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Full Tilts or Ghosts?

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Benji.
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Im in need of some new boots and i want your opinions. Im looking for a park boot and a backcountry boot at the same time. Probably sounds a little odd but whats the better "in-between" boot?

I know the full tilts can be stiff with the 10 or 8 flex tongue and perfect for anything powder oriented but how solid is the ghost? Can it shred as hard as the tilt in the pow? Thanks
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-ROY-
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well the real question here would be which but fits your foot the best. i wouldnt limit your descision as a consumer based on the insight of fellow newschoolers.com members. You are going to want to refer to your nearest shop and consult with a bootfitter. This man or woman will give you the best advice on choosing boots. Good day to you sir
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Pipe_Munky
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i should say Full Tilt since i kinda work for them now but seriously go with whatever fits your foot.

check out the Dalbello Il Moro and the Lange RX110. you should be able to find something in those lines that fits
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FreeskierBh
Posts: 188 - Karma: 187
Ghosts are great boot! as are dabellos^^. but go to a boot fitter. I promise you wont regret it!
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Bonobo
Posts: 437 - Karma: 11
the ghosts are marketed as a big mountain boot, so i would hope that they could outperform full tilts in the pow, but all of this is irrelevant if the boot doesnt fit your foot, so I would go bootfitter before anywhere else, especially NS.
hope that helps
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thisisastickup
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Ghosts are entirely different from FTs. You are an idiot. Go try both boots on, and if you think they fit the same, then you should probably go play in traffic
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onenerdykid
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I have personally used the Falcon (basis for Ghost) and Seth boots... the fit is actually quite similar for a narrowish foot type.
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cho_och
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full tilts all the way
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arandomname
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Go with whatever fits your foot better.

But if you're too stubborn to do that, I'd go with the Full Tilt Seth Pro because it has a heat-moldable liner so it will likely fit you pretty decently as long as your foot is thin, and then buy a #6 flex tongue for park.

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Heart
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Both are narrow and have heat moldeable liners, but go to a bootfitter for best results.
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wazzucrewskier
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lol the ghost has a heat moldable shell and liner... soooo yeah.  but either way get em fitted
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arandomname
Posts: 1989 - Karma: 18
I was thinking of SPKs for some reason, my bad.  Yeah get them fitted.  The only real benefit to Full Tilts are the interchangeable tongues.
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gpitcher
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if you want park and backcountry, id buy a pair of full tilts and get 2 sets of tounges, there really easy to swap out
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danny.P
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it depends what you are skiing if you are skiing all park go with fts but if you are gonna ski some back country go with gosts
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arandomname
Posts: 1989 - Karma: 18
Not all Full Tilts are made for park.  Seth Morrison Pro, First Chair, and the Konflict are all backcountry boots.  Raichles weren't used for park back when they were around, so I don't see why everyone thinks Full Tilts are only made for park.
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charmander
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this, the shell on my boots is pretty similar to the ghost, mine fit great, full tilts also fit me prettt good.
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wazzucrewskier
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not trying to sound like a dick but i honestly dont know.  i thought all full tilts were the exact same shell, but just had different flex tongues.  is there anything structural on the shell other than the boot board that makes the booter different from a seth? 
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onenerdykid
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what mostly changes within any company's boot line are flex, liner, boot board, buckles. FT is no different- the models in the Original series all use the same shell/tongue design but what changes are buckles (plastic or metal), boot boards (hard or soft), tongue durometer (flex), and liners. Booter is on the Influence series now, so it has different shell/tongue design as well as the other changes (except buckle changes).
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gpitcher
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this guy is legit
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cho_och
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i personly say full tilts but you should definetly get your foot fited
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wazzucrewskier
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Seriously you are the best member on this site.  Thanks so much for that response.  Great info.  So it sounds like Seth, First Chair, and Konflict would all be exactly the shame shell wise minus differences in the boot board and tongue if I am getting this right?  So it sounds like you can basically buy the upgraded boot board and tongue to make the other models similar to a Seth?

Thanks again man!
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arandomname
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The only boots that you can make pretty much 100% into the Seth are the First Chair and Konflict.  For the Konflict, you just need the 10 flex tongue and for the First Chair you just need the active boot board.  All the other ones have either a little bit different liner, a wider last, a litte bit of a roomier fit, or different buckles (which probably don't make much difference anyways).

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wazzucrewskier
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Right on thanks for the clarification man.  Good stuff to know.
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Benji.
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Thanks everyone. +K for all

I got the Konflicts with footbeds and im stoked

I might look into a 10 or 6 tongue depending what kind of riding ill be able to do this winter. whatever the case im stoked.

Thanks again
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schmies
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AS most everyone said, you NEED to try both on. I personally LOVE the Salomon Ghost. It is a freeride boot, but kills it on everything. Park, pow, skinning, whatever.

Rubber on the bottom is sick for hiking and the thick tongue, giant power strap and smooth flex (surprising for a 130 flex boot!) makes it a powerful boot for pow and chopped up snow but it is definitely not a shin-braker. As I said, I ski it in park and it works awesome. Sammy, TJ and Frank Raymond and a bunch of dudes used it as a park boot for a while too. Shock absorber in the heel like the SPKs makes your heels happy on hard landings. Lace up system in the liner keeps your foot in place and I also use a Booster strap for extra hold on the upper cuff.

I used to ski the Salomon Pro Models (1080 Boots) for years if it is any comparison. Again, that is just my experience, but you need to try both to see what works!
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shocker611
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can anyone answer me why full tilt isnt making a stiffer tongue for the booter this year? REALLY pisses me off.. the highest they go is a 6 and since the booter fits me the best outta any boot on the market i bought it, but now it will be shitty in the pow
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arandomname
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I'm pretty sure they'll get stiffer tongues as the season gets closer.  Just give it some time.
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shocker611
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"We do not have anything stiffer than 6 for this season." Direct quote from them.. i feel like this is a play to try to force people to buy multiple pairs of boots, and it seems ridiculous
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