I see where you are coming from, but I just needed some sneakers because I cringe everytime i'm wearing my Santoni, C&J's, S&M's in a muddy situation.
And I'm not really in to sneakers at all....ahwell.
Collar is an extreme cutaway, totally hip in Italy (for like the past 6 years or so.
Fabric is more plane, the collar was distracting enough.
Just got some new Santoni's in the mail:
Double monk, cognac, goodyear flex, Wilson last. (More formal then the sharp prince last.)