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Colleges pass are great and all.... but how about those that cant make the money after college how do we ski?

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Holyflyingskiman
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I think there should be a post college pass for at least 4 years. I know I'm poor as shit and cant pay the 1000 adult pass. who is with me?
Sep 13 2010 11:06PM
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ScuffDUFF
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If you have been though college you should be more then capable of being able to afford a $1000 pass....
Sep 13 2010 11:13PM
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Holyflyingskiman
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find me a job that pays more then 9 dollars a hour and i will be more then happy to take it.
Sep 13 2010 11:16PM
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Holyflyingskiman
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I bet your still in high school.
Sep 13 2010 11:20PM
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ScuffDUFF
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actually about to graduate a 2 year trade school for instrumentation in october. Maken around $30 an hour. No big deal. Trade schools are the way to go and dawg i have freinds in high school with $10 an hour jobs.
Sep 13 2010 11:23PM
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treebeard
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work at the mountain.
Sep 13 2010 11:24PM
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BWalmer
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Go back school man...trust me, it's worth it, you'll get all the college discounts still and you'll be in a better position to find a job when you get out again. I'm 22 and I'm a Freshman again, even after graduating already, I realized there was no jobs (let alone in my field of study), so I took out some more loans and went back to school with a different major - now I have options when I get back out and hopefully this shit storm of an economy will be in a better position (hell, I might even get my masters so I can make more money - remember, the more educated you are, the more money you can command).
Sep 13 2010 11:29PM
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Leeyum
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yeah totally in this economy - and the average student loan rates your totally right bra!
Sep 14 2010 1:13AM
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ScuffDUFF
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well im doin good i duno about you so suck the cock.
Sep 14 2010 1:33AM
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Holte
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Should have taken enough Photoshop classes to forge a transcript...
Sep 14 2010 2:13AM
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Rachy
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I just decided to work in the ski industry so that I can get paid low wages but ski most anywhere for free.

It will even out at some point... maybe.

But seriously, $800+ a month in student loans is killing me. Yes, I will consolidate, but I had a lot of trouble with 1 of them at first and can't until I fix that one.
Sep 14 2010 2:19AM
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Bar_Down
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hang on bro, you cant find a job that pays more than 9$/hr?
Sep 14 2010 3:06AM
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eheath
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Get a fucking job and save up.
Sep 14 2010 3:07AM
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Capurnicus
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Fuck you man, the economy sucks, everything is super expensive, and life is hard. I'm a college grad and $1000 is a fierce chunk of change that I definitely do not have.
Sep 14 2010 8:53AM
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WikiWiki
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but that would be harrrrddd
Sep 14 2010 9:00AM
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Dntel.
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clearly, everyone in this thread who is hating on OP and saying get a job, has no inclination of what it is to pay for EVERYTHING in your life. Otherwise, they would understand that $1000 dollars to someone fresh out of college is an enormous amount of money. So many spoiled mother fuckers on here, and i'm not just talking about HS kids.
Sep 14 2010 9:39AM
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Holyflyingskiman
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dude i have a job, also i have rent, bills and student loans. My job just doesn't pay shit.
Sep 14 2010 9:50AM
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Dntel.
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EEEEEEXactly
Sep 14 2010 9:53AM
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Holyflyingskiman
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All I'm saying is having post grad season passes at student prices would be really nice.
Sep 14 2010 10:06AM
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Dr.Rick_Marshall
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you should have renewed your student id right before graduation. I work with 30 year old guys that are still getting college discounts, because it doesnt expire for 6 years i believe.
Sep 14 2010 10:59AM
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gfanuckaa
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^ that wont work cuz u need a sealed letter of approval by your college proving your fulltime status and yea this kid is right on the money for those who actually are done with college
Sep 14 2010 11:44AM
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yellav
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lol where do you work again?
Sep 14 2010 11:49AM
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eheath
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Sounds like you need a new job. Or sell drugs.
Sep 14 2010 11:53AM
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eheath
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Use that 4 year degree for something, you should be able to make 20-40k out of college, depending on your major even more.
Sep 14 2010 11:54AM
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Mr.Bishop
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MSSI resorts in quebec have an awesome pass for guys exactly like you. If you're between the ages of 26 and 36 they have a full season's pass for $431 taxes in. Super nice deal for those between school and awesome career.

Sep 14 2010 12:07PM
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bob_dole
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its not like people are standing outside of your graduate party with wide open arms to welcome you into the job you just went to school for. remember just in the city you graduated in there is your entire class now looking for that shit, plus others schools' similar programs. the world doesnt turn as easy as i have a degree im going to make bank now. no no.
Sep 14 2010 12:25PM
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Mike-O
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It's fun to know you live in a happy fantasy world with rainbows and unicorns, and yet you are a such a negative wiseass.
Sep 14 2010 12:31PM
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meeesh
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Yep. This will solve all your problems. And depending on what mountain & which job... You might just get paid more in the process (though this is wishful thinking).
Sep 14 2010 12:31PM
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VTtreeskier
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Enjoying my last year of college passes this season, just paid 300 for season pass to cb and gonna only pay 200 for rocky mountain pass to winter park and copper, such a steal. My plan next year is working at a resort (fuck getting a real job right now), as many people have already said, and saving as much as I can for trips.
Sep 14 2010 12:36PM
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SnowRidgeParks
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This was going to be my exact response. Of course, it only works if you're willing to work in the industry, surround yourself with what you love, give up a lot of the time actually spent skiing, and take lower wages as you climb your way up in the industry. For me though, it was totally worth it. Despite what people say about the ski industry, you can make money in it, you just have to be good at what you do and really love the sport.
Sep 14 2010 12:47PM
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SFBv420.0
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dear recent college grads welcome to the real world 101

I'll be your instructor Mr. Skibum Mcobvious

Todays lesson is

SKILLS PAY THE BILLS

any questions before we get started?

Sep 14 2010 12:49PM
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TravelsTI
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Trade school is for slackers, no the way to go.
Sep 14 2010 12:52PM
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eljefe
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Until you stop trading hours for dollars and working for someone making their dreams come true, you aren't doin very well.

Its not that I'm even sympathizing with the OP, this is the first year I don't qualify for college rates and of course I would rather not pay a grand for a pass, but with that being said, getting a college degree in order to get 'job security' to work for 30-45 years to retire on 1/2 to a 1/3rd of what wasn't enough in the firstplace is a fuckin hoax. The real issue here isn't season passes, its the fact that ya'll are subscribing to a broken system.

Just my $0.02, but face it, the rich don't get rich workin for someone else, and the rich don't worry bout passes...

"A positive attitude will not get the desired result every time; however, a negative one surely will!!"



Sep 14 2010 12:53PM
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vincepru
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great advice!

i am basically doing the same thing man, 22 and soph. going back and trying to get into med school.

architecture led me nowhere.



Sep 14 2010 1:11PM
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Tripplesixty
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it comes down to life style choices... You made the choice to go to college or not to go to college... If you chose a shit major that doesn't pay or you cant find a job, well then what did you expect?

It comes down to this no one can have everything they want, especially people straight out of college. Its a life balance, if skiing were THAT important to you, you would sacrifice something to pay for that pass. Get rid of that unlimited txt'ing plan, thats $20 a month, $240 a year. Kill that cable TV plan of yours thats probably close to $1000 a year. Quit wasting $60 a the bar every weekend. There are things all over the place that you can cut out of your life to pay for skiing. I know people who live on less than $15,000 a year an can afford one of those expensive season passes. Yes, skiing is expensive and college passes are nice, but if you want to keep doing it, grow up, take responsibility and make life balance choices. We cant all get every that we want in life.
Sep 14 2010 1:13PM
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SFBv420.0
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lesson 2

If you are truely passionate about something you will find a way to pursue that passion

Sep 14 2010 1:19PM
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JsNeagle
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i would genuinely question whether you're doing "good"
Sep 14 2010 1:21PM
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TravelsTI
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couldn't have said it any better
Sep 14 2010 1:25PM
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Tripplesixty
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ooo and thats not to mention that my college pass was $800 a year (Big Sky MT)
Sep 14 2010 1:27PM
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Capurnicus
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I just graduated this May, and I'm gonna tell you straight up that if you really think that you just waltz out of college into a 20-40k job, you're in for a serious reality check.

I know a lot of dudes that pulled 3.5-4.0 GPA's at really good schools and are having a hell of a time finding employment. One of my buddies went to Amherst (ranked #2 in the country for liberal arts college http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges)
and he got a very good GPA, because he's a smart motherfucker. I'm not sure what his GPA was, but I'm pretty sure it was at least 3.6-3.7. Anyways, he doesn't have a job.

He's only one of my friends that is having an issue finding employment, and a lot of my other buddies are also well qualified and smart. Even if you do get a job, there's soo much shit to pay for, it's retarded. Rent, loans, car fixings, everything just piles up.

For these reasons I think this attitude of " oh just go get a job and pay for it" is rather silly and displays a lack of knowledge as to what real life post college is actually like.
Sep 14 2010 1:40PM
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-justice-
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/\  seriously.

I know way more people who are spending their immediate post-graduate time moving back home to save money and looking for work.  If you're one of those people saying "You have a degree, get a job." you need a fucking reality check.   There's a recent AP article stating that about 1/2 of the unemployed are recent grads. 

I sympathize with the OP.  I've spent at least 3 months looking for worthwhile work and am only working part time as a barista right now.  And I'm one of the lucky ones.  I hired and trained a 56 person staff and helped run a freshman orientation, and I can't even get a job doing event sales and planning.   I am going to be a part-time instructor so I can get a discounted season pass at a crummy resort during the winter just so I can get my fix. 
Sep 14 2010 1:50PM
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SFBv420.0
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 ^^^^^is it like real life except you spent 4 years for a piece of paper?

Hope ya at least had fun got laid and enjoyed it

Sep 14 2010 1:55PM
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SkierX
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It all comes down to lifestlye choices. If there is a will, there is a way.

Yes, skiing is expensive, but noone says you need to be on the newest skis and have the most fancy outerwear. Noone is saying you need to ski at the most expensive, fancy resorts.

Wear older outerwear, buy used skis. Save your bar money for the month and put it towards a seasons pass at a smaller mountain with cheaper seasons passes. Ditch the cable tv and watch your tv on the internet.

If you love the sport enough, there is a way to get it done. It may require sacrifices, but you need to determine what you value the most.
Sep 14 2010 2:00PM
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ESAND
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Don't pay a 1000 fucking dollars for a seasons pass.
Sep 14 2010 2:11PM
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meeesh
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Really it's not hard to live how you want and squeak by. I have a degree in some science shit and don't use it... I make 26k a year (not that much) in a ski shop. They pay for one of my passes & discount the other. Yes I cand BARELY afford my bills but my life is 100% happy :) when there's a will, there is a way.
Sep 14 2010 2:12PM
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Triple_Strum
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Use your skills and be smart.  If you are single and out of college - you should have no problem at all scraping together $1000.  Seriously.  And yes, I have MORE than enough experience to say this.  I graduated with a masters in teaching and was making $37,000 a year, which is well below average.  Yet, because I was single and have few expenses it was a lot of money.  I don't care where you are and what your "economy" is like, if you have a college degree and you can't make 25,000 then there is no one to blame but yourself.  I couldn't find a teaching job this year due to moving.  I have found other ways to provide - and I have a wife and a baby on the way.  Hard work seems to be something lost in our culture, sadly.  If you really have no better drive than to find a $10 an hour job, work 60 hours a week for a couple of months to save up.  But lamenting on the internet when you coudl be out earning money is a little bit lame.  I agree, it isn't easy.  I am not saying that it is.  But perhaps this could be a time to change your viewpoint and see it as an opportunity that forces you do either do something you like or work hard at something you don't to get what you desire.

I would like to say that let's not forget that skiing is an enormous privilege.  If you never get to ski another day in your life it will have been better than 99.9% of people who have come before you in terms of your quality of life.  Thankfulness makes your perspective different.

Sep 14 2010 2:13PM
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Holyflyingskiman
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I dont have cable tv, I'm stealing this internet right now. I use the wal mart $30 a month phone. I dont go out drinking. I'm a cheap ass mother f/er because I have to be. I work 40 hours a week and just getting. oh and I havent gotten new skis or outerwear for 3 years now.

Capurnicus seems to be the only one that gets it.

Triple Strum that's great for you. But like you I'm a hard worker and have a wife. In the spring I was working 3 jobs 2 ended due to being seasonal. And since then I have yet to be able to find another job besides the one I have right now and as I'm typing this I'm job hunting making a list of places to visit as well applying online, and I do that at least 3 times a week. I have re done my resume, cover letters and all of that even had my college review it for me. So I cant really blame my self.

And Back to the point I was trying to get across more ski places should make pass deals like Bishop posted.
Sep 14 2010 2:35PM
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Rachy
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This thread irritates me.


I have 9 years of work experience, a degree, great references.... I've interviewed with Hurley, Armada, 686, S4, Malakye, and a few others in less than a year.

I worked for 2 months making $25 an hour full time for a clothing company... then the company went under and I got laid off.

Other than that, my 2 best jobs have been assistant manager (general manager for 1 month while the manager had her baby) of a Hotel... making an awesome $11 an hour while assistant and $16 as the general manager. And making around $10 an hour as an outside sales rep for a ski resort.

I have no problem getting the interviews... But I'm young and there are so many that have been laid off recently that will get hired before me. I keep getting emails saying how great I am and that they are keeping my info on record and blah blah blah... doesn't mean shit. But hey, the 32 year old that got laid off from quicksilver probably got the job over me... cause I dont have the same experience.


It is HARD to get a job over $12 (min at $8) an hour right now... I look every single day and it seems I will still be going back for another winter to make $12 an hour.

Maybe we should have all gone to school for IT, and Engineering.... It is actually kinda happening right now and those markets will get flooded just like every other market.


Now back to the OP. Yes, $1000 is a lot to spend on a pass when the offer it at $300 for students and your life is actually worse off than when you were in college. There just isn't any way for them to determine different price levels based on economic status. I'm pretty sure them asking for a copy of your taxes wouldn't fly.

The ski industry is trying to figure it out though. Many places have adopted college passes in the last 10 years solely to grow the sport. College is easy to prove... economic hardship is not.
Sep 14 2010 2:39PM
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Triple_Strum
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fair enough.  Well one thing that no one here probably wants to mention is that maybe when you grow up you don't get to ski as much?  In college I went probably 50 days a year on a short southeast coast season.  Now I bet I get 5 days a year in.  Sad, I know.  But such is life.  But in all honesty, I hope you find a great job.  I know being stressed about bills, etc, every month is no fun :/
Sep 14 2010 2:41PM
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SkierX
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There are a lot of places where you can choose to ski that do not cost big bucks to ride at. They may have old, slow lifts, but you will grow to love them more than the mega-resorts that do have the massive price-tags.

Seek out those smaller mountains and learn to appreciate them and use them to satisfy your skiing itch while you work out the financial kinks in your life.
Sep 14 2010 2:45PM
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Holyflyingskiman
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I know how that is last year I got in about 15 days, and thanks.
Sep 14 2010 2:48PM
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