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If First Drop made skis...

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Virtika
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If First Drop made skis.....

- what kind of skis would you want them to be- park? pow?
- what length would you prefer- 175ish? 185ish?
- what would you call them?
- what would the graphic look like?
Sep 2 2010 10:47PM
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Virtika
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This is just hypothetical of course, and before we get a bunch of hate saying we should stick to outerwear and that our skis will suck, just pretend that we would know 100% for sure that the skis would positively NOT suck.

We welcome your ideas, feedback, and creativity.
Sep 2 2010 10:49PM
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HIT
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interesting. park skis, because your outerwear seems to be park orientated
Sep 2 2010 10:51PM
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Owl
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definitely 185ish as a tall guy theres a lot of brands where they ahve nice skis but some models only go up to like 179 and such. and id say make a variety of skis
Sep 2 2010 10:51PM
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L.U.P.E.
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well i think it would be dope if you made skis, as far as models i think having an equal balance between park and pow would be a good idea. for graphics i would like to se lots of vibrant colors, other then that i think watever you come up with would be dope ur alredy doin a sick job with your outerwear. but where would this leave L.J.? haha
Sep 2 2010 10:52PM
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.SimonB.
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make skis with a pocket connecting the two skis...
Sep 2 2010 10:54PM
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HalfandHalf
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and 185ish, but both park and pow
Sep 2 2010 10:55PM
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*simba*
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9 stage rocker.
Sep 2 2010 10:55PM
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PhilboydStudge
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To start out, a set of park and pow skis would be good, with a few sizes for each. Like the guy above said, I do know a lot of bigger guys that complain about not being able to find skis that are big enough for them.
Sep 2 2010 10:55PM
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MADDECENT
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I would love a legit LONG park ski. Like a 185 or even a 187. I've about maxed out my 182's, and although i like particularly long skis, I'm sure there are others that also do.
Sep 2 2010 10:56PM
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dunkaroos
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park skis in 178 would be sweet...for me at least


also...my threads
Sep 2 2010 10:57PM
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2_fadez
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this.
i need somewhere to store some extra snacks, and the jacket just isn't cutting it. I need more room.
Sep 2 2010 10:57PM
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Balto
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i broke out laughing just after reading the thread title

stick to outerwear, its why you guys were started, its where you should stay. Sure do like a colab with liberty or something, but if you guys try to make skis, I dont see that going well at all
Sep 2 2010 10:59PM
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brakes
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what kind of skis would you want them to be? park!!!!111
what length would you prefer? whatever length todd walnuts uses
what would you call them? SUPA HYPHY STIX
what would the graphic look like? a HUGE picture of todd walnuts

just kiddin, but 176ish park skis from first drop with some ill graphics like the ones on last year's ar6's, you know, complex geometric designs like that would be pretty dope; as for names I'm at loss for a good one right now
Sep 2 2010 10:59PM
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Chompo.
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Personally I would love some 178 park skis. And some 185ish 5 dim pow sticks
Sep 2 2010 10:59PM
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Balto
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p.s. yes I did read the OP, but it what i think and how I feel
Sep 2 2010 11:00PM
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DUKES
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um make them for taller people so 185, use bamboo for core, use slight early rise with camber underfoot,
Sep 2 2010 11:00PM
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sagesnow
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I'd say sizes 166, 171, 185.

for some reason I think a sick name for skis would be "The Graduations" haha I have no idea why though. The First Drop Graduations...





Sep 2 2010 11:02PM
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Balto
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well XLT FD jackets are as long as a graduation gown....
Sep 2 2010 11:04PM
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Owl
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first drop vs. on3p rumble?
Sep 2 2010 11:04PM
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A.Eberhard
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1.100% park ski kind of like the a-bangs.
2.I would prefer a nice 175
3.Not to sure bad with naming stuff
4.The graphic would have to be like the ar6 really colorful and bright.
Sep 2 2010 11:04PM
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muFFn
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My threads



Sep 2 2010 11:06PM
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Balto
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god damnit

PLEASE NOTE MY COMMENTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ON3P/SCOTT/ROWEN/KIP, THEY ARE MY PERSONAL THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS AND SHOULD NOT BE RELATED TO OTHER BRANDS AT ALL IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM
Sep 2 2010 11:07PM
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nern
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park skis for sure. maybe some pow rockered skis. mabye 164 174 and 184 cm skis? would be pretty damn dope.
Sep 2 2010 11:08PM
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summersover
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put that in your sig in huge and colourful font
Sep 2 2010 11:09PM
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DUKES
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you small people have enough choices for park sticks, people over six foot always have limited choices for a perfect length
Sep 2 2010 11:09PM
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Shadows
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i would start by asking who is going to press them?
neversummer probably since theyre close? or do you guys have your own stuff?
Sep 2 2010 11:11PM
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MothaHucker
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make em 165, 75 and 85 so that theres a size for smaller people. definately make a pair of park and pow skis, my dream skis have always been like a huge rockered fat pow ski, with squared tip and tail, early taper and stuff, and have like a super mario graphic. u can call them the goomba or somethin.
Sep 2 2010 11:11PM
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J-Evs
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skis in the 180 range
and i think you should call them either First Drop or First Turns
and a ski that is good in the park yet you can take it to other parts of the mountain as well.
the graphics maybe should match the outerwear, not be too flashy or two dull, but kinda match the pattern on that years outerwear.
Sep 2 2010 11:14PM
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zerospinskier
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A park ski would be a lot easier for you guys to start out with. Pow can vary so much and there is a lot of controversy/preference stuff going on with them. Park skis however and much more standard. Just make something with a nice average waste (80-85mm).

If you're asking me specifically, I like stiff skis with lots of pop. Possibly with carbon fiber stringers, but not necessary. Butter zones are NO GOOD. They create a weird flex that I don't like. I like it stiff underfoot with a nice progressive flex pattern with just the very end of the shovel being soft. Relatively same for the tails. A length about 184cm is good. I was skeptical, but I actually do like the slight "early rise"-ish thing Surface has going on with the Nine Life/No Time. But that is a "different" type of feature that you might want to stay away from for a first ski, or not, it's your choice. My main point would be to make it stiff with no butter zones.

If you want to do a pow ski as well, I would make it fat and rockered. My favorite pow ski to date is the Hellbent. I love the design. Maybe something like that just a hair narrower to cut down on the swing weight a little. Possibly 115mm waist-ish? A TRUE length (unlike K2s 189=194) of 189cm would be great. Also a shovel and tail slightly stiffer than the Hellbent would be sweet. Basically the same flex pattern, just tightened up a bit.

That is all my individual opinion but I still want to throw it out there.
Sep 2 2010 11:15PM
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Shlogan
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it would be sick if you could make a limited edition do it all ski for next year, make it hyped and live up to the hype, and it could be a start to a great thing. work on perfecting one pair of perfect skis with something interesting that most dont have. ive seen plenty of companies try to be unique by using bamboo or a different shaped tip and tail (moment, surface), so if you could think of something more interesting than that that would be sick. id say a 96mm waist, symmetrical with more and softer rocker than k2's jib rocker or the halo/alpha and medium stiffness camber under foot would be prime for me, idk about everyone else. one thing you could really build your brand on would be lightness, if you could make them substantially lighter that would be sick too.

//rant
Sep 2 2010 11:21PM
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Panda-Please.
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i feel like 165, 175 and 185 would be a perfect option for either park or pow.
i personally would perfer pow in a smaller size because i know alot of people market to bigger riders, and k2 and line have realized that there is a a market for a smaller pow ski. Although they do not have a 165, which would be a perfect ski for a smaller person, as i know i am one.
Sep 2 2010 11:22PM
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Shlogan
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or a 115mm hellbent at some point like he said.
Sep 2 2010 11:24PM
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Piste.Off
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First Drop skis! They Come in 180 and 180T for you steezy kids. The dimensions are 120 120 120 and are meant for park only. As for skiing they're edge sucks and they aren't very durable. But they look so sick! They have removable topsheets so you can mix and match your skis to look great with your First Drop jacket and pants!
Retail Price: $700
Sep 2 2010 11:28PM
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Owl
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i was just joking :)
Sep 2 2010 11:39PM
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.nasty
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171 to 185? there should be like a 177 in there, too.
Sep 2 2010 11:42PM
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c4t_l0ver
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i like this idea
Sep 2 2010 11:43PM
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84891jnf92048
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i lose more and more respect for FD daily.... loved you guys to start off with, not so much anymore.

But i would call them Wal-Mart Pro Models, because like Wal-Mart, FD does everything, but it's all mediocre.
Sep 2 2010 11:44PM
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powday
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Make a crazy new interesting ski with technology no one has seen or used before. Specialize in that ski and focus all your time and energy into making it unique. This way everyone could find a use for it in their quiver.
Sep 2 2010 11:45PM
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clive_bixby
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would the tips and tails be interchangeable with different colors?
Sep 2 2010 11:46PM
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ski2sky.
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he doesnt represent ON3P as a company bud
Sep 2 2010 11:47PM
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curt_
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1. park ski

2. fully symmetrical

3. made for true centre mounting

4.180cm

Sep 2 2010 11:52PM
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ski2sky.
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if you guys are going to make skis... make cheap inexpensive ones... please
Sep 2 2010 11:53PM
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DeSena
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Park skis size 181. Named - LeshyMeshy and Powder Rockered skis size 189 Named. FreshyLeshy
Sep 2 2010 11:53PM
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Owl
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it was a joke haha hint my last comment
Sep 2 2010 11:55PM
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ski2sky.
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yeah... sorry i didnt read all the way down...

whatever
Sep 2 2010 11:56PM
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Fischer-Addicted
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shit.......... i thought this was a troll posting at first... sounds like there getting into the market.


Make a park/all terrain model that's like 90-100 underfoot with early rise.
Sep 2 2010 11:59PM
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Owl
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haha its cool
Sep 3 2010 12:01AM
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altadonkeys
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you're thinking of moment skis, minus super mario
Sep 3 2010 12:19AM
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-Marc-
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I think an all terrain ski would be nice, like a one ski quiver, theres not a whole lot of those on the market right now, 90-100 underfoot, with rocker, probly limited edition, not to sure if youd sell a whole lot, but if you guys made a ski I was looking for and needed a ski at that time I would for sure buy a pair!
Sep 3 2010 12:27AM
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chardi
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second page! (unless someone posts before i finish this) which by now i'm probably the 10th post down, but its still on the second page. first!

well you guys have really innovative and creative idea and designs that you put into your outerwear that no one else does. so i feel like your skis would be something like that - creative and innovative, like the newest stuff.

as far as naming - no one really cares what its named but i'm sure you guys could come up with something cool, i can't think of anything

graphics - also not as important, but your outerwear looks dope so i'm sure the skis would look ill. again, no ideas but crazy art or something all over. i'm sure it won't be boring.

lengths should be longer. start at like 171, and go up into the 191s. you guys make outerwear for men, skis should be this way too. and its tall as hell, so i'm sure the skis will be too.

for specs, theres' a lot to go into. park skis are a must, any outerwear that steezy deserves to slay the park. just make reeeeeallllyyy durable skis. thick edges, solid construction, if they won't break, then they are good. so many complaints about durability, make skis that don't break, im sure its not that easy, but thats really what we want in our park skis. also, because you are first drop and you do things like have zip off sleeves and pockets on pockets all over, you guys will probably make innovative and unique skis (i said that above!) something soft, park rocker, i prefer skis under 90 waist in the park, but thats preference, just something thats really playful and fun in the park, not your traditional ski. i can't think of anything new and amazing, but if i could, i would probably have more money.

thanks for reading, i know it was a lot. this is exciting, i would love some first drop skis!
Sep 3 2010 12:37AM
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