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Prisoner Dilemma (Homework Help)

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ECB
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Prisoner Dilemma Using Theories

Describe what each theory would do (or should do for that matter) in regards to prisoner dilemma.

1)Liberalism
2)Realism
3)Neoliberalism
4)Neorealism
5)Constructivism
6)Radicalism
7)Marxism




This is going to be my quiz tomorrow in class, so any help would be appreciated. It's not my major, just a gen ed requirement, so I don't really care if I absorb the info or not.

So far, I know that Realist would both (or both should) speak, using their ideas when applied to prisoner dilemma


+K for good answers, and maybe some e-cookies
Sep 28 2010 1:49AM
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RubberSoul
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no offense to your teacher but wow, what stupid homework
Sep 28 2010 1:51AM
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Sep 28 2010 1:52AM
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ECB
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technically not actually homework, my t.a. just told me this is basically the quiz, and i need to write about 2-3 sentences for each one tomorrow
Sep 28 2010 1:52AM
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RubberSoul
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ohh ok

in that case, no offense to your TA but that is the dumbest quiz ever
Sep 28 2010 1:54AM
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ECB
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Yes, yes it is. And we are going to have only 10 minutes to do it.

Fuck gen ed requirements
Sep 28 2010 1:55AM
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ECB
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I might put word for word what you put on my test haha

But really, thanks, those are good examples for how I will remember

Oh and you already at 10, so here's a cookie

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Sep 28 2010 2:56AM
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RubberSoul
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hahaha those arent even close
Sep 28 2010 1:15PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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haha I have a BA in Political Science and I can't remember any of this
Sep 28 2010 1:33PM
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Bob_Loblaw
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Neoliberalism is the exact opposite of what that guy said. It's about liberalizing markets and increased globalization and decreased restrictions.


Sep 28 2010 1:36PM
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freestyler540
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Here is my opinion:
1)Liberalism: Argue that the prison life is unfair, immoral and should be eliminated. He may kill himself.
2)Realism: Accepts the fact he is in prison. There is no cause, but he simply ended up here. He will do nothing.
3)Neoliberalism: Prison is a economic thing. He sees he is being held back from profit. This kind of thinking will pay himself free.
4)Neorealism I have absolutly no idea what the hell is neorealism. You can get more real.
5)Constructivism: Will see that prison is about paying for your crimes to society. He will purge his sentence and try to get out a better person.
6)Radicalism: Claims incarceration is social control. He will attempt to escape and seek vengeance to everyone involved in the judicial system
7)Marxism: Claims that everyone is equal, so either everyone is in the can, or nobody goes, including him. May appeal his sentence.
Sep 28 2010 1:50PM
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freestyler540
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What? really? do you care about your grades?

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Sep 28 2010 2:01PM
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Tasche
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None of you know what the prisoner dilemma is.

so...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

basically there are 4 outcomes,

1) they both talk
2-3) one of them talks
4) they both stay silent

you guys are retards.
Sep 28 2010 2:08PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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hahaha yea I was like wtf
Sep 28 2010 4:03PM
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RubberSoul
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just for the record, i know the fucking prisoner's dilemma, which is why i said that is a really dumb assignment
Sep 28 2010 4:11PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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uhhh why? seems like a pretty standard political science excercise to me
Sep 28 2010 4:15PM
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RubberSoul
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whatever just opinions, i just think it's dumb. it's like some busy work you'd be given in earlier years of school. "what would a marxist do in the prisoner's dilemma?" ..stupid..
Sep 28 2010 4:18PM
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RubberSoul
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what i mean to say is the prisoner's dilemma is a dumb place to talk about how those schools of thought would manifest themselves.. it's very.. essentialist
Sep 28 2010 4:22PM
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Tasche
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wow, you are a douche bag.

This is assignment is designed for you to do research on different political ideals and decide where they fit in a simple competition model.

Just for my own curiosity how far did you make it in the education system?
Sep 28 2010 4:32PM
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RubberSoul
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haha why are you getting so heated because i said it's a dumb assignment? did you invent this assignment?

i understand the idea of it completely. but like i said, i think it's a dumb way to go about it. that's not really such a crazy thing to say, and i can back up my opinion

i just graduated college with a 3.7 (not saying that's super impressive, just.. why are you doing the ol' call-my-education-level-into-question?) if youre insinuating that i dont understand the model, well.. fuck you haha. my whole problem with it is that it's painfully generalized and essentialist

bad day? youre usually a way less douchey poster
Sep 28 2010 4:41PM
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Tasche
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ya I am bored as shit today, trying to troll a little bit but I think I lost the taste for it...
Sep 28 2010 4:43PM
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RubberSoul
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haha i think we all get in those moods
Sep 28 2010 4:45PM
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hey-dude-its-me
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haha yea thats how human beings learn things bro, master the basics and then advance
Sep 28 2010 6:04PM
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RubberSoul
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naw i know, and i admit i probably wouldnt be a good teacher, but in this case i think it's just.. simplified to a fault.

whatever, anyway, ECB howd you do on it guy?
Sep 28 2010 7:22PM
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ECB
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The quiz was easier than expected, as in much easier.

We did an in class version of prisoner dilemma, using realist and liberals. Then we had to explain what happened, and what should have happened, using only liberalism, realism, neorealism and neoliberalism.

Basically, liberals are supposed to not talk in theory, because it betters everyone, while realists are supposed to talk in theory, because it betters themselves, but in class, people from both side talked and didn't talk.


As for Gnarton's response, no, I was not actually going to use that on a quiz, I do care about my education and grades, but when its 3am, and that's the only response I get besides what a dumb quiz, it brightens up my day, and made me want to study more.
Sep 28 2010 9:18PM
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