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Backcountry back with "A-Frame" ski carry recommendation

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Shpadoinkle
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What's a good one?

Thanks :)
Nov 16 2010 7:54PM
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Sklar
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from my experience most packs, other than dakine, have a frame carry

what size are you looking for roughly?
Nov 16 2010 7:56PM
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jason...
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just buy dakine, they make the best bags for everything.
Nov 16 2010 7:58PM
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Sklar
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dakine bags are pretty nice, i have 3, but they are not the best for a backcountry ski pack IMO
they don't have any support, and can't do a-frame carry very well
Nov 16 2010 8:15PM
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hippystinx
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black diamond...there what ever model it is now in the 30liter...i have the old convert avalung with has 30l of space and it is one of the best backpacks i have ever owned...
Nov 16 2010 9:58PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Right on, but just because a lot of bags can carry in an A-Frame doesn't make them all good bags.

I will never buy a Dakine bag for "on the mountain" ever again.

As for Black Diamond... I am very interested. I have never used anything Black Diamond so I don't really know what their stuff is like.

Thanks, guys!
Nov 16 2010 10:12PM
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Sklar
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BD makes some nice packs, but i'm not sure if the newer covert has a-frame carry

when i was looking at packs for BC i looked a bunch into ski carry stuff, but i've only had to carry my skis on my back once, so it wasn't that big a deal
Nov 16 2010 10:27PM
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ReetsAdeets
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I have a Mountain Hardwear Dihedral. Its a 42 liter, so maybe a bit biger than what you're looking for, but its an awesome pack in every regard.
Nov 16 2010 11:02PM
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benk
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http://www.backcountry.com/black-diamond-covert-avalung-winter-pack-1343-1953cu-in

I use this pack for all my daily backcountry adventures and it works great. I'm even able to carry all my camera and avy gear in it.

Having a dedicated avy pocket is really nice. Goggle pocket for when you're hiking, and a large main pocket to store layers. I've never had a pack fit so well. and the ski carry system works great


Nov 16 2010 11:23PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Thanks, guys! Definitely think I'm gonna go with a Black Diamond. Cheers.
Nov 16 2010 11:27PM
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benk
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http://www.backcountry.com/black-diamond-outlaw-avalung-pack-1831-1939cu-in?cmp_id=&rrType=ClickEV&rrProd=BLD0381

whoops..I actually use this pack. but I know what how you feel about Dakine. everyone recommends their packs but I've never found one functional or fitting.
Nov 16 2010 11:49PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Yeah, I've only found it helpful on a day-trip on horseback.
Nov 17 2010 12:39AM
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LC.
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Dakine is shitty, agreed. BD Covert is nice - the A-frame side straps are pretty narrow but they still work. The X carry is solid though. BD Outlaw has beefier side straps.
Nov 17 2010 2:46AM
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I_Am_Mod
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ive had a deuter freerider backpack and i've been very happy about it, very big, but after 3y the zippers began to fail :(

why don't you like dakine?

i think they're perfectly suited for short hikes, otherwise, as mentioned above, blackdiamond
or ortovox (quite technical, not always that good looking, but definately quality gear !)

Nov 17 2010 7:04AM
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smuggs
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i just got a Backcountry Access "stash BC"pack for its diagonal carry. never been a fan of a frame but to each their own.

the "mudroom" avi gear pocked is sick and im really glad its cut off from the rest of the pack.

it came with a hydration bladder, and its insulated with "outast"

its very comfy and is bright blue

also its 31L and is sweet for the backcountry, 20L packs are sweet for the lifts and slack.
Nov 17 2010 10:25AM
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J.DUKE
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i will second this notion
Nov 17 2010 11:01AM
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Ski.Ballet
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Deuter Freerider Pro. Way better than Dakine in all aspects
Nov 17 2010 11:33AM
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hippystinx
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http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/ski/snow-packs/outlaw

or i would say the covert or the bca stash pack something around the 32l size is good for general backcountry use..as long as you dont carry a med kit, or lots of camera shit with you
Nov 17 2010 12:21PM
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benk
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I feel like their packs (not all) are flimsy and lack fundamental adjustments like stabilizer straps.  Dakine has gone into the business of making school backpacks look like recreational packs.

I also noticed my BD Outlaw has a small built it frame, this is really nice when carrying skis or when your pack doesn't have much in to to keep it stable.
Nov 17 2010 12:28PM
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Literature
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I've got a BD Covert Avalung 32L from a few years ago and it's been the perfect pack.

The Outlaw seems to be the closest to what I'd buy now. BD makes durable, well working packs. Do not hesitate.
Nov 17 2010 12:46PM
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Shpadoinkle
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Has anyone used the Ogio Flak Jacket?
Nov 17 2010 6:37PM
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I_Am_Mod
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bump!
want to know this too, that thing looks ill !
Nov 18 2010 5:07AM
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