Is France serious?

le sigh... americans so misinformed about how we entered the war...

Before the Germans had victories in Poland and France, the attitude was "we helped out for 2 years, sorta during ww1, and we're NEVER going back to that shithole that is Europe... that place is a WARZONE...

We went into hermit crab mode, and said 'okay... we'll build a few ships and train a few guys, but really its to protect from mexico trying to get us back or... in case some southerners get lairy and want to secede again...' Our navy was, worse equipped, and smaller than that of Portugal... no offense to portugal or anything... but really... we have something like 43 states that are bigger than Portugal... and even back then when there were only 48 states... there were like 42 at least lol. Our army was using guns that even by ww1 standards were old... They were made, or designed during the reconstruction period... shit... you've probably seen replicas of a few of the same guns they used to use at the time, in those old western films... Shits were damn near flintlock muskets...

But then the Germans started taking over countries who we traded with left and right... as well as throwing lots of explosive things at others who could now not buy our shit due to distraction, and fucked up our economical advantages... and FDR was all like 'uhhh yo... lend lease act time- we barely get any business from Doucheland... Britain and france are our biggest moneymakers... we gotta help them out doods.' (we still traded with germany all the way up until after pearl harbor)

Then and ONLY then did we even throw jack shit for fundage into our military.. and even then, we didnt do any research or anything... we just made stuff and gave it to britain on the hope that they'd survive and come back and pay it off at a later date.

Until the Japanese got on our ass... we didnt even lift a finger... and even then, we didnt declare war on Germany or Italy... it was 4 days after we told the japanese they could go fuck themselves and commit seppuku, that the Germans and Italians decided they wanted to join the party. They told us to suck left nut before we even set foot on a ship to head over there.


IF the germans decided they wanted to attack america? First of all... look at what happened during Pearl harbor... think that happening... on a grand scale... in every large harbor on the continent...

after pearl harbor... if the japanese had built up an invasion force, they could have taken over the country all the way to the Mississippi river... And the Japanese were NOTHING compared to the Germans.

They would have come rollin up in their super rad, mine laying submarines they called U-boats (das booooot!) and just shot the shit out of any ships we actually did have...

Then, they would have had absolutely no problem making myrtle beach, and the Jersey shore their bitch, by landing heavily armored vehicles (something the USA didnt have at all - during pretty much all of world war 2, because the Sherman Tank would just about explode if you sat on it the wrong way... fuckers ran on straight gasoline, because thats what we could build at the time with our infrastructure - and we didnt even have them until 1942! - in fact, the only tanks we had in 1939/1940 were the m2. We had a whole 112 of them, and their main gun was 37mm. Half the size of the gun it would have taken to beat a German tank at the time - of which they had thousands they could have sent) and lots of very well trained soldiers (our army was, at the time just a bunch of guys with nothing else to do...) and they would have been flying some pretty sick planes as soon as they captured bermuda, or newfoundland... (we didnt have jack shit for air support at the time - we had a bunch of biplanes and the B17, and that was useless for defense... and we only had about 50... during ww2, we'd fly these guys in by the hundreds on single missions... and we'd have 50 of them to protect the whole fuckin country against a German onslaught? yeah right)

So... why did the US have more casualties? because A: we were finally attacked and forced into the war - before then, we had less than 100 casualties probably... mostly from guys who either decided to go fight in china or britain flying planes, or guys on ships getting bombed during lend-lease, and B: because we were still at that time 10 times the population size of Canuckistan, and once we got into the swing of things, we had a lot of private ryans over there losing brothers...





If germany, or... basically anyone else with a competent military wanted to take over the USA in 1939-1940... it would have been easier than france...

1: send over uboats to Mexico, who was pissed off at the USA for stealing a crapload of land from them, and get those amigos on your side for SURE by saying they get to keep the whole western USA and all the gold and shit there.
2: set up a few bases for your Uboats, to refuel and crap
3: send mass uboat zerg rush to all major naval bases in mainland USA (SF, Seattle, San Diego, New York, Boston, DC, New Orleans, and Philadelphia) and take out ships like crazy.
4: Mexico goes apeshit, and sends in a massive pancho villa marine rush on the USA southwest - While US sends all their doods over to stop the mexicans from taking their minerals and vespene gas expansions in Arizona, and Southern California, the germans attack huge and land massive dropship attack on cities that they just crushed with their Das Boots.
5. USA thinks they can start building mass tanks for defense in Detroit, and Pittsburgh, and stuff.. but then Germans, who by now have taken Noofieland and Nova Skoshah, send epic huuge luftwaffe AIRMADA to bomb cities where the USA actually has mechanical infrastructure, and raw materials production. Planes land in newly reaquired mexican territories.
6: Checkmate. Seattle, Denver, and Salt Lake City have to start speaking spanish, and Ze Germans now have FDR and are making al queda videos with him, telling Americans to stop rebelling at once, and join the nazi party or see their poliosedent die.

At this point... Red Dawn takes a whole new meaning. Would all Americans give up and cower? fuck no... but would the US government? you know it...

I ruv u rong time

holy fuck jenifa said something intelligent. is it 2012 yet?

you are my favorite orange name and i wish you would be my history teacher.

and i thought ive made some preposterous wholly unbackable statements over the years on NS.

Read my giant huge post I made... by the time the USA even thought of fully mobilizing to defend... they would have been fucked... at least by germany...

any coalition of competent militaries could have at least seriously put the USA on the backseat...

you are aware that france lost over 1 million men in WW1 right? how late did the US join in again? and again in ww2? know your history you ignorant red neck.

The USA is always a few years late to the battle...

ww1 starts in 1914? we arrive in 1917. useful... Russia had already gone communist, and now we have a bunch of red scares because of it... high five, guys...

ww2 starts in 1939? we show up in late1941/early 42..

see a pattern?

i did. its pure 100% speculation from a college (im assuming youre in college?) student with no military background. (look i started the dick measuring contest this time :)


pearl harbor in every major sea port? HA

granted this is much less an issue in todays world. but the greatest defensive weapon the US has ever had are 2 giant oceans, the Atlantic, and Pacific.

It's speculation, of course... but it's not like I'm the first one to speculate such a thing... hell... if Japan had sent in their 3rd wave, not only would pearl harbor have been obliterated even more than it was to the point that it might as well have been a hole in the ground...

But imagine if that attack was backed up with an invasion fleet? They could have refueled and kept on chugging and been in San Francisco within no time... and layed waste to the presidio in a few short trigger flicks. The west coast would have been theirs without that much of a sweat...

Imagine if things had been coordinated better, and there was more focus on gaining intel in order to attack the USA... the Japanese and Germans both had competent as hell navies at the time... and having our capital and main economic/population centres based on the pacific and atlantic coasts at the time? it just makes sense... I dont see how it's so hard to understand... just think of what the fuck we WERE in 1939...

Damn it France.

I wish we had more balls, and rioted about more things like france does.

I want to flip some fucking cars. Imagine all the 'car flipping insurance' that could be sold! new jobs?

The gov't would probably fall yes, but you would have every gun owning American in the gun stores when the invasion starts stealing or buying all the ammo for their guns and they would all probably go running up into the hills of the Rockies and Cascades constantly fucking up little patrols.

Yes, yelling either Wolverines or Fuck You all the time.

I don't think he understands that you're only talking about the beginning years of the war.

Wanna flip cars? Become a Lakers fan.

Now that we are finally back on topic, does anyone else think that the strike and the craziness is an ample opportunity for terrorists to move just a bit more freely? They've been raising the threat cap for a couple of weeks now for all major European cities and tourist locations and all this commotion must be very pressing for the police force.

^^ ya i was in London last week and they removed all garbage bins from the city and are on a alert for a terrorist. There are also strikes in London but not quite as large as the french

You would think that but it always seems like the terrorists watch those threat level things and go when it is in the green instead of the red.

Hhahahahahaa are you serious? please tell me you're serious!

I do not believe you work too much, i don't know anybody that does, unless you call your over handed,over powered gung-ho hostage rescues work.

How could you even come about on this opinion?

Yep. Just like France... Le Resistance ring a bell at all? Hell... even after the 3rd republic fell.. France just said FUCK YOU, German scum! and went around on sweet ambush attacks, did tons of rad guerrilla warfare, and became a serious nuisance just like the Wolverines did in Red Dawn by stealing all the nazi's cool tech...

Oh, dont worry about it... Russia is the place to go for car flipping... because then they blow them up whilst they are upside down...

Gymnast's don't have boobs.

May I present people's evidence 1:


I see a severe lack of boobage. Raisin smuggling however.

Terrorists? really? dude... they do what they please in france... they dont wait for riots to start in order to move around more freely... they blend in, anyway seeing as France is an arab nation (that's right... they are right next to north africa, and have lots of ties to middle eastern countries. imagine!).

I see nipple indentations... theyre boobs...

Yeah... I suppose so.


But, I blame the fucking terrorists for me being awake this late and what will most likely be me getting in trouble tomorrow for never going to bed to be a teddy bear. FFFFFUUUU. Why am I still awake?

fuck the lakers!

I'm still awake doing graduate work on international communications... and seeing as it's the middle of the day in Moscow, it's not entirely inappropriate.

Yeah mine got screwed up studying for midterms. FFFFFUUUUUUUU

you now have a reason to flip a car. to show how much you hate the lakers.


see how easy it is? It's a beautiful thing...

I love car flipping... I'm def moving to france...

lol, i opened this thread just wondering if they ever got back on topic, and this is the first post.

cause the fucking stoopid socialist assholes thought socialism was a viable option that wouldnt have any cost... the reality is, they are gonna have to work till their 70 in order to pay for socialist policies haha shows how greedy the socliaist brats are

france is gonna go down the drains because adding socialism to a country in its race against other countries... is like putting a parachute on the back of a race car and still expecting it to compete. GREECE DIED BECAUSE SOCIALISM IS A SICKNESS. socialist spain and france will follow..$ and the united states too if we keep sucking the socialist dick

Explain to me how Greece died?

actually greece was killed by socialism. thats what i meant to say. spain has hundreds of millions of dollars worth of undersold real estate that is going to pull them under next. Sweden is nowhere near as socialist as greece, unless you want to lie. dingosean i dont think theres anyone on newschoolers filled with more shit than you are. sweden is so far from greece... dingo wow yur just an asshole sean, you need to smack yourself on the head with a frying pan and realize...what the ussr, greece, cuba, and venezuela (once they run out of oil) all realize... SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK

Haha, what the fuck you smokin'? Sweden is definitely a top tier socialist country when it comes to benefits from socialism, Finland trailing close behind. And what does socialism have to do with real estate in Spain, please indulge me.

I stand behind the French movement. The french have their own policy. It is undemocratic to change a law when the majority of the population disagrees. 69% of the French support the movement and do not want the reform.
Socialism=equal rights for everyone, rich, poor,sick or color skin...everyone pays taxes and everyone has rights to the benifits. Money is not a factor. So stop claiming socialists are lechers. Its simply not true.

don't waste your time dude

HAHAHA.

I really am not getting this trolling shit. Looking at his coherent posts in other threads, it seems like this wasn't trolling, but a freak outburst against "socialism" as he believes it to be.

Fucking jokes, then.

this.

if the 31% of people who want this reform don't appreciate the other 69% of people's opinions, they don't really belong in france. but of course, they probably appreciate that their fellow people have different opinions and therefore have the right to live in the same nation as them. that's how it works in france.

just saw this...

I came about this opinion based on what damn near every european I've talked to for prolonged periods has told me. And talking with other students here in london, they've only reinforced that opinion. We had several entire lectures devoted to teaching students about the workplace and applying for jobs, because most 20 year old students have never held jobs. Myself and almost all of my friends in the US have been working for at least 4 years now.

On a cultural side note, the French are always rioting for something and there is an ample amount of goons in that country to protest whatever is going to happen next.

Sarkozy is implementing measures that are not relevant with the laid back, happy go lucky culture in France although they really do need these type of reforms to stay competitive. France has successful firms operating within its boundaries but if you go to France, you realize that unless you go to top schools, they won't hire you. Also, kids 18-22 or somewhere in between, don't work. They rely on funding from parents until later years of education are done and then head to the job market if they are positioned to do well. It's a very structured society and keeping the work force active is important. Not sure if they have an aging population as well, have not checked the stats lately but if they do, France is in trouble and reforms like these are needed.

If things work out right, in Finland you don't have to work a single day until you graduate and start up with a monthly salary of over €4000. I've seen it happen many times. These kids had absolutely no work experience to boot. You don't really need it here if you can live moderately, €700+ /month from the state is enough to cover rent, food and bills in the capital area - you'd live like a king if you study higher up North.

69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent 69 percent!!!! 69 percent vote to kill all the socialists in this thread... does that mean we have to listen to it? fuck no! YOU RETARDED COCKSUCKERS NEED TO LEARN THE DEFINITION OF "TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY". it is a completely unjust effect of giving infinite power to the vote. we do not have the right to steal or kill. AND A MAJORITY VOTE TO STEAL (socialism/communism) IS AS FAIR AS A MAJORITY VOTE TO KILL... 69 percent? haha fuck those lazy douchebags

*giggle*

this thread is a cock gobbler.

yah dingosean "giggle" away.. you are so clever and cool that i wish i was just like you. you are like my idol dingosean. haha you dirty old man, sean you need to stop crawling into the nourishing womb of government. lol dingo when i think of socialists like you and gnartron and rubbersoul, i always picture a dirty old man who is to lazy to get a job, trying to crawl back into your moms vagina so you can hop back in the womb. thats what you socialists are.. your like a growth... like an abcess, you just want to feed off of others like parasites

how old are you and what's your job?

i lold


coming from Rowen. the very definition of a troll.