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How to speed check?

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Muhammad
Posts: 420 - Karma: 23

So I knuckle and overshoot a lot of jumps the first time I try them.  How can I learn the speed perfectly so that I don't have to worry about this?

Yes, I did create an account just to ask this. 

Sep 3 2010 5:41PM
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VCharette
Posts: 4276 - Karma: 1,047
Just look at other people hitting the jump and try to get a similar speed by doing as many speed check as them etc. Also it's always better to go faster than slower ( to an extent)
Sep 3 2010 5:44PM
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hue.
Posts: 1518 - Karma: 220
let some other kid go first and follow them off?
Sep 3 2010 5:45PM
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Taubie05
Posts: 53 - Karma: 11
exactly, but make sure you're looking at people relatively your size.  cause where some little kid may need to tuck the whole thing, a heavier person will have to make some turns.  so make sure you size up the people you're watching
Sep 3 2010 5:57PM
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paulmay
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yeah, but what it you are the first one to ever try that jump
Sep 3 2010 5:58PM
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VCharette
Posts: 4276 - Karma: 1,047
Then you're not a retard that always overshoots/undershoots jumps
Sep 3 2010 6:00PM
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TOK
Posts: 2928 - Karma: 2,540
then it's all about experience. Consider the size of table/ amount of lip, snow conditions, and the condition of your bases. If it feels to slow, it probably is too slow. If it feels too fast, you're probably about right.
Sep 3 2010 6:01PM
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Malcolm
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I usually ask someone whos been getting the landing good if i can follow them off.
Sep 3 2010 6:08PM
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tom.skier
Posts: 817 - Karma: 392
Just drop from the same place everyone else is? That's what I normally do for the first few hits to gain a better feel for the jump.
Sep 3 2010 6:09PM
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TheDude
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ride up the the jump regular speed. (with enough time to stop) do a hockey stop to the top of the jump. this should give you a good judge of how fast it is and how fast/ slow you need to go.

especially if you 1. dont top soon enough and slide off the top of the jump or
2. if you dont go high enough and have to ski back down.

we do this almost every new day just to see what the jump conditions are like.
Sep 3 2010 6:09PM
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YoungJah
Posts: 1106 - Karma: 66
Speed checks are for posers.

Haaaa...
Sep 3 2010 6:11PM
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RubberSoul
Posts: 11249 - Karma: 14,642
i always wonder what that's like to hit the same jumps every day. probably get such a good feel for them. i dont ski often enough to have that happen for me, i honestly cant remember more than one instance where i hit the same park two days in a row. must be nice to know the speeds for jumps so well

anyway so i do a good amount of speed checking cause there's not always someone around to ask. if you feel okay about it and it's not a huge table (for you) just check it out (preferably on the way up the lift if you can, too) and like maxxie i think said, if it feels too fast youre probably going too fast, and if it feels too slow youre probably going too slow. that sounds dumb but its true, i feel like most of the time its mostly just a subconscious feeling. keep in mind how lippy it is, how tall the wedge is, and how steep and long the landing is

anyway if it's huge or weird or different or whatever, try to ask someone (your size etc) how the speed is and where they start, how many turns they take etc. even better, ask them if you can follow them off of it. most people that are comfortable in the park (and why would you follow someone who doesnt look comfortable there?) will be happy to do it for you. if no one's around and youre really scared, try taking how much speed you think you need into the jump and just fly over the deck and/or take it right into the jump and stop at the last second on the lip and judge whether it looked/felt like you had enough speed. make adjustments accordingly and hit that thing!

if youre worried about it, try to keep your first attempts constant and starting from a certain point so you can make changes each time, like start 5 feet higher, or take one less turn or whatever. much better than just winging it every time (but like i said, it's pretty impressive how well you can subconsciously feel it out)
Sep 3 2010 6:18PM
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Ftacnik
Posts: 1997 - Karma: 111
That would have been nice to know when I followed my friend (a lot bigger than me at the time) and did the same thing he did and cased it SUPER hard. My legs hurt. Thanks though, I'll keep that in mind for next season.
Sep 3 2010 6:37PM
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Cam.t
Posts: 134 - Karma: 10
yah watch other people, follow them in if its a really big jump, but id try and test it for yourself if you can, cause it helps you get good speed sense
Sep 3 2010 6:42PM
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muFFn
Posts: 1040 - Karma: 74
I was always told to aim for knuckling. Also sliding up the jump can give you an idea also.

Sorry if this was already told, kinda jumped through the thread.
Sep 3 2010 6:45PM
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Ftacnik
Posts: 1997 - Karma: 111
"aim for knuckling" I win.
Sep 3 2010 6:49PM
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dopesause
Posts: 134 - Karma: 34
the first time i just ski next to the jump to see how big the gap is, then the next run i know how fast 2 go.
Sep 3 2010 6:53PM
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Balto
Posts: 25985 - Karma: 4,404
ski up to the the drop

"hey guys, whats the speed like?"
"pretty fast, don't need any checks really"
"ok sick"
*watch person hit jump*
*drop to hit jump*

Sep 3 2010 6:56PM
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MEOWZERS
Posts: 734 - Karma: 391
have someone who already hit the jump coast you into it
Sep 3 2010 7:24PM
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^BEANS^
Posts: 624 - Karma: 248
Fallow some who has been hitting the jump before you and take the same checks as they do. I'd personally over shoot than knuckle
Sep 3 2010 7:34PM
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superskier26
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dub first hit, it works every time
Sep 3 2010 7:40PM
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Kangbang
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yea it is. i bursed my heel cause i undershot a 45 foot jump. but you also dont wanna be like simon dumont or tanner hall.
Sep 3 2010 7:42PM
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Dr.Dickless
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i have some good friends so i just follow them off
Sep 3 2010 7:46PM
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ski2sky.
Posts: 1800 - Karma: 897
pizza the whole way down for the lift, no turns, then french fry right when to reach the jump.

usually works for me
Sep 3 2010 8:29PM
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HamFaceGirl
Posts: 5242 - Karma: 2,676
Well its either this...

or this...


pick your poison
Sep 3 2010 8:49PM
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Rudy.
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i sometimes follow this kid.
Sep 3 2010 8:51PM
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pomme-de-terre
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i just look at jumps and compare them to other jumps i have already hit. then remember the speed i used for whatever jump i picture in my head and try to approximate it. maybe a little faster or slower.
Sep 3 2010 9:40PM
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BoardSideDown
Posts: 547 - Karma: 254
If you do that ask the person first. I have seen kids ride other kids backsides off a jump and the first kid eats it and the he get a ski or snowboard to the dome or back. Make sure the person in front knows your gonna be behind them.
Sep 3 2010 9:47PM
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DlX
Posts: 397 - Karma: 10
Works for me:

Ski into the jump beside the lip and when you're right beside the top of the lip do a hockey stop while keeping as much speed as you can. You should come to a full stop just at the knuckle if your speeds right. This has worked for me on jumps 15-50 feet and I've never had a super bad over/under shoot.
Sep 3 2010 9:54PM
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SKIU4EA
Posts: 2387 - Karma: 2,072
fuck it man, ski around the jump, down to the lodge, and get a cheeseburger. The fresh nourishment in your system will give you better judgement.
Sep 3 2010 9:57PM
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8088
Posts: 1090 - Karma: 156
ride down and take a look at the take off and length of the table, looks can be deceiving from up top. Once you check it out you will have a basic idea for how fast you should go
Sep 3 2010 10:12PM
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Cudder.
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hahahah
Sep 3 2010 10:15PM
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inactive
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tuck
Sep 3 2010 11:52PM
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Chompo.
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I would also say take into consideration how hard you may or may not pop compared to the other person
Sep 4 2010 12:27AM
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information**
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just go for it!
Sep 4 2010 12:57AM
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Brock.
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if you arrive early in the day than (im guessing you shred solo) just ask some random skiers if they want to do a train.
Sep 4 2010 12:57AM
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JON_MCMURRAY
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However you do it... If you're not sure DO IT! I broke my back on 2 separate occasions making the mistake of not speed checking lol
Sep 4 2010 12:59AM
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Cudder.
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who the fuck is this guy and why does he have an orange name
Sep 4 2010 1:05AM
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BcPowderHunter
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Kids......

Sep 4 2010 3:03AM
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Nedward_Plimpton
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ya dood, just dont be a puss.... if your the first one hitting it its always a lil bit of a roll of the dice. Ive broken jaws  3 times knuckling doin shit so for me, id rather catch the last 10 feet of landing than land remotely close to the knuckle. But i do feel it in my knees everyday! speed is your friend.
Sep 4 2010 1:00PM
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loganimlach
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if that wasn't sarcasm, you should be embarrassed.
Sep 4 2010 1:08PM
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belden...
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This is the best way i have found. It always works
Sep 4 2010 1:08PM
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Ftacnik
Posts: 1997 - Karma: 111
I have no clue who he is and I'm not embarrassed at all.
Sep 4 2010 1:33PM
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.jersey
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just close your eyes and start skiing towards the jump. you'll be fine
Sep 4 2010 1:39PM
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j.saaaarela
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If you pizza when you're supposed to french fry, you're gonna have a bad time.
Sep 4 2010 1:42PM
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LivinOuttaBounZ
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Dude, you do front flips off of buildings onto shrubs. You should have broken your back years ago. You're insane!
Sep 4 2010 3:46PM
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bananas
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kill yo self
Sep 4 2010 5:08PM
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lanny94
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this i was behind one of my friends and he did a turn or too landed fine then i went did a couple of turns and completly cased the jump and broke my foot
Sep 4 2010 6:25PM
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garrettwiz
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go down close your eyes and see what happens
Sep 4 2010 6:55PM
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skifoo
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if its small, go ahead and undershoot it, then youll see right speed.
if its big, go to lip, youll see flat (looks much smaller up on jump)
so remember to check it out first from the lip before doing anything..
then just go for it!
Sep 5 2010 8:26AM
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