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The Shinbang Answer

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Pipe_Munky
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So there's been a ton of threads about boots that don't cause shinbang and from what I've seen, "buy Full Tilts" has been the common answer but in fact, isn't the only answer.

I figured I should chime in on this since I do have a little experiance in fixing this problem over the past 6 years.

Boot Fit: it goes without saying, if your boots don't fit you're in for some trouble beyond shinbang

Booster Straps: they help a little bit but not really. If anything they will give you better rebound out of your boots and perhaps a little more shock absorbtion

A lot of people have said "shinbang is caused by skiing backseat" this is spot on! Now a lot of people think they don't ski backseat but because of bad habits developed over years of skiing, their natural stance is backseat and they can't feel it.

The real problem is the forward lean on your boots. The answer? More UPRIGHT BOOTS!

This is why you all scream "FULL TILT" without even knowing why. A more upright boot will the most with shinbang issues because you are not being forced as far forward by the boot and therefore the strain on the shins in reduced.

Boot Recomendations: There are a ton of boot companies out there that offer a boot with a more upright stance. Here are a couple of examples FULL TILT, DALBELLO, SALOMON, ROSSIGNOL, etc...

Now if you have a good and I do mean GOOD bootfitter, they can take the boots you currently have and make them more upright by grinding away plastic at the bottom of the back of the cuff. BEWARE: IF THEY MESS UP YOUR BOOTS WILL BE RUINED!

Hopefully this helps with the shinbang discussion
Oct 20 2010 11:56AM
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onenerdykid
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Are you saying that most/all shinbang is caused by landing back seat? Or that a more upright boot will cure the shinbang caused by landing backseat?

And if you want to give your boot less forward lean, only grinding away the bottom of the cuff doesn't necessarily achieve it- you need to also alter the rear inner cuff of the shell since that is at the same angle as the upper cuff. If you grind away the bottom of the cuff but don't also cut the inner cuff, it will still push you forward. (this also slightly softens your boot too...)
Oct 21 2010 12:57PM
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TijmenDal
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Nice that some people actually take the time to type something out like this!

Though, I don't really agree on the part where you say you should buy new boots or adjust the boots by cutting a bit of the cuff off. If you adjust your boots you're never gonna learn how to ski the right way. I'd say it's better to adjust the technique, not the boot.

Small spelling mistake? (You forgot a word, I think)
A more upright boot will *SOLVE* the most with *Remove the 'with'?* shinbang issues because you are not being forced as far forward...

It might be right, but it doesn't look good to me, even though english ain't my mother language.

Oct 21 2010 4:58PM
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onenerdykid
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Just following it up, but I don't think a more upright boot is the ultimate answer for curing shinbang. I don't think there is one, single ultimate answer for it- it's pretty complex. For example, if you have a good fit, an upright cuff, but no footbed there is still a strong possibility that you will get shinbang. Or if the boot is too stiff or too soft for you or you have the wrong cuff height.

Think of it like a recipe- all of the ingredients need to be in order, not just one or two.
Oct 22 2010 2:02AM
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phelps
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You mentioned that Salomon makes some good boots (in terms of shin bang protection). I was wondering how the SPK Kreations hold up against shin bang, and if anyone happens to know; what the flex is on them.
Dec 16 2010 12:25AM
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MACAQUE
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When I got shinbang last season I just put a super thin soccer shinguard in my boots when I skiied. Never got shinbang when i did that.
Dec 16 2010 12:31AM
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dylan.r.1080
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i don't get shin band in my rampages with the larger forward lean shim in the back. I think footbeds make the biggest difference.
Dec 16 2010 1:00AM
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pigglywiggly
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i just took out the little black insert thing in the back of my full tilts as well as put in the #1 cant insert to make it as upright as possible. hoping this will help a little
Dec 16 2010 8:52AM
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