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Comprehensive thread on Marijuana legalization: your opinon.

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ButteredToast.
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Before you shout "repost!", I'd like to take the time to have an intelligent discussion with the rest of NS on the topic of marijuana legalization.

Up until recently, I was pretty ignorant on the topic of marijuana prohibition. I don't smoke weed frequently, although I have before. A week or so ago, I finally got around to watching The Union: The Business Behind Getting High, and I have to say, I was blown away, and it has significantly changed my stance on legalization. Many of the issues they discuss are incredibly interesting, and if anyone has not seen it, please take the time to watch it. It is well worth the time.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-9077214414651731007&hl=en&fs=true style=width:400px;height:326px allowFullScreen=true allowScriptAccess=always type=application/x-shockwave-flash>

At first, I was a bit skeptical, as anyone would be, so I did my homework, and discovered that most of the things they were saying were true.


In a nutshell for those who haven't heard the facts already:
-Weed does not kill brain cells, and in fact, in some cases may actually stimulate cell growth.
-Weed does not cause cancer.
-Marijuana is one of the most universally useful plants known to man.
-Caffeine is much more addictive than Marijuana.
-Weed is a gateway drug only due to the fact that it is distributed through dealers. (Exposure to hard drugs; legalization would solve this.)

I cannot cover all the bases, as it is WAY more information than I can even begin to type. Watch the documentary for the rest of the story.

I also happened to watch a documentary by the BBC, and they did a good job of giving a neutral view on the issue.



In a nutshell:
-Marijuana does in fact increase the chances for schizophrenia, although incredibly minute.
-Marijuana does impair memory in users under 15 years of age.

In the end, the argument seems extremely lopsided. The pros of legalization abound, while - aside from feeling a little lazy for a while, and maybe eating a lot of Cheetos - the cons seem to be lacking quite a bit. It begs the question; Why in the hell isn't this legal?

SO. NS, I ask you, what's your stance on legalization? What would legalization mean for you? Why should/shouldn't we legalize it?
Jul 30 2010 2:03AM
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pmills
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Aug 1 2010 7:15AM
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BootySpunk.
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^^^

Epic and so true everything the guy said while driving high.
Aug 1 2010 11:18AM
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ButteredToast.
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at Pface, that's amazing. I guess you'd have to try that to understand what driving like that is like.

Also:




Skip to like 7:55. Absolutely unbelievable.
Aug 1 2010 11:56PM
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Campeador
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 If weed is legalized and becomes significantly cheaper in California, its just going to start a "green rush" to the state. Anyone on unemployment will see an easy opportunity to get weed for very cheap and sell it at great profit in the midwest or on the east coast.

And if you think that it'll end "drug dealing", you're kind of dumb. Sure it'll make it that way in California, but California will simply become the easy source for drug dealers who won't have to get their shit from Mexico anymore. It'll spread across the whole US, unless they establish some kind of California border patrol haha. It needs to be legalized on a national level for it to be successful.

On a side note, apparently weed is already legal in Oakland, since I heard about a place that sells to anybody over 18 and they have a whole lounge area with call of duty and other activities.

http://imedicalcannabis.org/directory/grasshopper-lounge-oakland/


Aug 2 2010 1:04AM
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ButteredToast.
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Hahah "green rush."

I've never thought about that, that's interesting. Maybe if it's legalized, prices will drop?

I mean if dealers can get it much cheaper, maybe they'll sell it wayyy cheaper as well?
Aug 2 2010 1:30AM
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Thenowhereman42
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That better not happen. There are too many people here already causing traffic and shit. And yeah Oakland has the whole "Oaksterdam" thing going on, its pretty cool. Apparently if you have a doctor's recommendation and you are flying out of Oakland airport, they will allow you to bring weed with you, and not notify whatever airport you are flying in to that you have it.

I think if California legalizes, and thats a big if, not much will change. People will open stores similar to the clubs we have now, and a lot of people will make a lot of money. The DEA will occasionally come and be dicks and illegally raid our legal institutions. Only difference is people won't need some false medical reason anymore. Honestly I'll probably get in to the business. I saw how easy it was to make money during the big medical boom before they cracked down and closed all but the original clubs.

Doesn't make a difference to me though, more competition = better prices.
Aug 3 2010 3:29PM
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b-ladd
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From what I've heard, that "green rush" is already happening in CA and CO. Also, who actually smokes that shit from Mexico?
Aug 3 2010 3:47PM
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Campeador
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Sure its happening, but on a much smaller scale than it otherwise would. Still, think about it, if you go to a club nowadays they charge anywhere from $280 to $400 for an oz. Thats more expensive than street prices. There are people who already do that, but their ain't that much profit in that. The people who make money are the ones who go to Humboldt and pick up a pound for like 2800 and take it elsewhere. I knew kids who use to double their money on ounces by just taking it to the desert in Nevada. Now think is the prices dropped to say $100 or less. Now the profit incentive shoots up, especially if you can sell that for $55 to $60 and eighth in the midwest or the eastcoast. Plus, whats to stop anybody and everybody from just growing in the forest (granted lots of people already do) but now the risks have gone away almost entirely.


Aug 3 2010 11:13PM
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ButteredToast.
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Bizzump for more discizzussion
Aug 26 2010 6:59PM
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B-runge
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greg your points suck
Aug 26 2010 7:20PM
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yellav
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what will happen to all the people in prison for marijuana related crimes?
Aug 26 2010 7:23PM
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B-runge
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written apology, a coupon booklet, and a release.

haha
Aug 26 2010 7:29PM
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stokedelic
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ill end this thread right now.

the majority of marijuana comes from out of country. the government makes no money from it so they ban it.

/thread.

Aug 26 2010 7:52PM
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Hansel.
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\thread.

If the government didnt have a ban on it, there would be job opportunities, such as farmers. Thus helping to stimulate the economy.
Aug 26 2010 8:06PM
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MCIRONCOCK
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Alright, everyone move out. This guy declared the end of the thread, it's over.
Aug 26 2010 8:50PM
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Wolvmatt.
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It wouldn't be characteristic of Obama's totalitarian regime for people to have the right to do what they want with their lifes.

Fuck both parties.

Aug 26 2010 9:52PM
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C.Apple
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False majority of marijuana comes from inside the country. Smuggling Cannabis is twice as hard as it once was. The amount of cannabis coming out of Nor'cal has tripled in the past 4 years. Any one who does not think this is the gold rush of our generation is a fool.
Aug 26 2010 10:15PM
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