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Just watched "Jesus Camp"

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wasatch_rat
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holy shit. most terrifying documentary i've seen in a long time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqGhcwwE1s
Nov 11 2010 1:14AM
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LS.
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watched that in theology sophmore year in high school, private not pubic obviously.
Nov 11 2010 1:19AM
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fdsa
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inb4 Christians are stupid and science is constantly disproving God.

Basically multi-page religious shitstorm.
Nov 11 2010 1:45AM
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DaysToCome
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that movie is pretty scary. but well made as well so christians who watch it and agree with whats going on wont be offended. but its still pretty fucked up in my opinion
Nov 11 2010 2:33AM
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Negro_Jesus
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my threads
Nov 11 2010 2:47AM
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Hemulen.
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psychic christian terrorists next
Nov 11 2010 4:52AM
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theabortionator
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http://www.christianforums.com/t2138307/

and phantasytour invading the og thread on that. Some pretty epic quotes saved in the PT thread

http://phantasytour.com/phish/boards_thread.cgi?threadID=1010392&page=1
Nov 11 2010 4:57AM
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Mike-O
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Thanks for the link!
Nov 11 2010 5:08AM
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PeterWojnar
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I agree.


Commence -k
Nov 11 2010 5:20AM
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Mike-O
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I feel so SORRY for these kids... This is so sad to watch, because this Levi kid and Rachael seem really intelligent for their age. To put their minds into waste like this is heartbreaking.
Nov 11 2010 5:36AM
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Dan.P
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Nov 11 2010 5:41AM
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KLovelace
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I agree.. the Levi kid especially is scary.. cause he is so charismatic and well spoken for a kid of his age..imagine what he'll be when is older.. and to see that put to this intense go to war for the lord mentality is just a bit frightening.
Nov 11 2010 5:46AM
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mattridesskis
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i couldnt make it past 9 minutes...
seems crazy to me.
Maybe if i was raised a christian i would understand, but i wasnt.

Nov 11 2010 6:23AM
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thugaim
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>implying that isn't the case.
Nov 11 2010 11:15AM
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BrewskiJr
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It's actually evangelical Christianity. Shit is so fucked up. Those kids are brainwashed.
Nov 11 2010 11:21AM
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Willard
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i was hoping it was gonna be a comedy
Nov 11 2010 11:22AM
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encludemeout
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my threads
Nov 11 2010 11:32AM
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Petey.
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Coming from a family who's religious on my mothers side, I can tell you those kids aren't brainwashed. There is no "you can't get out of this, you HAVE to believe this" type of atmosphere.

I agree it comes off pretty strong in this video but regardless of whether or not you agree with what they're saying, they're not bad people because of what they believe.
Nov 11 2010 11:40AM
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-ROY-
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threads fo afta work to see the madness
Nov 11 2010 12:07PM
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exile_ch
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Oh please no...


Every kid who's believing in God has been brainwashed in his childhood. Every. Single. Kid.
Nov 11 2010 12:09PM
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Petey.
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I'm not really religious myself though..

But that one girl did scare me a bit lol
Nov 11 2010 12:10PM
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Willard
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Any kid who is told something time after time is probably gonna stick with that for the rest of his/her life. I think it should be illegal for anybody under the age of 10 to enter a church.
Nov 11 2010 12:11PM
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Petey.
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Nah son you ignant like sup
Nov 11 2010 12:13PM
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derbski
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IN BIBLICAL TIMES, HARRY POTTER WOULD HAVE BEEN STONED TO DEATH, THEY WOULD STONE HIM TO DEATH.

uhhh....... harry potter is fictional.....?
Nov 11 2010 12:14PM
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thugaim
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>implying hes ignant.
Nov 11 2010 12:20PM
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fdsa
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You have got to be the biggest prepubescent waste of bandwidth on this site.

I weep for the future of whatever country you end up inhabiting.
Nov 11 2010 12:24PM
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Heinzler
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havent seen it
Nov 11 2010 12:27PM
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exile_ch
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I would gladly welcome him in Switzerland... 
Nov 11 2010 12:29PM
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fdsa
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.>implying that

Nicholas Copernicus
Sir Francis Bacon
Johannes Kepler
Galileo Galilei
Rene Descartes
Isaac Newton
Robert Boyle
Michael Faraday
Gregor Mendel
William Thomson Kelvin
Max Planck
and
Albert Einstein

were stupid. To name a few.
Nov 11 2010 12:39PM
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thugaim
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>implying Einstein wasn't an atheist.
>implying being atheist during their times wouldn't have gotten them shunned from society at best and killed at worst.
>implying Galileo wasn't right and the church didn't imprison him because he proved how stupid their beleifs are.



Everyone who believes in God completely fails at logical reasoning when it comes to their belief in God. I'm reading Descartes right now, its fucking ridiculous how smart he is up until he tries to prove God exists and fails miserably.

Nov 11 2010 12:52PM
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fsscott
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lol @ when i went to jesus camp
Nov 11 2010 12:53PM
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fdsa
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"To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?"
"As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene."
"Have you read Emil Ludwig’s book on Jesus?"
"Emil Ludwig’s Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot!"
"You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"
"Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."

G. S. Viereck, "What Life Means to Einstein," Saturday Evening Post, 26 October 1929; Schlagschatten, Sechsundzwanzig Schicksalsfragen an Grosse der Zeit (Vogt-Schild, Solothurn, 1930), p. 60; Glimpses of the Great (Macauley, New York, 1930), pp. 373-374.

Good Lord you suck at life. Please go away.
Nov 11 2010 12:59PM
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Stickity
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god isn't real
if he is then this post won't show up and my computer will explode as will i
go
Nov 11 2010 1:02PM
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fsscott
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now that's silly. if you knew anything of the bible at all you'd know of the part where it say's something around you won't ask God to prove his existence.

jeeze.
Nov 11 2010 1:06PM
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95959
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You know who else was religious?
Hitler

Just proving that your argument holds no water.
Nov 11 2010 1:10PM
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Stickity
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therefore trusting a belief
oh wait
that's what they said about evolution
fuck yeah
*slap sticky hand*
Nov 11 2010 1:10PM
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WinSt[]NadAMz
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But how badly do you want the reese peanut butter cup t shirt that says jesus king of kings. XXXL would be amazing
Nov 11 2010 1:10PM
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Stickity
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qft
Nov 11 2010 1:12PM
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fsscott
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what?
Nov 11 2010 1:12PM
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MatRich
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" and while were on the subject. Harry potter..." hahah priceless
Nov 11 2010 1:13PM
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Stickity
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if you can't ask for his existence to be proven you are trusting a belief
that's the same damn thing they said in the beginning of the video about evolution
not that complicated
Nov 11 2010 1:14PM
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vailsux.com
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we know so little, but the members of NS seem to know so much.

btw, fuck evangelicals.
Nov 11 2010 1:16PM
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exile_ch
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"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

"[...] The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These [...] interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."


Nov 11 2010 1:19PM
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fsscott
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true.

i haven't seen the video yet, and for everyone else who hasn't that post had no content and looks silly
Nov 11 2010 1:22PM
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Davy.Crockett
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yep
Nov 11 2010 1:25PM
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thugaim
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Thanks for saving me the googling good sir.
Nov 11 2010 1:31PM
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vailsux.com
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Einstein does explain it best:

I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. THE PROBLEM INVOLVED IS TOO VAST FOR OUR LIMITED MINDS. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws.
Nov 11 2010 1:33PM
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exile_ch
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my pleasure.
Nov 11 2010 1:33PM
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thugaim
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Granted. Regardless, Einstein was at best an agnostic, and most definitely denied the existence of a "personal" god. The argument that "some smart people were religious" is a stupid appeal to authority that really means nothing at all. It still does not refute the point that anyone who does believe in a perfect, all-knowing/loving/caring personal god who created everything and answers prayer etc. has fundamentally flawed logic when it comes to justifying their beliefs.
Nov 11 2010 1:36PM
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Black-Bandanna
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That documentary scared the fuck out of me. We watched it in a polisci course I'm taking this semester.
Nov 11 2010 1:42PM
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vailsux.com
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Sound reasoning.

On personal note, I am not one who believes in the typical construct of god. Just to let you know so we can understand each other better.
Nov 11 2010 1:53PM
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