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Two completely different directions

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J..H
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The other day as I was watching B&E muddy winter I had a thought. A thought that skiing was going into two completely different directions. You have guys like Casabon, Henrik, and Hornbeck and then you have guys like Gus, Bobby, and Russ Henshaw. It will be interesting over this next season to see how competition results will differ from prior years and what new styles and new tricks will evolve into. Anyway these are directions that I think are good for skiing, personally I like the style approach better than who can do the biggest trick.

BIG TRICKS


https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/content/viewvideo/id/346553/cat/all/search_string/Russ+Henshaw/

https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/content/viewvideo/id/359594/cat/top/

STYLE

B&E Show Episode 4 - Muddy Winter from Blackout Project on Vimeo.



Brady Perron Park edit from Triceratops on Vimeo.





Just want to know what you guys think about these two different directions.
Oct 24 2010 6:20PM
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ButteredToast.
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I agree here. I remember when I first saw some of Gus's edits. He had the ugliest style I have ever seen. I hated it.

If you compare his KoS with his earlier edits, he has come a LONG way with his style. It's not too forced, and it looks good. It's not loose and gangster, it's more aggressive, but still looks VERY in-control.

I like his style now
Oct 25 2010 5:49PM
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J..H
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but his double cork 16... gross. TJ did it and didn't open up and go all crazy or hand drag or nothing. Gus has wild style
Oct 25 2010 5:51PM
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JustDidIt
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because the KOS competition is all about style. oh wait, its a big air competition...
Oct 25 2010 6:11PM
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TijmenDal
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Personally I like it more when they're really throwing down than when they try to be all cool and steezy, which they're good at, but the whole image around it annoys me like fuck.
Like in the B&E 4, where at 0:50 this one guy does some bird-wings with his hands? Wtf...that's so not gangster. Of course they're sick skiers and I sure have respect for them, but the whole 4xl-hype is pissing me off - badly.
Oct 25 2010 6:39PM
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*TURBONERD*
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I agree, it seems that he's switched his style a lot. Back when things were bad, he tried to afterbang super, super hard, and it just looked awful and forced, much like Tom Warnick's used to. Now he has a very smooth, controlled style, clean as opposed to exaggerated.
Oct 25 2010 6:49PM
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10...nuffsaid
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i believe you mean homsexual and heterosexual. I would say smooth lines, big air, lots o' spin and a touch of rails is sweet. I find the gangster approach not only poorly suited to the format of comps now but i also find there is too much dancing around like a leprechaun to be skiing.

Personal opinion and choice. not hatin. just making discussion.
Oct 25 2010 6:58PM
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J..H
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LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IM NOT TRYING TO HATE ON GUS, BOBBY, OR RUSS
Oct 25 2010 8:24PM
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fillup
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Everyone already knows which direction is better.
Oct 25 2010 8:35PM
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J..H
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and that is...
Oct 25 2010 8:56PM
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jason...
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im with ben this thread is fucking useless
Oct 25 2010 9:12PM
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gigi.d
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Thug gangster style. Duh. Wow you are dumb for not knowing that.
Oct 25 2010 10:03PM
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casual
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I'm 26, I don't hate Gus, I didn't say he doesn't have air sense or even good air sense...he has amazing air sense. I was refuting ONE PERSON'S claim that he has the "best" air sense which is a ridiculous and entirely unprovable statement.

In the Gus KOS style, I even said that his dub grabs on both the kang and the cork 9 were dope, so suck a dick.

All you little stooges who can't read, let alone refute shit that I say, need to fall way the fuck back.

Fuck.
Oct 25 2010 11:11PM
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casual
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P.S.

I have no "cred" to speak of—particularly, when talking about something as fucking subjective as "style".

Newsflash: No one else has any "cred" either, regardless of what color their name is, how many posts they have, how long they've been on ns, or any other totally irrelevant "credential" you can point at.

The bottom line is that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and at the very least, even if you disagree with me 100% of the time, I express mine clearly and explicitly.
Oct 25 2010 11:15PM
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Alp1ne
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No matter how much you want a guy like phil to win a comp guys like bobby and russ will beat him every time unless he gets some bigger tricks that's just how it is.

However i think if Henrik can get a bit more of a right game he could win some big comps.
Oct 25 2010 11:40PM
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TijmenDal
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This pretty much...

And the word 'stoked' should really be banned. Everyone's just always stoked on fucking EVERYTHING...
Oct 26 2010 12:08PM
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SteveStepp
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Oct 26 2010 12:26PM
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TotallyTrevor
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i'm pretty sure Henrik has already won some big comps....?
Oct 26 2010 12:32PM
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10...nuffsaid
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hear hear!!
Oct 26 2010 6:58PM
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J..H
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buemp
Oct 27 2010 5:29PM
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Sitch.
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i think they will stop doing crazy bigger tricks and focus more in the style i also think X games will always like it is right now but with bigger jomps to do some tripples..
Oct 27 2010 6:02PM
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ButteredToast.
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Does anyone else HATE that feet-ridiculously-close-together style that henrik and friends had in the B&E edit?

That bothers me so much for some reason
Oct 27 2010 6:32PM
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j.bird
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you don't like parallel turns with edge control and nice form? Maybe I'm old school but I grew up taking LESSONS where you learn to SKI, and this is one of the first principals.

I gguess you can ski like a pizza wedging 5 year old forever if you'd like but don't expect to get better
Oct 27 2010 8:06PM
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Baskin.
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I don't wanna sound like a tom Wallisch fan boy but.....to me tom is the perfect balance between style and clean big tricks
Oct 27 2010 8:16PM
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cooper.fry
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Yes.
Oct 27 2010 8:28PM
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ButteredToast.
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I can ski fine. I don't slide my turns, and I can make deep carves.

The whole thing with people landing looking like their knees and feet tied together just bothers me for some reason. I think a switch landing with your feet a little less than shoulder width apart with feet staggered looks better.

Tom Wall = Yes.

Phil Casabon = Yes.

Idk what it is about the style in the B&E show that bothers me, but it does.
Oct 27 2010 8:32PM
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brennanmidwest
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I can see what you mean with some of them, I think it just looks awkward on a couple of those shots, but if you watch delorme's part in eye trip he has a similar style with very parallel skis on alot of his tricks, and I think it looks so sick.It just makes it look like he has so much more control in the air
Oct 27 2010 10:55PM
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casual
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I'm with you. Ahmet does the same thing.

Like it's been said...I'm also old school, from the era of straight skis and determining someone's skill based on their ability to "parallel". I think it looks like they're on fucking monoskis....which is obviously dope.
Oct 27 2010 11:22PM
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