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J-Sway
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Line sir francis bacon VS. Armada JJ

I am a expert skier who loves to charge it in the backcountry and hit big booter's. i live in the pacific northwest, and i ski at crystal mountain, Washington. 

I want to know which ski is more stable at high speed, has the lowest swing weight, and that can rail on the groommers better getin back to the chair, ect.. ect..

HEIGHT/AGE/WEIGHT: 5'8''/ 14/ 130lbs

Also i am open to new ideas!

Oct 6 2010 10:09PM
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bluegavin269
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if money isnt a problem i would have to say jj
Oct 6 2010 10:14PM
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J-Sway
Posts: 685 - Karma: 111

Have you skied either?

And i like how you have a line icon and your telling me to buy armada.

Oct 6 2010 10:17PM
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T.DUDE
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toooo many of these threads, goooood lord!
Oct 6 2010 10:22PM
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J-Sway
Posts: 685 - Karma: 111

Yes i know i am new to this and screwed up twice then got told i was doing it wrong.

Oct 6 2010 10:38PM
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bluegavin269
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skied jj's but i love how its line cause thats what i have cause i cant afford $700 skis

Oct 6 2010 10:38PM
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J-Sway
Posts: 685 - Karma: 111

Yes i know i am new to this and screwed up twice then got told i was doing it wrong.

Oct 6 2010 10:39PM
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Mr_pretzel
Posts: 4616 - Karma: 1,290
Fuck off, Gear talk is about getting help.

To OP. I would say that you are looking for a ski that doesn't exist. Its hard for a ski to be able to charge everywhere. So we need a little more info.

Do you want a bit of camber?
Do you want taper?
Alot of rocker?
Less rocker?
Waist size?
More of a jibby ski?
Or charging?
Oct 7 2010 7:52AM
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J-Sway
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Dude i pretty much just want to know whick ski is all around better from people who have skied them. I dont want a bunch of BS about how im not posting shit right!

Oct 8 2010 12:35AM
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J-Sway
Posts: 685 - Karma: 111

Dude i pretty much just want to know whick ski is all around better from people who have skied them. I dont want a bunch of BS about how im not posting shit right!

Oct 8 2010 12:37AM
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Mr_pretzel
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I have skied both and they are really different skis. Both are fine on groomers. The jjs are stiffer and handle crud better and the SFB's are more playful.
Oct 8 2010 6:48AM
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AJizzle
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The jj is way more stable at speed and in chop, great on long runouts, and ski groomed very well for 115 underfoot
Oct 8 2010 3:59PM
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arandomname
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Neither of those are charging skis and that's what it sounds like you want.  Maybe look towards the ON3P Wrenegade.
Oct 8 2010 5:04PM
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AJizzle
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Dude doesn't weigh very much, the jj can def be considered a charging ski for him
Oct 8 2010 5:17PM
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J-Sway
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what about swing weight?
Oct 8 2010 8:36PM
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arandomname
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Oh yeah, I guess I skipped that.  My bad
Oct 8 2010 11:31PM
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blatt
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I live PNW (oregon) and I know a few people with JJ's. They both charge cliffs, booters and steeps. I know the bacons have early rise (rockered but cambered, good for your groomer situation) and im pretty sure the JJ's do to. Go with the JJ's
Oct 8 2010 11:36PM
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Dragonite
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Armada JJ's
Oct 8 2010 11:43PM
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blatt
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forgot to mention this: Go demo both
Oct 8 2010 11:49PM
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J-Sway
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ya but i sold last years skis and need skis for next year. I think im going with the JJ's im hearing good things about them.

Oct 9 2010 1:15AM
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blatt
Posts: 5584 - Karma: 3,097
never assume. just because a bunch of people on newschoolers say this is the ski for you, It's important to demo rather than just make a blatent descision on a ski that YOU never skid before.
Oct 9 2010 1:33AM
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J-Sway
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Can anybody give me a swing weight comparison?
Oct 9 2010 2:07AM
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AJizzle
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Swing weight is gonna be way less on the jj, hybrid core makes it super light, plus the tapered tips means there's less material on the tips of the ski, where on a ski like the bacon, the tips are the widest part. I haven't spun on the bacons, but I can tell u the swing weight on the jj's is fairly low
Oct 9 2010 2:14AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Go to a ski shop and flip them around in your hands.
Oct 9 2010 2:14AM
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dickwreck
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Dude are you fucking joking me? just because his icon is line doesnt mean shit.  You asked what was better and he is being honest. You seem like a total troll or just huge noob
Oct 9 2010 1:06PM
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.jesus.
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jj's all day erry day
Oct 9 2010 1:09PM
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