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Beheading of an American Civilian

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Naturalbornskier
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what a tragic deal huh? All because our marines took pics of them,yeah thats bad but serouisly,they were killers to begin with jesus,they are going to pay for this.




May 11 2004 10:33PM
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r5tommy
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do you really want to know?
May 12 2004 4:24PM
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pag
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I want to know so I'll know what I'm talkin about... and I think that it's just the same... man US are in fuckin trouble
and islamic is just like those crazy christian like bush they don,t understand shit about the others... but the problem is that it's the US that started back islmisc jihad and stuff like that... and hum they went to irak to take control of the gaz so they wont sell it to china so china won't expand there economical grow that fast they'll cut them from oil supply... and it's an occupation so irakis don't have a lot of power to fight except guerilla and murder so here we are...
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May 12 2004 4:34PM
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Girays_Brother
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^thats true



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i take off ur little sisters underwear
shes only three so shes never seen a wee wee
so i told her it was a lollypop and the flavor was salty.
shoved in her mouth, it punctured through her cheek broke the glasses of that three year old geek.
r. kelly did the same but im not about to give him the blame cuz fucking littles girls is just my game
May 12 2004 4:37PM
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r5tommy
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i heard its on www.newsfilter.org, its like a weird porno website,,,first page has the video

its also got the paris hilton video haha
if u watch it, tell us how horrible it is, because i dont think alot of people have seen it at all ( the bad video, not paris hilton)
May 12 2004 4:42PM
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homestead
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there used ot be a video right before we bombed the shit out of them of a song called yakety yak, bomb iraq. it was great. ill post the link if i can find it


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May 12 2004 4:44PM
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the_friesz
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Well, from my perspective the point of this was missed long ago. Everyone is once again making assumptions, and stating heresay as fact. How do we know Berg awsn't tortured before he was executed? How do we know all this stuff that people say happened to those Iraqi prisoners actually happened (I'm not saying it didn't, cause it's a fact that shit did go down) but some of the stuff listed in earlier posts seem to come from heresay when I know you haven't seen the pictures for yourself. The fact is, this civilian who was over there to help rebuild a country was kidnapped and executed for no more than idiological reasons, he, didn't do anything. So where do these 'facts' come from that we've been chopping Iraqi's to peices in order to get information from them come from. I know the points of the geneva convention very well and I'm having a hard time believing that anyone here knows what they're talking about when they're throwing all this info out here. We're talking about an innocent being murdered, thos guys in that prison weren't innocent, and we've yet to chop one of their heads off... Like I said I'll never understand the muslim reasoning system cause it makes no sense, they find reason with no reason.
May 12 2004 6:43PM
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skicraze123
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i take it yur not to smart borntoski or what ever the hell it is.... tourture rape thats 3rd world contry crap man use yur fuckin brain
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May 12 2004 6:46PM
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Concord
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I think that is really sad what happen to that poor guy.... An I also hope that those US soliders get punished for what they did when I heard that I was sad to be a American there trained soliders there is NO reason for that...

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May 12 2004 6:52PM
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Naturalbornskier
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this video is on some fucked up site, dont click it. my friend sent it to me and almost threw up.




May 12 2004 7:21PM
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Naturalbornskier
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skicraze,shut the fuck up. if your gonna be an asshole just dont say anything.




May 12 2004 7:24PM
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bobdole
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propiganda



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May 12 2004 8:24PM
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lineskier10
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its obviously worse from their perspective JD, because they think everything we do is bad and they view us as the devil and their mission in life is to destroy us, and when i say they i mean the fundamentalists, but do you really want another argument or are you just pointing out the incredibly obvious
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May 12 2004 8:35PM
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J.D.
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^More that humiliation and dishonour, as were inflicted in that prison, are considered worse than death in their society. You overgeneralize a bit... 'ALL MUSLIMS HATE YOU AND WISH

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May 12 2004 8:38PM
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J.D.
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ahem. accident. to continue...
'ALL MUSLIMS HATE YOU AND WISH YOU WERE DEAD' is a pretty abysmal attitude to have.

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May 12 2004 8:39PM
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Ski-hobo
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MANY MUSLIM HATE YOU AND WANT YOU DEAD
May 12 2004 8:54PM
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Saba
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another thing to think about is the fact that soldiers who are over in Iraq just getting their time over with are questioning why we're there...when they dont have faith in what the government is doing, it should be a red flag for the rest of us. Im guessing the end of this war will probably be something like vietnam with the US leaving in a quiet retreat disguised as up appeasing forgeing wishes to leave Iraq...
May 12 2004 8:56PM
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NWofMidd
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Dude, it was not quick. It took like 30 seconds. Definitely not clean cutting.
May 12 2004 9:33PM
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lineskier10
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i didnt say all muslims i said all fundamentalist muslims
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May 12 2004 10:11PM
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Phat_Jigga
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May 12 2004 10:37PM
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probert10
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Man, I really get the feeling that some of you guys just can't stand the United States, it's like no matter what we do, we are doing the wrong thing, I'm a little blown away by that. I mean, holy shit, if we killed one Iraqi soldier and the Iraqis killed a thousand american civilians, hypathetically speaking, I think JD would still make an argument saying that the United States was out of line. I seriously don't get it.


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May 13 2004 12:34AM
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Meh42
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What if their were no arguments? What if everyone in the world were nothing but sheep who followed their shepards orders unquestionably? That would be a pretty shitty world, you need to hear both sides of an argument before you can make a truly educated opinion anyway.
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May 13 2004 12:40AM
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canonrider
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'they were killers to begin with'

^most ignorant thing i've ever heard. If your saying stuff like that, and you think that 9/11 was the first american/afghani bloodshed, you shouldnt have started a thread with so much importance
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May 13 2004 1:02AM
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volpetrolski
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^^^ I get that blame too when I can't resist of visiting one of those rightwing republican sites on the net.

As a European ik don't dislike the US, I only dislike current US politics. And I am aware of the hypocrisy of some of the European countries, altough I find that argument rather used to quick by the hawks in the White House, certainly in this case. In former Yugoslavia, they definitely had a point.

That idea to go to Iraq to 'wipe out terrorism' was a big mistake from day one. Linkin Hussein to Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden, the search for WMD',... plain BS. 'the iraqi government is not able to proove that the weapons aren't there'. Com'on!
And the real reason ? not only oil guys. Having a US base in the middle-east is another one, a lot of lucrative deals (they wished!) for US companies who backed Bush during the election again another, but mostly, underlining the fact that the US is superpower nr. 1 in the world.
Thereby liberating the Iraqi people is a nice and very welcome side-effect.

And all that all in the name of the 'fight against terrorism', mymy. Something tells me the number of 'terrorists' (what's in a name) hasn't exactly decreased the past years.

But hey, this discussion is getting old.
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May 13 2004 1:51AM
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flexmacman
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Berg's death gave Bush-Cheney a chance to say how much they deplored the atrocity -- a grand theatrical gesture for the mindless.
It was nothing less than brilliant Bush-Cheney-Pentagon PsyOps for the Global Theater.
May 13 2004 4:12AM
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stixonmtholly
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wrong + wrong = right??


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May 13 2004 6:30AM
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KWagner
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Atually, the beheading of the american took place a few weeks BEFORE the prison abuse scandal. The terrorists just want you to think that it was revenge in order to justify their actions. I think the lack of outrage about this killing is pathetic. it is sick that the american media reports more about this prison abuse 'Scandal' then when these guys saw off an americans head. i have not seen the video but ive heard the audio and its just so sad. i think that the video can be seen on www.michaelsavage.com

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May 13 2004 7:50AM
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wilkesyachtingco
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come on. if you think that these guys really killed berg 'in revenge' for the prison abuse, then i dont know what to say...when was the last time muslim hard liners needed an excuse to kill and american? a jewish american no less. i am sure they were overjoyed. people who remain so cynical when things like this, or the tillman death, or what have you are outside my sphere of comprehension. its not anywhere near what the mps did to the prisoners, as far as any of us know. so dont equivicate the two.










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May 13 2004 8:25AM
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Konsta
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He disappeared 9th of April and his body was found 8th of May. Prison abuse scandal started on 28th of April. I think he was killed after the scandal started because according to BBC netsite one of the men in the video says before the killing of Mr Berg: 'How can a free Muslim sleep well as he sees Islam slaughtered and its dignity bleeding, and the pictures of shame and the news of the devilish scorn of the people of Islam - men and women - in the prison of Abu Ghraib?'

And I think it's good that media doesn't talk about it too much, because publicity is just what those terrorists want.
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May 13 2004 8:36AM
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skisebski
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nobody wants to see that shit, shame on those of you who are looking for the vid or have seen it.




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May 13 2004 10:20AM
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skiierman
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^ like all people have said on this site, the americans are blinded by the censorship of our media. we just want to know whats going on.



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May 13 2004 10:45AM
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flexmacman
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Wake up people.The CIA did it to take the heat off the Pentagon.Berg was wearing a US issued orange prisioner's jumpsuit.
May 13 2004 3:47PM
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the_friesz
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^ Yeah that orange jumpsuit says it all...
May 13 2004 5:18PM
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davidh
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none of those sites work. I want to see it because I want to see what actually happened, not what the media tries to cover up for fear of being sued.




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May 13 2004 5:39PM
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Girays_Brother
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ok first of all.. how can u guys say he was killed before the fucking scandels??? do u have proof, also i am a muslim and in our religion homosexuality is very wrong and the acts that these fucking army guards did to the prisoners was sick, wrong, and just plain demoralizing. being a muslim, i would rather be killed than to have to suck another mans dick, be piled on other men, give other guys hand jobs, and masterbate in front of a camera in front of fucking guys, those fucking homos and that girl has something mentally wrong with her too, i hope she doesnt sleep for a long time and i also hope she gets whats coming for her



i pee on ur face but i dont care..
i take off ur little sisters underwear
shes only three so shes never seen a wee wee
so i told her it was a lollypop and the flavor was salty.
shoved in her mouth, it punctured through her cheek broke the glasses of that three year old geek.
r. kelly did the same but im not about to give him the blame cuz fucking littles girls is just my game
May 13 2004 6:15PM
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davidh
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i just saw the video. It's fucked up. I wish i didnt watch. Nobody deserves that, especially if he was only trying to help rebuild their infastructure.




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May 13 2004 6:43PM
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target=_blank>Vid here. WARNING GOREY AND SHIT






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May 13 2004 6:43PM
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CanadianSkiGod
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just watched it too... the video is not that bad (i mean in terms of 'goryness') but that guy didn't deserve it.

And the Iraqis tortured were, apparently, innocent. But there is rumoured to have over 1000 photos of torturing, and a few videos, and the ones we've seen are just the beginning.

I mean, innocent iraqi men were forced to recreate porno scene, sodomize each other and give themselves blowjobs. MEN.
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May 13 2004 6:58PM
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Raek
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yo we made the mistake of going there... we opened a pandoras box.. we should have never gone there in the first place... do i think that the beheading was wrong YES the guy didnt deserve it they didnt want to be there.. imagine one day if alqaeda came to the us or any country where u may live what would we do ?answer the exact same thing they are doing... the prison thing is a disgrace im a proud american but how can i be proud of the prison things...
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May 13 2004 7:20PM
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Raek
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and for neone that dosent agree with me oh well.... i must admit that i was pissed off at the middle east after 9/11 theres nothing id like to see more than to see bin laden dead.... but nothing justifies what we did there...
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May 13 2004 7:24PM
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five0
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how can u say that...usa going to iraq is different that alqaeda coming to usa...1. they would only come in secrecy b/c they know what would happen...they dont have a hundreds of thoudsnds of troops
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May 13 2004 7:30PM
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Raek
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yo dude just imagine a country lyk north korea that has millions of troops coming into our country... what would u do to defend ur country ? i dont support them but i see where they are coming from
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May 13 2004 7:40PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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flex mac the cia did it eh? youre joking right? cia issued orange jumpsuit. because there is no other place that an orange jumpsuit could be found. and the cia just plain forgot that detail, even in light of the fact that there are observant folks like yourself out there, who are ready to break the case wide open? wow. they really blew it on that one didnt they? careless careless cia.










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May 13 2004 7:44PM
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A_T_K
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click here

it is d-e-f-i-n-a-t-e-l-y graphic, some messed-up shit to watch
May 13 2004 8:37PM
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Naturalbornskier
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May 13 2004 9:27PM
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SmoKinSkier
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I may sound like an asshole but i dont find the Prison Scandal to be a big deal so they dressed them up and took pictures worse things happen all day in our actually prisons and their is no outcry. Interogation and breaking down the prisoners is a part of war we still treat our POWS alot better than they treat ours!




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May 13 2004 9:55PM
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codyody18
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I have the vid, i think we should bomb all those mother fuckers. Watch it and you will understand.... I would rather be ass fucked and beaten than being awake as my head is fucking chopped off.

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May 13 2004 10:28PM
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Sinister
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I understand your anger^,i felt almost the same way when terrorists linked to Al-Qaeda bombed the trains in Madrid,but then I thought that revenge(if there was going to be any,which there hasn't been,we just pulled out of Irak)woulod only cause more pain to other people,and,quite frankly,i don't want innocent people to suffer because someone's thirst for revenge.
Someone said that Mr.Berg(the beheaded)didn't suufer much during the act,and i hope he didn't.

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May 13 2004 11:18PM
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wilkesyachtingco
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watch it and judge for yourself if he did or didnt











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May 13 2004 11:50PM
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Sinister
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I rather not.I am sorry about that tho.I won't judge,i don't want to see it.I am horrified just by the idea.
What did you think?
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May 13 2004 11:52PM
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