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Grab question?

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JackJohnSki
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so first off i spin LEFT. and when you spin left a mute grab would be grabbing my left ski with my right hand. but when i try i for some reason use my left arm to grab my right ski. is this still a mute grab? or something different?
Aug 25 2010 11:06PM
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quixotic
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leading mute
Aug 25 2010 11:09PM
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Willard
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leading mutes look cooler anyway
Aug 25 2010 11:10PM
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Milksteak
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On a related note, what's a push mute? I feel like I've heard that somewhere, but I'm not sure. Let me know if I just dreamed that, and I look like a dumbass.
Aug 25 2010 11:12PM
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quixotic
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I've never heard of it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
Aug 25 2010 11:13PM
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willy_baller
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maybe poked mute? which is where you grab mute and poke your legs out. I havent heard of push mute though...
Aug 25 2010 11:13PM
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Milksteak
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Yeah that's what I thought haha. Oh well, I was just curious.
Aug 25 2010 11:14PM
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No_Dub
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Maybe it means like your grab is pushing you through the rotation? Hahaa lolll
Aug 25 2010 11:28PM
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bob_ham
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i feel like push mute is real, is it when you grab say right hand to right ski and then push it over like a mute?? ive seen that before and dont know what it is.
Aug 25 2010 11:29PM
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JackJohnSki
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yea i always thought a push mute was right hand to right ski and left to left. but okay i've heard the people talking during like the X-Games, and they say that the mute grab helps steer you through a dub cork. would it still work with the lead mute?
Aug 25 2010 11:32PM
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Testicles
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Nope. I've heard right hand to right ski called push mutes and opposite mutes, not sure which is correct, not that it matters
Aug 25 2010 11:34PM
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Malcolm
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i doubt it. lead mutes kind of stop your rotation
Aug 25 2010 11:34PM
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quixotic
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that's called a seatbelt I'm pretty sure because your arm is reached across your body like a seatbelt. If you grab that same grab with both hands its called a guitar.
Aug 25 2010 11:35PM
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quixotic
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actually a guitar might be both hands grabbing regular mute... not sure if it matters if its lead or regular
Aug 25 2010 11:36PM
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TheHuggyBear
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we should have a sticky of all the grabs cuz there really are quite a bit if you think about different parts of the ski and different variations. ..maybe good idea??
Aug 25 2010 11:37PM
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JackJohnSki
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there's one in Trick Tip Cult. but it's dead and it isn't complete
Aug 25 2010 11:38PM
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hue.
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noob question, but is blunt crossed or uncrossed?
Aug 26 2010 12:19AM
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KevinC
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lol i would like to know this too
Aug 26 2010 12:28AM
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quixotic
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blunt is just when you grab the tip of your tail of your ski. Blunt and true tail or the same grab.
Aug 26 2010 12:34AM
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J..H
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not a noob question at all. it can be both. normally you when you its uncrossed you say uncrossed blunt and when its crossed you just say blunt
Aug 26 2010 12:34AM
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JackJohnSki
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a blunt is cross the tips and grab the INSIDE EDGE of the ski. can be leading or trailing too?
Aug 26 2010 12:35AM
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hue.
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thanks, +k to all
Aug 26 2010 12:38AM
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quixotic
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grabbing inside edge on a tail grab is called a Toxic
Aug 26 2010 12:40AM
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J..H
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i hate toxic
Aug 26 2010 12:41AM
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JackJohnSki
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than what is blunt?
Aug 26 2010 12:44AM
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quixotic
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grabbing the true tail of your ski, the very tip of it. some say its grabbing the outside edge of a tail grab, but i think most say its grabbing the very tip of the tail.
Aug 26 2010 12:48AM
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JackJohnSki
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i thought that was a true tail, or tail? haha
Aug 26 2010 12:52AM
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frogz
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grabbing the very end of your tail, not on the inside or the outside, but right on the tail. and it can be crossed or uncrossed, doesn't matter, but uncrossed is a bit harder
Aug 26 2010 12:53AM
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JackJohnSki
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thank you haha
Aug 26 2010 12:56AM
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BoardSideDown
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someone should start a "grab clarification" thread. or make a handbook!
Aug 26 2010 1:55AM
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Slettalaen
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i thought that when you mute with right hand on right ski, it was called method mute, thats what charles gagnier called it..
Aug 26 2010 2:11AM
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fatherb
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Is a push mute what TWall does in :32 of this edit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob4gUwKhIu8

+k for embed
Aug 26 2010 4:16PM
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quixotic
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That is the grab in question. Like I said before, I've never heard it called a push mute. I've only heard it called a seatbelt grab.


Aug 26 2010 4:34PM
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jamodeo
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When i think blunt i think capped tail grab no feathering you have to completely grab it three fingers at least if its not or just feathered true tail
Aug 26 2010 5:00PM
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fatherb
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I always thought blunt was the same as an uncrossed tail grab?
Aug 26 2010 5:10PM
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paulmay
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this grab is a toxic.
not a mute or a push mute or a seatbelt

it is when you grab the right ski with your right hand, in the outside part.
Aug 26 2010 5:23PM
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fatherb
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https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/cult/forumthread/thread_id/349994/

Toxic grab is listed as something different in this thread.
Aug 26 2010 5:59PM
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j.saaaarela
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i always thought seatbelt was uncrossed mute...like right hand to outside of left ski w/o cross
Aug 26 2010 11:17PM
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A_Zuck
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since were on the topic... what is the grab called thats like a daffy with a high safety... dumont does it everytime on misty 7's
Aug 26 2010 11:51PM
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bustinthejus
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Blunt =/= True Tail...

True tail = very tip
Toxic = inside edge
Blunt = outside edge
Aug 26 2010 11:54PM
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JackJohnSki
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coolest grab ever haha
Aug 27 2010 12:02AM
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jorb.co
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pretty sure its just a mute with straight legs.
Aug 27 2010 12:02AM
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will_powder
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english muffin?
Aug 27 2010 12:03AM
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A_Zuck
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i like it!
Aug 27 2010 12:05AM
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quixotic
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it's just a high safety.... with a little added steeze with the daffy.
Aug 27 2010 12:05AM
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A_Zuck
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No its not! It's an english muffin god damnit!
Aug 27 2010 12:08AM
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quixotic
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oh.. he pointed on foot up a few inches and the other one down a few inches... lets call it a completely different grab than what it is. If every grab was called something out based on how it was tweaked out there would be way too many bullshit names to remember.
Aug 27 2010 12:17AM
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A_Zuck
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check your meter... and not unless we come up with a grab dictionary/ wikipedia
Aug 27 2010 12:32AM
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LoganD
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I usually call the grab in question a pull over safety. Its a super sweet grab.

Aug 27 2010 1:41AM
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StReEtPIRATES
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thats called a phil, its just a crossed tailing safety
Aug 27 2010 1:54AM
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StReEtPIRATES
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Trailing*
Aug 27 2010 1:55AM
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