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rebel
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You can't aruge that eminem has a talent. His lyrics are colourful, his flow is solid, and his music is just good. On top of all that, he markets himself extremely well. The old adage 'any publicity is good publicity' holds itself especially true for Eminem because he's made himself a controversial figure.

I am questioning, do you think that Eminem only became successful because at the same time he was breaking into the hip hop scene, hip hop music was breaking into the mainstream? In the early 90's most white people were into grunge or alternative music and hip hop music was shunned by these same people. Had Eminem broke into the scene then, do you think he would have been accepted?

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May 11 2004 12:14PM
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manwiththemetalleg
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I thought he was black to be honest, but you seem pretty sure.
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May 11 2004 12:17PM
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KingShit
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I think there is going to be many opinions on this, the way I look at it is like this. Vanila Ice was white and he had his thing back then except he was a fag, I think Dr.Dre would of signed him back then if he was grown up and developed enough to hold his own.

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May 11 2004 12:22PM
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RyanFratua
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i personally think that he has no talent

May 11 2004 12:27PM
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freeskiing04
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i dunno i think he's pretty good, with D12
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May 11 2004 12:56PM
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Jay, I don't think that he would have been as famous or monetarily successful as he is now if hip-hop hadn't been going mainstream. But I don't think there's any doubt that he had to earn his respect in the hip-hop world before he could go anywhere.

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May 11 2004 2:36PM
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DSpin_9
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I hate people that say he has no talent, thats just being gay.. His lyrics are sicker than most of the people out there.. Download and look at the lyrics for 'still don't give a fuck' or 'anyman' and you'll see for yourself.. Lyrically he is better than most anyone else I have listened to to.. It takes talent to write tha much shit for one song.. Bands like franz ferdinand have no talent, they just constantly repeat tehir lyrics in each song, it still sounds good but it's boring
May 11 2004 2:43PM
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manwiththemetalleg
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I hate people who say thing are 'gay'
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May 11 2004 3:19PM
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Lateralis
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hes talented for sure


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May 11 2004 3:58PM
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IrishDrink87
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he definatly has talent. I hate my band so much, but its always stuck in my head, so i had to download it cause i didnt know the words, and it was pissing me off.


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May 11 2004 4:00PM
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davidh
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he is for sure talented. I wonder if you had know idea who he was, and you listened to him, would you know he's white?




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May 11 2004 5:11PM
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ScratchCobra66
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i dont like him.



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May 11 2004 5:13PM
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steeze_it_up
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i hate it when ppl say sumwuns gay like they have a problem with it like a homophobe
personnally i have nothing agenst it but i woodent wanna be one


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May 11 2004 5:15PM
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KingShit
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davidh if I heard Eminem on the radio and had to guess white or black, definetly white man, listen to his voice and listen to some other black relatively to the same style as em, and you will understand what I mean

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May 11 2004 5:17PM
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SKItheBURG
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eminem is probably the most talented mc out there, although i think he owes most of his success to his skin color and dr. dre

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May 11 2004 5:20PM
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rebel
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Another good arguement. I agree with Kami when he says that Eminem had to earn his respect, but now that he has that respect, do you think he'd be as successful if he were black?

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May 11 2004 5:27PM
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canonrider
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For those of you who dont think he has talent, download INFINITE by him... its way before he got popular, and his shit is so tech its disgusting

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May 11 2004 5:28PM
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ScratchCobra66
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i never said he wasint talented he is, i just dont really like his raps or anything, just not my kind of music.



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May 11 2004 5:33PM
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KingShit
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Yes rebel he would of been just as popular, except I think it would of got rid of all this white racist bs and jumpstarted him earlier.

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May 11 2004 5:33PM
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i guess i can trust u but i was pretty sure he was black



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GeneralButtNaked
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its because his first song was funny as hell and then his second hit, the one with dr dre i cant remember it right now, showed the diversity he has as an artist. hes changed alot now though.





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May 11 2004 7:12PM
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P-JO
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Eminem is Whack.




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May 11 2004 8:22PM
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im going to pretend this thread was never made





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May 11 2004 8:26PM
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t-roy
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what i don't like is when rappers 'sing' about shoot-ouits in the streets and killing some folks. it just sounds so stupid..you know what i mean

and yes eminem is pretty talented, he should just change some of his lyrics. i might actually listen to him then





May 11 2004 8:27PM
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i think all rap is gay

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May 11 2004 9:14PM
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well since u think its 'gay' i think it should be demolished forever



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May 11 2004 9:28PM
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CRack is WhAKKC
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May 11 2004 10:01PM
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Gdawg3
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There's no way he would be as popular; he's a novelty and gets the media attention that he does and the adoration from white fans because he's white. Subconsciously or not, white kids are ecstatic to see a white rapper because then they don't feel marginalized by black rappers. They see themselves in eminem- he's the proof for all white kids that it's okay for them to like rap and dress like black people.
I pretty much hate rap in all forms, so as an unbiased observer, I can say that there are less successful rappers than him with much more talent, not to say that he isn't talented.


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May 11 2004 10:27PM
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WIfreeskier
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check out these Eminem tunes, his best in my opinon:

- 'Til I collapse'
- 'I just don't give a fuck'
- 'Still Don't Give a fuck'
- 'The Way I Am'
- 'Rock Bottom'
- 'Marshall Mathers'
- 'Under the Influence'
- 'Drug Ballad'
- 'As The World Turns'

The best D12 songs would have to be:
- 'Pimp Like Me'
- 'Nasty Mind'
- 'Rap Game'
- 'Purple Pills'
- 'Blow My Buzz'
- 'These Drugs'
- 'Girls'
- 'Shit on You'

download all of those and put them on a CD if you really wanna see Eminem and D12 at their best...
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May 11 2004 11:01PM
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i liked his first two albums


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May 11 2004 11:03PM
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delete2
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I havent listend to alot of his music. The stuff I have heard has no meaning at all, like none. Do his songs have any meaning? If so what is he saying?
May 11 2004 11:07PM
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Public_Maverick
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i like the newschool shit, D12 playas
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May 11 2004 11:12PM
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ESB
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I guess his whiteness has made him a bit more of a novelty than other rappers, but I honestly believe that if he were black, he'd still be at the top because I think that his lyrics and style are head and shoulders above anyone else right now. No one raps like Eminem raps.

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May 11 2004 11:26PM
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joker
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eminem brings it harder than all you motherfuckers combined. he's a lyrical genius, an amazing showman, a smart businessman, a clever promoter, a solid actor, and one hell of a father on top of all his other accomplishments. plus, the guy gets more respect from the rest of the black (and white) music and entertainment industry than just about any other celebrity out there.

yeah it sucks that alot of his shit becomes so commercial that you see 12 year old teenie boppers worshipping him, but what do you expect from one of the most amazing people of our generation. don't hate the player, hate the motherfuckers that annoy you by worshipping the player for the wrong reasons

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May 11 2004 11:37PM
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rebel
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I'm not a huge Eminem fan (I'm actually pretty indifferent about his music), but I do agree that he's an extraordinary person. If I could meet one famous person, I think it would be him. He's so intersting, really smart, and I'm hard pressed to think of an entertainer who has ever been able to promote themselves nearly as well Eminem.

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May 12 2004 12:28AM
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Eminem is the absolute shit, i have downloaded almost all of the Eminem/D12 songs that can be downloaded, love it

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May 12 2004 10:14AM
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Gdawg3
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I think he might still be the most respected out there because he does have obvious talent, but without his white 'teenybopper' fans he wouldn't be as big of a commercial success.


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May 12 2004 10:23AM
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KingShit
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Hold up, who would be succesful without 'teenybopper' fans? Actually that is a mentaly retarted statement, lets just count the white people out of his sucess too, for ex. every white person that bought his CD should be not counted cause they are white. That shit is wack.

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May 12 2004 10:27AM
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Au_Champs_Elysees
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those of you out there that say that emminem`s Lyris/Rap don`t appeal to you that`s fine,but His lyris are dope and they tell a stroy for those of you who haven`t figured that out yet.He is a lyrical masermind in every sence of the word.
I personally think that it doesn`t matter whether he was white or black he is loved. Just look at Tupac,He is still loved by everyone. Because like Emminem he had talent
May 12 2004 1:22PM
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Sinister
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I don't think i've ever seen Eminem spelled this way.
I don't like rap in general,the same goes for hip hop,and the same goes for half of the music styles out there.But i do like my beloved carrots.
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May 12 2004 1:42PM
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DSpin_9
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I know, that guy writes eminem like that every time.. He wrote it like that in the best lyrics thread as well! He's the only person that spells it wrong yet he defends him all the time and thinks he's the greatest.. eMinem, only 1 M..
May 12 2004 2:08PM
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SKItheBURG
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bailer are you fucking stupid. em raps about his life and experiences hes had, just like every other artist out there, except he does it way better than most.

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May 12 2004 2:26PM
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he is from detroit. michigan represent


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May 12 2004 4:34PM
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pag
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He's talented and he's a pro at freestyle so I think that he would be respected like now if he would have been there 10 years before but he would be just less rich because it was not the fashion
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May 12 2004 4:42PM
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WIfreeskier
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just download that list i posted, and listen to it all, then you'll have some respect for his lyrical talents
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May 12 2004 6:24PM
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jtski
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mix what gdawg and joker have said into one comment and then you will be where i stand.



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May 12 2004 6:56PM
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hes annoying
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May 12 2004 7:30PM
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DSpin_9
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'I Still Don't give a fuck' should be main priority..
May 12 2004 7:46PM
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Pipe_Munky
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i really give the guy no respect! he's a sick fuck that is playing the victim. all he does is bitch and whine about his childhood and people love him for it. kent kreitler said something along these lines: people love to play the victim and many people THINK they can relate to him.

so he can rhyme words, big deal i can do that. i really hope someone pistol whips that whinny little bitch!





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May 12 2004 9:38PM
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Au_Champs_Elysees
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Eminem does not whine. he talks about his reality and I'm glad that not many people can relate to it. Personaly I can and I understand what this dude is rapping about.. His is trying to warn the general media about the problems drugs can lead to.
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May 12 2004 10:08PM
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moe
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what are u talking about, he isnt white anymore..



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