricks and conservative jumps for most of the elimination rounds (think king of style).
Nov 24 2010 4:47PM
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OMGHEDIDNT
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I'm not interested in seeing skiers get their name out there, I want to see edits with the world's best skiers. Saying i'm disapointed is bitching?! JOSS has always been the most interesting part of Jon's event for me, i'm just sad to not have that to look forward to this year.

The bitching about competition formats is tiring, the one event that was really different is now more like the shit everyone is bitching about.

and also: I bet ya the 15 riders are gonna be all the usual names.
Nov 24 2010 5:24PM
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Mike-O
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I guess bitching was a bit of a derogatory term here, sorry. I just think a lot was wrong with JOSS this year. Heck, it's even on record how stressful the event is to the guy pulling the strings and trying to keep everyone happy, and even getting slapped in the face by a few competitors in the aftermath.

Maybe this is more like a sabbatical, to let the man rest a bit with only one feature and location to worry about and let the good and improved ideas for the next JOSS sieve through.
Nov 24 2010 5:36PM
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Elg
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gonna be so sick. im driving over there!
Nov 24 2010 5:43PM
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chicken
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I'm so glad. Seriously the year the JOI became one jump and the year after that were insane. So much went down that was just so ahead of the time.
Nov 24 2010 5:54PM
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blindside
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Nov 24 2010 6:05PM
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joshua
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This is a good thing, having one perfect jump as opposed to five great jumps will get much more banger footage. Taking a break from the usual JOSS format is a good idea especially considering all the BS that happened last year.
Nov 24 2010 7:38PM
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fatherb
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At first I was bummed, but the more I think about the more I realize that this could be really good. It would be an insane contest and Jon will definitely deliver
Nov 24 2010 7:42PM
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PeterWojnar
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I wonder if anyone will try to 90-revert-270 in the air again. That alone, no matter how awful it looked, should definitely be enough to put you through a round.
Nov 24 2010 7:43PM
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84west
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This is going to be such a sick event, and i think the format is brilliant, but...
I WANT JOSS!!!
Nov 24 2010 8:02PM
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Ducky.
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Love it. Gonna miss the JOSS edits, but this should keep things interesting!
Nov 24 2010 8:05PM
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Matty_C
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I'm really looking forward to this. When it comes down to it, Jon makes sick jumps so with all of his focus on one jump this year shit's gonna be nuts.

I'm surprised nobody has drawn attention to what I'd imagine to be one of the key factors in this decision: that many of the top filmers and probably skiers too are getting less keen on giving up 2 weeks of prime spring filming time to participate in JOSS when they could be filming park shoots for their film companies, for which they get paid...

Anyway, I think some cool shit is gonna go down for sure!

Nov 24 2010 8:22PM
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SKIU4EA
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lol, true.  And don't worry, your post didn't go unnoticed.
Nov 24 2010 8:46PM
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B.Snow
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This is gonna be sick.. I really hope that there's like a 540 and 720 comp again cause that was so sick last time. Makes it so its not a total dubfest
Nov 24 2010 9:19PM
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WillStart
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that's too bad, the edits were by far the sickest part of the whole thing. that's really what made it unique. glad it will be back next year at least
Nov 24 2010 9:27PM
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BEARS.
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i bet 2 new triples are tried.
Nov 24 2010 9:31PM
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Backyard.Skier
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Jon is the man!
Nov 24 2010 9:53PM
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J-Neal
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i am really gonna miss the joss edits, joss was my favourite event of the year for sure. Although im sure this contest is going to be sick!
Nov 24 2010 9:56PM
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Sallabillz
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this is sick
time to start training HARD lol
Nov 24 2010 10:25PM
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OGHolliday
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Very sick idea.
Still sad I dont get the JOSS edits. those are all great every year,
Nov 24 2010 10:29PM
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Chompo.
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15 open qual. spots will be insane..
Nov 24 2010 11:00PM
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BReed
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SOO down. JOI progressed the sport when the pros would only hit one perfect jump for a whole week. cant wait to see what will get thrown down this year.
Nov 24 2010 11:01PM
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nickharris
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should be pretty sick. like the new format.
Nov 24 2010 11:12PM
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Brenner
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Easy fix:

You're not allowed to do the same trick twice

BAM that will make it a sick comp
Nov 24 2010 11:26PM
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Legoman
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There's no difference apart from a better jump and maybe some less well known riders getting to attend, than from any other big event.

Would actually be progressive if the format was changed like Jacob suggested, JOI would actually have the time to do this as JOSS usually runs for a week or whatever. Could still have the 1 shot wonder mega flip contest alongside it and would see what people prefer
Nov 25 2010 12:02AM
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Chronic_
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last years JOSS edits were incredible but the whole thing ended up turning into a giant shit storm.

This sounds like a very solid idea and I'm excited for JOI to come back. Jon always builds the best jumps, and I have a feeling some serious talent will be thrown down

Nov 25 2010 12:36AM
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ASkierNamedJaymz
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cool idea, will miss the edits like everyone else, but it should be pretty cool  Limiting rounds I think would make it simply magic, like one 5's and 7's only round, or no same trick twice.  With just a little tweaking it will be amazing.
Nov 25 2010 12:52AM
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thelizards
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15 open spots is amazing
Nov 25 2010 1:15AM
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mmallender.
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pretty pumped, this is going to be sick, although i would have to say it would be sicker if each round was given one more run per rider, and then some sort of rule against riders repeating tricks, or at least back to back in a round, or back to back rounds?
Nov 25 2010 1:19AM
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timmmay528
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this is gonna be so sick.
Nov 25 2010 1:27AM
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gnarles.
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stoked but sad no more JOSS vids for a year
Nov 25 2010 1:44AM
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crwstcz
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This contest type is really great. But it's not that new.

Actually, we launched our Big-Air event 3 years ago, in Switzerland, with the exact same battle type.
It's called the Survival of the Fittest.


Good idea to apply this format to JOI, It will bring some fresh stuff for sure.


Nov 25 2010 5:23AM
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ukskier999
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Interesting to see how many of the wildcards go to Swedish riders or if it is a complete free-for-all - which would be really sick. Just based on the KOS comp look at some of the names (for arguments' sake) that weren't in the top 15
16) TJ Schiller
17) Russ Henshaw
18) Tom Wallisch
19) Gus Kenworthy
20) PC Fosse
21) Kim Boberg
22) Ole Christian Mustad
23) Axel Östlund
24) Niklas Eriksson
25) Jesper Tjäder
26) LJ Strenio
27) Linus Tornberg
28) JF Houle
29) Henrik Harlaut
30) Simon Ericson
31) Oscar Wester
32) Niklas Karlsson
33) Oscar Harlaut
Would be awesome to see all those guys' qualifying vids.
Nov 25 2010 7:20AM
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Newschool_Pope
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sick format. jons killin it again. hope to see a huge booter...
Nov 25 2010 8:44AM
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jwhyte
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I think someone should make an event like Street league!
tech section, big kicker, and halfpipe.
same style: 7 attempts every attempt counts.
admit that could get insane!
probably more insane than real street league.
Nov 25 2010 11:00AM
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JStrathern
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Great example of why Jon is the man.
Nov 25 2010 11:52AM
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PeterWojnar
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this would be AWESOME.

Think how cool it would be if there was a dub 12 round before the finals and a no repeating tricks rule so that the finals would be something more than just dub 12 mutes.

Nov 25 2010 7:42PM
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zesty_buddy
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yes! this has to be done.

super looking forward to this comp!

Nov 25 2010 7:59PM
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MaryO
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Me too, and think about all the great edit submissions we'll be seeing from those trying to get in!! A season of killer edits!
Nov 25 2010 8:29PM
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LjayCinema
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this sounds like an overall sick competition. 15 vid qualify spots is gonna bring in a lot of up and comers.

i really hope some more creative shit goes down, rather than dubcork10 after dubcork10 after dubcork10. time will only tell
Nov 25 2010 10:25PM
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B-LUV
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russ henshaw, first place with his triple cork 16 thats it , and a 18 will be murder

Nov 25 2010 10:31PM
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HuckMadTrix
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the sports will progress a couple years worth in a matter of a week. Jon is cementing his legacy as an innovator of not only tricks but comp formats that allow for the quick progression of the sport. x games take notes.
Nov 25 2010 11:01PM
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Relish_man
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get Dylan Ferguson in there and triples will go down!
Nov 25 2010 11:08PM
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