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Would finding intelligent extraterrestrial life put an end to religion?

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sk1er
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Just a thought.
Aug 25 2010 6:30PM
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wambat
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No. Intelligent extraterrestrial life is responsible for religion in the first place... something tells me, though, they didn't intend for us to fuck things up THIS badly.
Aug 25 2010 6:31PM
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Chariot of the Gods?
Aug 25 2010 6:35PM
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freestyler540
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I dont think so, the hardcore believers will make sure religion wont dissapear. Thousands of people circled the earth on boats and planes, but there is still a society bent on making people believe that the earth is still flat.
Aug 25 2010 6:41PM
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Bukkakeskitrip
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i would hope so, but it probably wouldnt.
Aug 25 2010 6:43PM
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pmw
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only difference is that there is evidence proving the earth isn't flat....

stupid analogy
Aug 25 2010 6:43PM
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Wolvmatt.
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I'm not so sure about Scientology

Aug 25 2010 6:47PM
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Steezyskis303
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and there's evidence proving that the earth is more that 6,000 years old.

your point being?
Aug 25 2010 6:47PM
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Darth_Veeder
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my threads
Aug 25 2010 6:48PM
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pmw
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my point being you will never be able to disprove the existence of a higher power
Aug 25 2010 6:48PM
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mariob
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I completely agree with the fact that there will always be hardcore believers of religion no matter wat happens, mainly because with religion comes power and this is one of the main reason that will religion will be let go. At the same time though i feel that if extraterrestrial life was found the masses would tend to stop believing in religion as it is defined today.
Aug 25 2010 6:50PM
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Steezyskis303
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you can't "prove" half of the things we call absolute fact either...
Aug 25 2010 6:51PM
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Darth_Veeder
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why though? I wouldn't stop believing in god if there were some aliens. I dont really see why you would stop believing because of aliens
Aug 25 2010 6:51PM
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freestyler540
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you can tell em that all you want, even argue to death...but they will never change their stand...just like reasoning with a religious fanatic. Thats the analogy
Aug 25 2010 6:52PM
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twin-tip-hero
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not at all. the crazy religious people in the world would just deny the fact that it happened. You can never wipe out a religion, even if there is hard evidence to disprove their thoughts.
Aug 25 2010 6:52PM
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pmw
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thats not the fucking analogy

arguing with a retard who believes the earth is flat is due to ignorance

arguing with someone who believes in god is called faith

shut up or post something intelligent
Aug 25 2010 6:54PM
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Steezyskis303
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There is a group of christians out there that aren't hardcore or very loose believers, that trust every word of the bible. I'm fairly certain that the bible mentions nothing about extraterrestrials. If that is the case, my guess would be that there would be a decline in belief.
Aug 25 2010 6:54PM
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Darth_Veeder
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so because the bible didn't mention it, it doesn't exist? so because the bible doesn't mention a whole lot about africa, china and the entire western hemisphere, those places don't exist?
Aug 25 2010 6:55PM
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Steezyskis303
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*if the human race came into contact with another life form. Maybe not from said group, although i'm sure they would have their loss, but it would definitely happen.
Aug 25 2010 6:56PM
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Steezyskis303
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i don't know it well enough to argue it, but there are people out there that hold it to its every word. My point was dumb, but I'm fairly positive that finding foreign life would convince a couple of people to become no believers.
Aug 25 2010 7:00PM
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freestyler540
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did I strike a chord with you? you seemed so offended that I questioned your faith. Alright, you want me to post something intelligent?...or just something you wanna hear?
Aug 25 2010 7:02PM
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pmw
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something intelligent...

all you have done is make a completely irrelevant and illogical analogy
Aug 25 2010 7:03PM
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drumbumocdp
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Calm down bucko.
Aug 25 2010 7:06PM
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soulskier
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ultimately, it would create more
Aug 25 2010 7:07PM
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Steezyskis303
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Aug 25 2010 7:08PM
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pmw
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one has been disproved. one can't be
Aug 25 2010 7:08PM
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Steezyskis303
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i'ma say it again

you can't fully prove half of the widely known "theories" that we call facts of life. Don't pull that card.
Aug 25 2010 7:11PM
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wambat
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Regrettably, I haven't read it yet, but I'm very familiar with many of the questions posed in the text.

I'm disappointed that my post, yours, and cmckenna='s are the only ones referring to this theory considering it makes way more sense that anything else.

Simply put, there's a school of thought that encourages questioning whether or not ancient aliens brought knowledge and technology to Earth and are, in fact, what we know as "gods" today.
Aug 25 2010 7:12PM
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mariob
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its not that i would stop believing in god, its that if we ever found extraterrestrial life this would show that many religions are flawed and thus people would lose faith in them. You can believe in god or a higher being without believing or following a religion.
Aug 25 2010 7:12PM
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pmw
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i can't.
i'm not arguing he does.

faith is present whether you believe in god or not and trying to convince one group otherwise is foolish.
Aug 25 2010 7:12PM
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pmw
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you're enforcing my point?
Aug 25 2010 7:13PM
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JahJahBinks
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atheist lolz
Aug 25 2010 7:13PM
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Darth_Veeder
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how would it show the flaws? I am trying to understand your point
Aug 25 2010 7:14PM
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Steezyskis303
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no, i'm proving your argument invalid.

There can be overwhelming fact that something does indeed exist, but for it to be defined as fact, all possible variables must be tested. In some cases the range is infinite, so you can't calculate every point.

So yes, you can not fully disprove the existence of God.
nor can you fully prove the existence.
you also can't fully prove gravity. or evolution. or several laws of physics....

Aug 25 2010 7:18PM
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pmw
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you're talking a leap of faith if arguing that a higher power doesn't exist though
Aug 25 2010 7:18PM
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Ducky.
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No
Aug 25 2010 7:20PM
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Steezyskis303
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actually you're standing on a firm ground of evidence if you do
Aug 25 2010 7:21PM
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freestyler540
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so heard of heaven? Catholics always believed heaven (up in the sky) is where God lived, where angels do their stuff and where good souls go after death. People would fight to the death that its the truth, until humans begin to fly. There are still groups of people that still deeply believe heaven is up in the clouds.
Aug 25 2010 7:21PM
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Darth_Veeder
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and thats why its called faith. because you are believing in something without fact. to try to prove god is stupid, but to disprove is just as stupid.
Aug 25 2010 7:21PM
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PeterWojnar
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As far as I'm concerned, religion is on an equal level of intelligence as believing the earth is flat. Yes, I did just call the majority of the world incredibly gullible and willing to believe anything that takes responsibility for their failures and/or unfortunate occurrences away from them.

[shitstorm]
Aug 25 2010 7:22PM
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Steezyskis303
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not fully, but you can come close
Aug 25 2010 7:23PM
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Darth_Veeder
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Not everyone believes that way. You could be deist and feel god doesn't have anything to do with anyone in their actions, he is just kind of watching.
Aug 25 2010 7:23PM
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pmw
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lets make an analogy to a court of law.

lets put a suspected murderer in this scenario. the case proving he killed a man is rock solid, or so it seems. although, ultimately, his incarceration, or lack there of is left to the jury. the jury is the general population, both in this scenario and in actuality. the jury makes there decision based on the evidence presented. a jury is more likely to declare the man guilty if enough evidence is presented to shoot down any appeal or rebuttal.
if the case is not so rock solid, how about shaky? well, in that case (no pun intended) you will see a larger degree of varying opinions amongst the jurors. some who believe the suspect (god) to be guilty (non-existent) and others who believe the suspect to be not guilty (exist)

either way, those jurors made a decision based on the amount of evidence at hand, and have faith that they made the right decision.
Aug 25 2010 7:24PM
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pmw
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i hope this is a joke. where does it say heaven is just above the clouds? s
Aug 25 2010 7:25PM
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wambat
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Dude, don't bother- this thread's a waste.
Aug 25 2010 7:29PM
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pmw
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i don't see in black and white.
Aug 25 2010 7:29PM
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PeterWojnar
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However the majority of the world that believes any form of religion believes it as a shelter from the real world. I don't care what kind of evidence you give me, it won't change my mind. People who can't accept meaningless life that ends in meaningless death pick (or accept) a religion that explains life in a way that justifies their existence in one way or another. Yes, there are exceptions (looking at you, Buddhism, Confucianism, and Maoism, among a few others) but those still perpetuate the idea of the existence of a soul in each being, which is less self-justifying, but equally irrational a concept to me.
Aug 25 2010 7:32PM
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pmw
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probably.
Aug 25 2010 7:33PM
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PeterWojnar
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in many languages, the words for "sky" and "heaven" are identical, with only context to differentiate between them.

and this one's for religion in general:

i hope this is a joke. where does it say any of these shitheads weren't dilusional? s
Aug 25 2010 7:35PM
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Steezyskis303
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i'd call those in favor of not guilty ignant mothafuckas
Aug 25 2010 7:36PM
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PeterWojnar
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and in the bad way, not the way skiers use the term.
Aug 25 2010 7:38PM
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