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seward
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so im thinking about getting a laptop for school next year and was told to take a serious look at ibooks.

ive only ever used a mac once for about a hour to edit a small video for class and i loved how easy the programs were to use.

but if i get a mac is it gonna be a bitch to get programs for and stuff like that?

for example if i start typing a essay in microsoft word will i be able to save it and start typing the rest of it with a mac?
or does one not work with the other?

its just small things like that im worried about, i want to get a mac for video and picture editing and such but i also would like to be able to use it for downloading songs, talk on msn, type up school work etc.

if anyone knows a little about them that would be great


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Apr 18 2004 10:31AM
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freeskiing04
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save more money and get a powerbook, you won't regret it
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Apr 18 2004 10:32AM
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J.D.
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^No, don't do that. I cannot for the life of me figure out why they charge so much more for powerbooks. They do not appear to have any serious advantages over the Ibook, which is a stellar machine at a reasonable price. You won't have any issues getting software, unless you mean games.


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Apr 18 2004 12:07PM
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lj5
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ibook? what is that some kind of new book? fuck reading and go ski pussy!


Apr 18 2004 12:12PM
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Vtsnowski
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powerbook





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Apr 18 2004 12:41PM
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Lord_Piot
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ya they are 100% compatible (ms office programs)

they are cool but for your money you could get a better PC laptop
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Apr 18 2004 1:35PM
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J.D.
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^No, you couldn't. for under 2000$?? Yeah right. You'd have to spend upwards of 3 to get a better PC. (CDN funds)


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''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 18 2004 2:27PM
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TwinTipRider
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man i wouldent spend to much money on a mac i used them for years and i dont find them good at all just save some hassle and get a computer with a microsoft os ...every one in the world uses it so save time and money .. plus it's not 100% compatible some things are and some are not
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Apr 18 2004 2:40PM
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seward
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im not really worried about the cost of a laptop or anything cause its paid for

i just wanted to know how compatable a microsoft computer would be with a mac and vice versa, word processing is the big one.




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Apr 18 2004 3:45PM
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powstash1
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to answer some of your question...macs and pcs are becoming more and more compatible...apple and microsoft are set to release microsoft office 2004 for mac...i'm assuming that pc word files will transfer to a mac if you are using office for on both a mac and a pc...apple is def trying to make their machines less exclusive and easier to use with other computers...you can network pcs and mac together and fileshare so you should be fine...the ibook is a great laptop for the money and the powerbook is a rad machine also...i'm actually deciding whether to get a powerbook to take to school in the fall in place of my dell 2650...any thoughts?

the setup i think i'd get is this...12-inch powerbook, 60 gig hard drive, 512 ram...no superdrive just the combo-drive...i'm using it mostly for school (papers, research, internet, email, digital photo and music)...i just want an all aroung soild laptop that isn't going to crap out on me and i hear macs hold up better than pcs.....also, does typing on a mac feel any different than typing on a pc?

i'm not trying to overtake your thread, but i figured i'd throw in some questions without starting a new thread...thanks
Apr 18 2004 4:41PM
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J.D.
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^No, essentially the same, no difference aside from what you'd notice between a toshiba and a dell laptop (every computer has a different keyboard). And MS word docs are cross-platform compatible. If you ever have issues, you can A) copy and paste the text into an email and send it to yourself or B) save the file in rich text format, which PCs and Macs can both read. But i never have issues with transfering word files between Mac and PC. I have had difficulties with Corel Wordperfect format though, if you use that. Big bonus, you don't have to worry about viruses at all, and if you plan to be online at a school, they're a serious problem. The wireless network at my U results in infected computers all the time; the second you log on, if you don't have a firewall, a virus detection system, and virus definitions updated as recently as that day, you're screwed. They do hold up better than PCs as far as the technology deterioration is concerned, but they'll break just as easily as some PCs if you're too rough with them physically... dropping laptops is never a good plan.


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''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

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Apr 18 2004 4:50PM
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TwinTipRider
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it is true about them holding up better ...macs tend not to crash as much and if they do every thing is saved where on a pc it's all lost 90% of the time

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Apr 18 2004 6:04PM
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lj5
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dude wait till the g5 powerbooks get out because i can guarentee you they will be waaaay faster and cost the same so i would wait a lil while if i were you. and yes macs do evrything that pcs do in fact i have microsft office for my mac and i use pc aswell and go back and forth
Apr 18 2004 6:31PM
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Keenan
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g4 ibooks are tight. powerbooks are sweet, but if you're not rich, they're impractical for students. i'd suggest looking on smalldog.com for any display models, it'll knock off a few hundred bucks for a new machine. i hvae a g3 ibook and it works wonders, with an upgrade to 640 meg, i can run multiple editting programs with panther, never once crashed. however i have melted the logic board SO BUY APPLE CARE, they'll replace the computer at will.
Apr 18 2004 6:52PM
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powstash1
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when are the g5 powerbooks coming out?
Apr 18 2004 9:21PM
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Keenan
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G5 powerbooks will be INSANE. people are estimating this summer, yet mac is being safe saying in a year. they're going to be carbon fiber. tiight.
Apr 18 2004 11:10PM
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J.D.
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J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 18 2004 11:18PM
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J.D.
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J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 18 2004 11:19PM
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seward
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didnt the g4's like just relativly recently come out?


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Apr 18 2004 11:20PM
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powstash1
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holy shit...those new powerbooks look insane!...where the hell are the ports though?...other side?...it's so fucken thin too, damn...if they release this summer i'm on it, long as they're comparably priced to the g4s...anymore info?
Apr 18 2004 11:35PM
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J.D.
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and yet, in japan, they think it'll look like this:


When it's closed, this one looks like the side of the G5 tower. It's sweet.


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 12:33AM
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J.D.
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see if this works...


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''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 12:34AM
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powstash1
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i like the first design better, it's cleaner and i don't think i'd like the overhang at the top of the screen on the japanese model...there is no set release date yet right?
Apr 19 2004 12:37AM
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J.D.
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No, but if it's earlier than Jan 05 I'll be surprised. Here's some more cool stuff, if you like tablet pcs: the IPad.




J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 12:45AM
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J.D.
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Imac G5:



J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 12:46AM
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Jib_This
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I've been lusting after a new mac for a while. Thankfully, I can see that Apple isn't going to stop dropping awesome product on us anytime soon, so I can wait a little.




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Apr 19 2004 12:51AM
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J.D.
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^Heh who knows if they'll end up making that...
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J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 12:51AM
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powstash1
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damn, apple is so nice...that pad looks really clean and the new imac looks pretty tight too...i don't think i can wait til january though...so i may just have to get a g4 powerbook...it's a good investment right?
Apr 19 2004 12:51AM
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J.D.
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We hope so, jib this... they're having a hell of a time cooling these high-power processors. G4 Powerbooks get really hot, and it's a major issue to keep the G5 running without melting half the machine in the process. this is why I think the next machines are going to take time.


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 12:53AM
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J.D.
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G5 Cube prototype




J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 1:06AM
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powstash1
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wait...the G4s have a hard time staying cool?...what's the problem?...is the powerbook not the comp i want if my comp at school will be on all the time...?
Apr 19 2004 1:14AM
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J.D.
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personally, I don't know why anyone would spend that kind of money on a powerbook when the Ibook has the same specs. The only visible differences are the frame and ram expandability (powerbooks can go up to a gig, Ibooks 640 megs). They run a bit faster with the 512 L2 cache, but it's not nearly enough of a difference to warrant the price increase. And yeah, they get very hot. The Ibooks do too, though less so for some reason; might be the nonmetal case. But the processor is a hot one... if you were to upgrade a G3 lombard to a g4, you would run the risk of melting the motherboard. Not that new pcs have it much better:

''A report by PC World magazine examines the increasing heat generated by Intel’s Pentium 4 chips, and says that by 2005 high-speed processors will be as hot as a 'nuclear reactor,' in 2010 they'll hit 'rocket nozzle' extremes, and by 2015 they'll be as hot as 'the surface of the sun.'

According to Patrick Gelsinger, chief technical officer of Intel, 'We don't know how to cool a 5000-watt processor,' he said. Besides, even if bigger fans and heat sinks were to work, people want smaller desktops and notebooks, not larger ones, he said. He also said that future chips will be measured in TIPS, or tera-instructions per second and that future desktop PCs will handle the processing chores of today's supercomputers.''


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 1:22AM
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Meh42
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you know whats great, the so called moores law is complete shit, i read an interview with the guy (moore) and he didnt mean it like that at all, but yet someone interpreted that and named a law after him
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Apr 19 2004 1:29AM
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J.D.
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ftp://download.intel.com/research/silicon/moorespaper.pdf

^Moore's original paper. Interpret it for yourself.


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber
Apr 19 2004 1:38AM
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powstash1
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so will or will not an ibook or powerbook hold up to being on for the greater portion of a day...even consecutive days...?
Apr 19 2004 1:42AM
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Meh42
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damn someone called me out on that... ahahah just kidding but i didnt even read the interview that close i just thought it would be a good conversation starter
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'michael moore called...said he is ready to fuck you again' - SUpilot

'Yeah, most pros are strict Mormons. I read an interview with Tanner where he talked about his experience with a caffinated beverage. He said that it screwed up his style because he was poisoning the temple that is his body. Then some of his wives left him.' - Mistaskier
Apr 19 2004 1:48AM
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mammothpunks
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i have my 1.25ghz powerbook g4 on for most the day every day and havent had problems with it. it does get extremely hot, but you can get a stand to prop it up on so there is air circulating under it and helps cool it down. pretty much any software you want you can get on macs - ms office adobe cs studio are two big groups of software. most high end games are coming out on mac now and if you do need to run a windows application for some reason, you can just install virtual pc and run 98/2000/xp on your mac

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Apr 19 2004 11:39AM
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the_friesz
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Lucky for you all I'm actually in Japan right now.
Apr 19 2004 11:51AM
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jarossamdb7
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ooh, it looks cool (too bad macs are confining to use!) also, that palm piolt as a retatded shape to it, it should be wide and flat not thin and tall.

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Apr 22 2004 5:42PM
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Snubluck
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^ such a lie, they are not. They are so much more free, most people i know complain that they don' have the right click mouse button, but it doesn't matter, wait for the g5, holy shit those are sick.

I have a g4 ibook, personally the powerbook is just wasted, the only thing i can think of off the top of my head is they max out on ram at like 1.5 gig, and you don't need that. Go for the ibook unless you have excess with nothing else to spend, then powerbook. PC's are too damn constricing and the errors and stuff are so stupid, too many hidden files.

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Apr 23 2004 11:12PM
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ArMaDaSkiz
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right now im using my PowerBook G4 its so fuckin sick , editing videos is the hottest thing out.
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Apr 24 2004 8:06AM
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J.D.
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Hmmm... g4 powerbooks just got a lot faster.


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

''Gay people are fags'' -Atlantaski

''dude i am literat i just cant spell worth shit u got prob with it bitch'' -Bridgerbowlskier

''Gay marriages are gay.'' -SUpilot

'if it werent for women, i wouldnt have to wear condoms' -Hucksterjibber

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Apr 24 2004 12:14PM
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CTripper
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how is editing on ibooks? it seems like an external hard drive would be worth it to store footage, but how is the performance while editing?
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Apr 24 2004 1:29PM
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