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J.D.
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So, some genius decided that 'Politically correct' should be applied to ski graphics, and those great looking scratch BCs that we were going to see next year are getting a graphical overhaul. Being in favour of balance, myself, I thought I'd do the same thing as the activist who wrote that article, and give everyone on NS who liked those graphics a chance to E-mail Rossi and let them know what you think about this. There are 38,000 of us. We should be able to do SOMETHING...
Those graphics kicked ass, and there's no reason something like that, which isn't intentionally offensive and has to be interpreted to be so. Pretty soon they're going to tell us that calling a ski 'Public Enemy' promotes crime, or that the 'Seth Pistol' sounds violent. Personally, I don't want to see that kind of thing happen. So let rossi know what you think, click the link below.

Go here to send Rossignol a message.


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Apr 24 2004 6:17PM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,142
correction: 'there's no reason something like that, which isn't intentionally offensive and has to be interpreted to be so, should be censored'.


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber

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Apr 24 2004 6:19PM
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dan.b
Posts: 866 - Karma: 10
how can they change the graphic of the ski if it's already in production?





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Apr 24 2004 6:31PM
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SwitchPollard
Posts: 1455 - Karma: 10
I completely agree, those graphics were nice. I heard from some other post that Rossignol was going to revert back to the 2003-2004 Graphics, and only change the color scheme. That's kind of lame, although its the ski that matters, the new graphics were quite nice.
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Apr 24 2004 6:31PM
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Apr 24 2004 6:38PM
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IHOP
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hahaha that would be funny if they just changed the color cuz arnt all the scratches exactly the same.
Apr 24 2004 6:38PM
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dead
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what did the graphics look like?
Apr 24 2004 6:38PM
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dead
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what did the graphics look like?
Apr 24 2004 6:39PM
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jksl
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look up three posts

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Apr 24 2004 6:40PM
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strode
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it would be cool to have a pair of the plain one. i don't know why, but it would be



-Strode



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Apr 24 2004 6:42PM
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Insomniac
Posts: 2816 - Karma: 185
Which are they changing? and why exactly?

And on another note, I cant tell what the second one is. And on another note, Do they have more sidecut than last years? because they sure look like it.


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Apr 24 2004 6:44PM
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strode
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the bc graphic (freddy's razor hand slashing through a girls throat supposedly) offended some pasty spineless dude and he wrote a estrogen filled article about how it was offensive to women, so they changed it.

and to me, the fs looks like a 45 angle view of the left side of a slightly angry looking porcelain mask sort of thing with a blood tear coming from the left eye. and i'm probably completely wrong too



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Abba Zabba, you my only friend
Apr 24 2004 6:48PM
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strode
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and i think those fs's in the pic are 168's and that's why they look real shaped.....i could be wrong though again



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Abba Zabba, you my only friend
Apr 24 2004 6:49PM
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dead
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oh its cause the pic ddnt load on my comp.
Apr 24 2004 6:50PM
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Insomniac
Posts: 2816 - Karma: 185
How could that offend someone???


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Apr 24 2004 6:53PM
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seward
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i dont exactly understand how the BC graphic is offensive

but as long as the dont change the FS i dont give a shit


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Apr 24 2004 6:53PM
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rossipowderhound
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That sucks balls, Those graphics look sweet

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Apr 24 2004 6:55PM
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Big_Willy
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I usually will not relegate myself to name calling but you all are DUMBSHITS! If you look closely at the graphic it is a girl getting her throat slit, the red sidewalls signify blood dripping from the wound. That is not being pc, that is just wrong. That is why the graphics were changed. Chicks ski too, you cant be that disrespectful.



'I would be embarrassed to constantly complain about my life considering all the freedom and opportunities we have today. People that can't find anything they enjoy in life simply aren't giving it a real try.' ~Nick 311
Apr 24 2004 6:56PM
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B-Har406
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thats so cool


'You do or do not, there is no try.' Yoda
Apr 24 2004 7:11PM
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ErikT
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She could just be old and those could just be wrinkles

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Apr 24 2004 7:16PM
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GeneralButtNaked
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i dont know about everybody else but when i first looked at it all i saw was abstract art





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Apr 24 2004 7:19PM
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Skiertrav
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I am going to get flamed beyond reason but...I agree with the change, however I think that they are awesome graphics. Rossi took a risk and it blew up in their face. I totally see how someone found it offensive. It would kick ass to have a pair after they're discontinued.
Apr 24 2004 7:40PM
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lucyford
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but its not like its some random chick getting her throat slit...its freddy krueger, all they're doing is portaying something from a kick ass movie.

it was a stupid move on rossis part to publicly explain what it was, cuz most ppl didnt see the girls face, and just saw the hand.

i think i can probably speak on the behalf of most girls and say that its not really offensive whatsoever

*yo, turn this sh*t up to 40, and if your sh*t don't go up to 40, get your fuckin' cd player souped up or something...let's go!
Apr 24 2004 7:47PM
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strode
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i'm a guy, and if it was a guy getting his throat slit by freddy i wouldn't be offended



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Apr 24 2004 8:08PM
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west
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Big Willy, are you serious? You must have four to six vaginas to create the estrogen to fuel a ignorant response like that.




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Apr 24 2004 8:26PM
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strode
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if i wasn't so attached to my sig that^ would be my new one



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Abba Zabba, you my only friend
Apr 24 2004 8:36PM
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fdsa
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Personally, I don't think anybody would have been offended if they hadn't said anything, so it was stupid to point out what the graphic was suppossed to be. I didn't see it before they said anything. I just thought it was some mutant alien chick w/ 3 big hairy nipples.
Apr 24 2004 10:04PM
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strode
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yeah i just thought it was some claws until someone pointed it out



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Apr 24 2004 10:20PM
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hoodratz47
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i heard that the new ones is a girl crygin with liek 5 penis's surounding her spooging onher face.... thats what i like to call 'pc'


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Apr 24 2004 10:47PM
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ifsa_alum
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If you're interested in reading Rossi's response from their Marketing Director, I posted it a few weeks ago in Ski Equipment.

Read the article.


Apr 24 2004 11:32PM
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4-Front
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damn those grapiphics r so hot!!!
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Apr 24 2004 11:39PM
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Typical
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i do not like people who ruin other's fun



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Hey now, little speedyhead,
the read on the speedmeter says
you have to go to task in the city
where people drown and people serve.
Don't be shy. Your just deserve
is only just light years to go.

Me, my thoughts are flower strewn
ocean storm, bayberry moon.
I have got to leave to find my way.
Watch the road and memorize
this life that pass before my eyes.
Nothing is going my way.

The ocean is the river's goal,
a need to leave the water knows
We're closer now than light years to go.

I have got to find the river,
bergamot and vetiver
run through my head and fall away.
Leave the road and memorize
this life that pass before my eyes.
Nothing is going my way.

There's no one left to take the lead,
but I tell you and you can see
we're closer now than light years to go.
Pick up here and chase the ride.
The river empties to the tide.
Fall into the ocean.

The river to the ocean goes,
a fortune for the undertow.
None of this is going my way.
There is nothing left to throw
of Ginger, lemon, indigo,
coriander stem and rose of hay.
Strength and courage overrides
the privileged and weary eyes
of river poet search naivete.
Pick up here and chase the ride.
The river empties to the tide.All of this is coming your way.






Smack, crack, bushwhacked.
Tie another one to the racks, baby.

Hey kids, rock and roll.
Nobody tells you where to go, baby.

What if I ride? What if you walk?
What if you rock around the clock?
Tick-tock. Tick-tock.
What if you did? What if you walk?
What if you tried to get off, baby?

Hey, kids, where are you?
Nobody tells you what to do, baby.

Hey kids, shake a leg.
Maybe you're crazy in the head, baby.

Maybe you did. Maybe you walked.
Maybe you rocked around the clock.
Tick-tock. Tick-tock.
Maybe I ride. Maybe you walk.
Maybe I drive to get off, baby.

Hey kids, shake a leg.
Maybe you're crazy in the head, baby.

Ollie, ollie.
Ollie ollie ollie.
Ollie ollie in come free, baby.

Hey, kids, where are you?
Nobody tells you what to do, baby.

Smack, crack. Shack-a-lack.
Tie another one to your back, baby.

Hey kids, rock and roll.Nobody tells you where to go, baby.

Maybe you did. Maybe you walk.
Maybe you rock around the clock
Tick-tock. Tick-tock.
Maybe I ride. Maybe you walk.
Maybe I drive to get off, baby.

Hey kids, where are you?
Nobody tells you what to do, baby.

Hey kids, rock and roll.
Nobody tells you where to go, baby, baby, baby.










I will try not to breathe.
I can hold my head still with my hands at my knees.
These eyes are the eyes of the old, shiver and fold.

I will try not to breathe.
This decision is mine. I have lived a full life
and these are the eyes that I want you to remember. Oh.

I need something to fly over my grave again.
I need something to breathe.

I will try not to burden you.
I can hold these inside. I will hold my breath
until all these shivers subside,
just look in my eyes.

I will try not to worry you.
I have seen things that you will never see.
Leave it to memory me. I shudder to breathe.

I want you to remember. Oh. (you will never see)
I need something to fly (something to fly)over my grave again. (you will never see)
I need something to breathe. (something to breathe)
Baby, don't shiver now.
Why do you shiver now? (I will see things you will never see)
I need something to fly (something to fly)
over my grave again. (I will see things you will never see)
I need something to breathe. Oh. Oh. Oh.

I will try not to worry you.
I have seen things that you will never see.
Leave it to memory me. Don't dare me to breathe.

I want you to remember. Oh. (you will never see)
I need something to fly (something to fly)
over my grave again. (you will never see)
I need something to breathe. (something to breathe)
Baby, don't shiver now.
Why do you shiver now? (I will see things you will never see)
I need something to breathe. (something to breathe - I have seen things
you will never see)
I want you to remember.





If you could see yourself now baby
It's not my fault
You used to be so in control
You're going to roll right over this one
Just roll me over, let me go
You're laying blame
Take this as no, no, no

You bang, bang, bang, bang and bang,
blame, blame, blame
You bang, bang, bang, bang and bang,
It's not my thing so let it go.

If you could see yourself now baby,
the tables are turned
the whole world hinges on your swings
your secret life of indiscreet discretions
I turn the screw, leave the screen,
Don't point your finger,You know that's not my thing

You came to bang, bang, bang, bang and bang,
blame, blame, blame
You bang, bang, bang, bang and bang,
It's not my thing so let it go.

You can cut a little worry,
I know it all too well,
I've got your number,
so does every kiss-and-tell
who dares to cross your threshhold,
happens on your way,
Stop laying blame.
You know that's not my thing.

You came to bang, bang, bang, bang and bang,
blame, blame, blame
You bang, bang, bang, bang and bang,
It's not my thing so let it go.
You bang, bang, bang, bang and bang,
blame, blame, blame
You bang, bang, bang, bang and bang,
It's not my thing so let it go.

You kiss on me, tug on me, rub on me, jump on me,
bang on me, beat on me, hit on me, let go on me,
You let go on me.




Hey, I can't find nothing on the radio
Yo! turn to that station

The world is collapsing
Around our ears
I turned up the radio
But I can't hear it

When I got to the house
And I called you out
I could tell that you had been crying, crying
It's that same sing song on the radioIt makes me sad
I meant to turn it off
To say goodbye
To leave in quiet
that radio song
Hey hey hey
I am in protest

I've everything to show
I've everything to hide
Look into my eyes
Listen

When I got to the show
Yo ho ho
I could tell that you had been crying, crying
It's that same sing song, and the DJ sucks
It makes me sad
I tried to turn it off
To say goodbye my love
That radio song
Hey hey hey

The world is collapsing
Around our ears
I turned up the radio
But I can't hear it
Yeah

I tried to sing along
But damn that radio song
Hey hey hey

I've everything to show
I've everything to hide
Look into my eyes listen to the radio
I turned up the radio
But I can't hear it
No, I can't hear it
Hey hey hey

Check it out
What are you saying
What are you playing
Who are you obeyingday out day in?
Baby baby baby
That stuff is driving me crazy
DJs communicate to the masses
Sex and violent classes
Now our children grow up prisoners
All their lives radio listeners





Life is bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The distance in your eyes
Oh no I've said too much
I set it up

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

Every whisper
Of every waking hour I'm
Choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt lost and blinded fool
Oh no I've said too much
I set it up

Consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip that brought meTo my knees failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing around
Now I've said too much
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
That was just a dream


- r.e.m.
Apr 25 2004 12:51AM
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dan.b
Posts: 866 - Karma: 10
they should change the fs graphic, not the bc




'Moé c'que j'propose cé qu'on envoye chier l'monde, on leur paye une criss de traite'
Apr 25 2004 7:04AM
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the_friesz
Posts: 1007 - Karma: 18
^^Dude, huge sig guy, if you don't like people who ruin other's fun, lose the sig, I hate having to scroll through that, it's way to much work, unless you think it's fun, then, um, lose it... You'll have to understand that Rossignol is a huge corporation with a gigantic ass to cover. But it does suck that they felt it was nessecary to change the graphic. Oh well, you can always NOT buy their ski right?
Apr 25 2004 7:17AM
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cobalt
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people complain about fucking everything. we are a nation of whiners.



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Apr 25 2004 8:18AM
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Typical
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i am just trying to say that it is Ridiculous that because a SELECT FEW thought the graphics were degrading, then felt the need to get rid of them. I mean WTF?? THERE ARE PEOPLE GETTING SHOT EVERY DAY ON TV! THERE ARE PEOPLE GETTING KNIFED TO DEATH IN MOVIES, damn it pisses me off
my old sig was in protest of posts deleted for no valid reason
Apr 25 2004 9:35AM
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the_friesz
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Well, the problem comes directly from today's court system. Only there can the needs, or opinions of the few outweigh the needs, and opinions of the many. It's a lesson of the real world, and that's how things go when tolerance and political correctness is preached as good for everything. It causes thigs like this to happen for fear of a lawsuit, which would be bound to happen. I mean I heard somewhere that an employee of some company was looking through the company's computer system and saw the words 'master' and 'slave' in there as in reference to different types of storage... They tried to sue the company on grounds of racism or something like that, I have no idea how that ended up. But it's just an example of how stupid things in this world today have gotten. By the way^ I meant nothing on the sig statement, but those were just song lyrics; 6 songs, makes a mighty long protest, this isn't a political page...
Apr 25 2004 9:44AM
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mikeski
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Mike,


Thanks for your positive comments and have every intention of continuing to be the innovative company that we are, and we do appreciate your support of the graphic... it really was not intended to offend anyone... it was done to be an abstract satire of the horror films, but clearly some were offended needlessly... it's not a question of 'giving in', it's a question of sensitivity to some people's profound feelings on the issue. We had a very very limited number of pair in the country, as the shipments of 0405 product don't begin arriving until this summer, for the most part.


All things considered, we have decided to modify the graphic... see our release below:
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ROSSIGNOL REAFFIRMS ITS COMMITMENT TO WOMEN


(Williston, VT) In a decisive move, Rossignol management leaves no question about its commitment to women and its total support in the campaign against violence.

According to François Goulet, President of Rossignol Canada and Exec. V.P. of Rossignol's USA headquarters, 'It was brought to our attention this morning that the graphic on our Scratch BC had an unintended impact. It was originally conceived, by European designers, to be a satire of the cinematic horror flicks of the 80's and 90's. This being said, after reading an article this morning regarding the depiction, we have immediately taken steps to replace the cosmetic on this ski.'

Rossignol's Scratch BC is considered the standard in the ski industry for excellence in backcountry by the youth market. Jeanne-Marie Gand, a Vice President of Rossignol and the first woman named as a Corporate Officer in the hardgoods end of the ski industry, spoke to the subject 'To be honest, I had always understood the concept as being an abstract graphic, however, upon hearing it described otherwise in the article, our Company wants there to be no potential for such an interpretation, and has taken the steps to leave no room for doubt. Rossignol has been leading the charge in the respect and development of our sport for women.'

Mr. Goulet, in his statement, thanked the writer for having brought this to the Company's attention and enabling him to act swiftly and decisively.
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I am one of the badest mother fuckers of all time.... I am one of the best singers and one of the best lookin mother fuckers you have ever seen... Hold my drink Bitch
-Rick James
Apr 25 2004 12:26PM
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flatspinner
Posts: 2701 - Karma: 546
dang, that means that there is going to be a lot of skis with no use to Rossi (the Scratch BC that were already made)....hmm....locating their factory could be of use




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Apr 25 2004 1:01PM
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trevorwoulddoit
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Those graphics ruled.


Pussyfooter, while you are at it i think you should probably make a shout out for the kkk, the aryan nation, white people in general, upper class ceo's, george bush, conservative repbulicans everywhere, anyone that says 'them niggers', cross burners, and racist homophobic misogynistic backwater bum fuck confederate flag flying neo nazi mother fuckers all across america -AlpineCowboy84

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Apr 25 2004 1:29PM
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hoodratz47
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its in italy
i can go for cheap and if somebodye wants to go with me we will break in an liberate the skeez.... for the world............!


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give american girls alcohol and theyll do anything, they turn into raging sluts who freak out when they see a cock and just have to gobble it down.............and thats the way girls should be. Lateralis
Apr 25 2004 2:24PM
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Snubluck
Posts: 2192 - Karma: 11
okay okay, they have to change it, and yeah it sucks, but what are they changing it to?

no i figured it out when he over shot the bowl and shit on the back of the toilet. then he signed my beanie.-Hoodratz47 in response to being in the same public bathroom with mike wilson
Apr 25 2004 7:14PM
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CrazedSkier1080
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hahaha ohh man read the original artical!!!

'I could think about was a famous image of Nicole Brown lying dead in a pool of her own blood with her head nearly sliced off at the neck. Her ex-husband, actor and former football great O.J. Simpson, was later found responsible for her death in a Los Angeles County civil court. Shockingly, too many people seemed to accept Nicole Brown's brutal and violent murder, at the hand of her raging ex, as little more than a fact of life, or even a kind of curious Hollywood sideshow.'

now nicole would be a hell of a graphic!!! ill buy that one anyday!

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Apr 25 2004 7:45PM
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skimack
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First of all, MIKESKI, change your icon, that's mine, second of all, that sucks about the graphics. The artist must be pissed, I thought the skis looked really cool, some of the best looking ever made with the contrasting color, and the use of negative space. I don't see how they can have a girl's tits on a ski for two years, and when they use some neg. space to signify a well known horror film, the skis get pulled. Wierd stuff, people need to chill. If you don't like them, don't buy them.
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'I'm in his nigger crew' (my little brother in response to my statement that he was in my 'digger crew')

'My knee hurts' (Jeff Merat after grinding a lunch table for an hour instead of sitting in the ski patrol shack for his torm mcl and acl which he got earlier that day.)

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Apr 25 2004 7:53PM
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west
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Breasts = ok
Famous Horror Movie graphic= not ok?




better to burn out...
...then fade away
Apr 25 2004 8:03PM
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bigkicker
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what is the graphic on th fs?



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Apr 25 2004 8:41PM
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sherLocke
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they should just put back the original scratch chick but give her some hair.




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Apr 25 2004 9:02PM
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Matty.
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i wish they made there skis Black, with a G-unit sign, and the chick, oh shit, they did make black scratches one year

-Matty
High North Session 4, 2004
Apr 25 2004 9:26PM
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mwhahaha
Posts: 242 - Karma: 10
i find the robot on the spaceframes to be offencive because there cool looking and they make aur youth want to be robots not humans...
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Apr 25 2004 11:49PM
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hoodratz47
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^YES^


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give american girls alcohol and theyll do anything, they turn into raging sluts who freak out when they see a cock and just have to gobble it down.............and thats the way girls should be. Lateralis
Apr 25 2004 11:51PM
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feezy
Posts: 2022 - Karma: 23
And the Volkl skis with the semen woman give me a massive erection.


Quote of the week: mabye we should chain you to a tree in africa and have a buche of homo's with aids do you and show you that your gay.

Apr 26 2004 12:01AM
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