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2011/2012 Gear

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Kangbang
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i know its a little to early, but i saw a pair of atomics that had white top sheets on saga's blog.
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Sep 15 2010 8:12PM
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DOSE.
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what model are these? since we've already seen the hot doggers, i thought this might be the booter. but i don't see why they would use the new design for the booters only one year. if not what is this?
Jan 11 2011 6:52PM
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TaySwift
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nowi  just look stupid, just search pokemone white and black
Jan 11 2011 6:54PM
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Kangbang
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New model called the "Drop Kick".
Jan 11 2011 6:55PM
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J-Neal
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YES YES YES

Jan 11 2011 6:59PM
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cobra_commander
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your a fucking faggot for quoting that.
Jan 11 2011 6:59PM
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*simba*
Posts: 9125 - Karma: 512
Straight from Brobomb!

"Today’s leak comes from the magical workshop of the SurfCausJoy conglomerate. “THESE” are the new rail/minishred skis from Joystick. Word is that they’ve got full wood cores, mini-cap, and they’ll be weighing in at 175cm and 129/92/129."

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Jan 11 2011 7:04PM
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DUKES
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what the fuck is with the 175 length, most skiers are midgets
Jan 11 2011 7:16PM
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blatt
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so basically a watch life with a different top sheet
Jan 11 2011 7:47PM
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rudager
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nah man, look at the dimensions. New ski. Looks pretty fun. Wish it came in longer lengths.
Jan 11 2011 7:49PM
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DUKES
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if it came in a 178 it would be close to becoming the next anthem
Jan 11 2011 7:51PM
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J-Neal
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haha aw thanks man, quality post!

Jan 11 2011 8:46PM
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mmallender.
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really? was that necessary?
Jan 11 2011 9:05PM
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andrew95
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he is excited... leave him alone
after all isent that the whole point to this thread?
Jan 11 2011 9:12PM
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Krotchs_Brother
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haha i definetely didnt. the chronic are the tie die ones and the abang are the green ones. i saw this from someone else but im positive this is labeled right. i messed up on the ep/opus or w.e its called. i believe it is prophet, opus or w.e its called, ep and then blend chronic and abang
Jan 11 2011 9:20PM
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DUKES
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yeah i was the one who labeled the skis, because the ones with the skulls have a skate construction so step up, and the skis left of the abangs have a wider waist thn the abangs and step ups, but not as wide as the ones left of them which are blends, so blends, chronics, abangs, step up
Jan 11 2011 9:42PM
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Krotchs_Brother
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haha ya, it makes sense. i dont know what the other ppl were talking about. also, i realized after reading my last post i kinda sounded like a dick to those ppl, sorry if i came off like a dick. (haha get it, came, dick. oh im so fuckin hilarious)
Jan 11 2011 9:49PM
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Krotchs_Brother
Posts: 1133 - Karma: 3,006
hahaha
Jan 11 2011 10:26PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
om nom nom nom

2012 Line "Mr Pollards Opus"   tip/waist/tail: 144-118-141 with 25cm X 15mm tip and tail rocker... and of course early taper... but don't quote me on the rocker specs. Also stiffer than the EP pro.

2012 Line SFB are 108 at the waist, and have more gradual rocker? also a little stiffer than my old 09 model was.
Jan 11 2011 10:39PM
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84891jnf92048
Posts: 11552 - Karma: 2,550
they need to make a race ski with a wider tail and a core made of pure hopes and dreams now to be cool?

shit....
Jan 11 2011 10:49PM
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zahava
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No more EP pros?
Jan 11 2011 10:51PM
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Bonzalo
Posts: 2593 - Karma: 1,812
What are you talking about, they have square tips.
Jan 11 2011 10:59PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
Nope. I am told it is because as the drops/jumps get bigger, a fat fat fat ski is a harsher impact in powder, and wash out easier. But I am also told they float just fine.

Oh, also... SFB bases are classic stripes, but in rasta coloring. Pollards Opus are the Rising Sun, but black and white instead of Red and white.
Jan 11 2011 10:59PM
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jkauffman22
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for threads aagain
Jan 11 2011 11:01PM
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Bonzalo
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hahaha, my bad it looks like square tips in this picture.

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Jan 11 2011 11:08PM
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84891jnf92048
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realistically, its just another ski that surface makes branded with joystick, so you cant REALLY say "foray into the skiing market".

but it is surfaces/joysticks first softer, symmetrical park ski.

and surface already has a few pretty groundbreaking skis, such as the new lifes/one lifes.
Jan 11 2011 11:11PM
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541
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new rossignols.
Jan 11 2011 11:14PM
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84891jnf92048
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pretty cool i guess.

they are the same old S7's, just a new topsheet.

i honestly believe rossi has some work to do on marketing. they make solid skis, boots and bindings, (not something every ski company can claim) but they seem to market it in a way that just does not help them in most of the newschool market.
Jan 11 2011 11:15PM
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Mr.Fister
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I agree, their outerwear is pretty decent also.
Jan 11 2011 11:22PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
No actually that is the Super 7. And judging by the popularity this season, they are marketing that model just fine.
Jan 11 2011 11:22PM
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84891jnf92048
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this is true.

im talking more about the S4, S5, S6 range. they are great skis, but you just dont see people riding them. and they completely fucked up the SAS range by basically ending it after 3 years, and adding in a whole bunch of other skis, such as the SC stuff, making it completely whack.

If they had just stuck with the SAS idea, a new graphic by a new artist for each ski out of a line of 7 skis every year, it would have been dope.
Jan 11 2011 11:29PM
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Balto
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minus the fact that surface own JS, im sure they had the same facility make it with the same materials also. its a surface ski through and through, I don't care if they say its not
Jan 11 2011 11:34PM
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541
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s7 195s
Jan 11 2011 11:37PM
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84891jnf92048
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read inside dirt. its definitely made in the surface factory.
Jan 11 2011 11:38PM
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84891jnf92048
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we can argue about this all day, but i think we can reach a common ground.

Designed by the guys at joystick, influenced by joystick's skiers.

Produced by Surface.

no?
Jan 11 2011 11:45PM
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yellav
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freeski brands owns joystick, surface and causwell
Jan 11 2011 11:52PM
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Mt_Baker_Man
Posts: 2012 - Karma: 105
Yellav knows all! Hear him and rejoice!
Jan 12 2011 12:43AM
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Session
Posts: 5379 - Karma: 22,193
So to sum it up:

Made by the same company that makes surface
Surface an Joystick are essentially the same company
But it's not a Surface it's 100 percent joystick

Pretty much the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It's a Surface.
Jan 12 2011 10:27AM
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Session
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P-90 and 100 are remodeled with some minimalist tip rocker, new flatter tails with longer rear running surfaces and a new metal matrix. The former P-100 is now a 98. There is a new 105 and the returning 115 both with similar rise to the current 115.
Jan 12 2011 10:30AM
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matt22matt
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ya but im sure itll hype up a lot of kids and kids will buy these next year.
Jan 12 2011 10:35AM
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onenerdykid
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Here are some of the 11/12 Atomic Freeski boots:

The Volt: 98mm, 110 flex, Micro Fiber liner, new Silicon insert behind the heel to absorb impacts on switch landings (does not offset length due to new heel cup design)
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The Overload Reactor: 102-6mm, 100 flex, same heel cushioning system of Volt, relaxed/upright geometry
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The Tracker 130 Intuition: 98mm, 130 flex, 5mm raised construction for more leverage on wide skis, Custom Intuition liner with hard Alpine sole and plastic tongue
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Jan 12 2011 12:08PM
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Grilledsteeze212
Posts: 211 - Karma: 137
the overload reactor looks sick
Jan 12 2011 1:47PM
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Mr_pretzel
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Looks like a softer ghost.
Jan 12 2011 1:54PM
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.nasty
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looks like an SPK gone blue to me... haha
Jan 12 2011 2:04PM
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onenerdykid
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Salomon did blaze the way with a 2-buckle design but this has a way narrower heel and actually adapts to the width of your foot.
Jan 12 2011 2:24PM
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cobra_commander
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May just be the pick, but that does not look very 'upright' to me. Also will the access be a real 130 this year or still be the same flex as a hawx 110?
Jan 12 2011 2:51PM
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.nasty
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and I'm sure I'd love the atomic boot more, seeing as SPK's were absolutely horrible in my experience..
Jan 12 2011 2:54PM
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onenerdykid
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we played around with a bunch of forward lean + ramp angle combinations, and what we think works well is 15 degree forward lean, 4 ramp. I know there are other brands with less forward lean (but also depends on how you measure it, there are ways to claim things, just like forefoot width) and this is what worked for us along with the rest of the specific geometry.

depending on what Tracker you tried on (the SIA boots last year were actually too soft), these are a stiffer durometer and with a cuff insert. Should be a true 130, it tests the same as our CS 130 during the -20 degree freezer flex test.
Jan 12 2011 3:01PM
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GayWolf420
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Its made in the surface factory but the design is completely different from any ski from surfaces line. Full wood core, Comes in one size and built for minishred/rails. Basically a jibbing only ski.
Jan 12 2011 3:03PM
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Session
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So it's a Surface.
Jan 12 2011 3:24PM
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Canuker
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adapts to the width of your foot?! thats sick!

Especially for someone with wide feet like myself.

Jan 12 2011 3:40PM
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