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The Christians are at it again

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the604
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http://www.pulltheplugonatheism.com/

check it out. mind boggling. you'll have to navigate through the site to see what I mean, so you'll probably need more than 2 minutes.
Jul 26 2010 8:46PM
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horner
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Jul 26 2010 8:51PM
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P_Steezy
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since athiest vs christian arguments usually go nowhere/require too much typing and reading, I am just gonna go with my favorite quote:

"We are all atheists about most of the gods humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

-Richard Dawkins
Jul 26 2010 8:54PM
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nickyp
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Jul 26 2010 8:57PM
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t3hb055
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Jul 26 2010 8:58PM
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C-DAWGSTYLEZ
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Regardless of what you believe in i think we can all agree that website and that dude is bullshit. Would be pretty funny if it wasn't trying to brain wash people.
Jul 26 2010 9:01PM
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84891jnf92048
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let people believe what they believe. i sure as hell dont make webpages telling you how to make your children or other family members into atheists, and i dont go from door to door asking you if you want darwin to save you. in the wise words of the beatles, "let it be."
Jul 26 2010 9:04PM
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creamypies
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If you want to laugh go to christwire.org

here is one of their recent articles


ps I am 17 and unemployed (due to school and football) and I dont know how i would ever be able to jack off 14.6 times a week
Jul 26 2010 9:34PM
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yuck
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ok the title of this thread is the definition of ignorance.

its not "the christians" its a group of weird radicals. every group has people like this.
Jul 26 2010 9:36PM
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grams.
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All I can say is us Americans think we've got EVERYTHING figured out and know whats good, and its very amusing.
Jul 26 2010 9:40PM
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cheddafries
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exactly!!

like not all blacks are gangsters
not all muslems are terrorists
not all mexicans are illegal imorgrants
ect...

i mean a handful of christian websites are complete BS, like the landover baptist one, but thats not all of them!

Jul 26 2010 9:41PM
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Hermondo
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i'm not telling you to go to that website.
Jul 26 2010 9:46PM
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JahJahBinks
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True that, but why the FUCK does it matter if someone jerks it a lot anyway.
Jul 26 2010 9:50PM
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Cheezcake.
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I lol'd

Parents! be on the lookout for these signs. your children may be masturbating!:

Oversleeping
locked doors
avoiding eye contact
long showers
not answering phone calls
laptops on beds
Jul 26 2010 9:51PM
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slash22
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debatable
Jul 26 2010 9:52PM
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Ski_da_Bay
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God is dead- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Jul 26 2010 9:53PM
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FerrisBueller
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they quote this:

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views. " Albert Einstein

and by them quoting this in itself, contradicts what the quote is saying, and its dumb and ironic that they use smart people as religious examples to try to persuade you into their dumb religion.
Jul 26 2010 9:56PM
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Ski_da_Bay
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I say we blow everyone that presses their opinion upon others to shit.

Nukes?
Anyone?
Jul 26 2010 9:59PM
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JahJahBinks
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no
Jul 26 2010 10:02PM
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Ski_da_Bay
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Shit, you just did it.

I'm totally gonna call up my buddy Kim Jong Il.
Jul 26 2010 10:03PM
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KRASHED
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I see a religious debate in this threads future
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Jul 26 2010 10:05PM
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Ski_da_Bay
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^ the winner.
Jul 26 2010 10:07PM
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caucasian_chad
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Obvious troll site, that graph doesn't even make sense. How can the US's unemployed population out-masturbate the total population?
Jul 26 2010 10:37PM
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fsscott
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they're always at it

and nothing good ever comes out of it
Jul 26 2010 10:53PM
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PC.
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Honestly,

If you guys really want to know, there are plenty of cases for existence of higher power. Take a philosophy class, and the Theist view is JUST as strong as the Atheist, plain and simple. Intelligent design has strong basis behind it, and can be logically argued. This guy is pretty much trying to call out the most famous Atheist of all time, Richard Dawkins, for debate. Interesting he declined.

I am Catholic (Christian) and have plenty of reasons WHY I choose to believe. Logical arguments do exist. Seemingly more and more commonly on this website children are beginning to scoff at religion in general. It should be made clear that, yes there are many crazies out there, but 98% of beleivers are everyday folk who are NOT zealot in their belief. Furthermore, there is a DOCUMENTED movement against religion by scientific organizations, as Ben Stein documented in his film, "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed." Linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed

Some reasons why I beleive:

Intelligent Design
First Cause Argument
Deterministic Universe Argument

Feel free to PM me about anything.
Jul 26 2010 11:11PM
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fsscott
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[ Intelligent design has strong basis behind it, and can be logically argued. ]

Enlighten us.
Jul 26 2010 11:14PM
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KarmaInitiative
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i politely disagree
Jul 26 2010 11:15PM
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the604
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not meant to be ignorant whatsoever, merely just a website i found that and thought it would spark decent discussing in NSG instead of troll threads.

christians was a general term for religion, sorry if the title offended anyone
Jul 26 2010 11:32PM
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Holte
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I wonder what Gnartron thinks of the matter...
Jul 26 2010 11:39PM
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broto
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well i am a christian (i was brought up as one) but i respect ones opinions/ beliefs. sure if you don't believe the same exact thing as me, theres no reason to get all angry.
Jul 26 2010 11:42PM
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Bodhisattva_
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That would be helpful if it weren't for the fact that America forces their opinion on other people on a semi-regular basis. so you just nuked yourself.
Jul 26 2010 11:48PM
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Arabian.
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I would be absolutely devastated if Christianity turns out to be right, and our all-powerful, omniscient, ever-present God Jehovah is truly that petty that an eternity of hellfire and pain awaits those who are not his cheerleader. Christianity is an insult to the concept of God, and is a plague on our Earth.
Jul 26 2010 11:53PM
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PC.
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Word. People will always disagree.
Jul 26 2010 11:54PM
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PC.
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Though I'd like to hear what you believe, and why. What do you have to base off of, and how is it stronger than Christian beliefs in general? I'm taking it that you're an Evidentialist.
Jul 26 2010 11:55PM
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king.tubby
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NOT debatable. you're actually wrong
Jul 26 2010 11:59PM
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PC.
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The planets revolve in a seemingly perfect array year after year. The planets, at least Earth for us in particular, is placed perfectly for liquid water, heat, and a varying of other effects. Seasons come and go, blah blah, blah, this can be repeated over and over.

IG (Intelligent design) simply states that it makes much MORE sense to believe that something created ALL of this, rather than pure chance. Pure chance in TRILLIONS that the primordial soup was rendered in such a way that life could be created and flourish into what it is today. Ockam's Razor states essentially that the simplest answer is most often the correct one. Therefore, the mathematical probabilities simply state the chance of a higher power, a greater being of INTELLIGENT DESIGN creating the universe are much more reliable than hoping that this all was pure happenstance.

This is very lamens term's and I've only begun to really understand the whole picture, but yeah, you can sorta get my drift.
Jul 27 2010 12:07AM
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Bart.Man
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WOW! Could they have done anything else to make this letter more ridiculous?!

“Mom, dad, after my first semester at college, I have to tell you that I don’t believe in God anymore. Science has proven evolution to be true. The Bible is a book of fairy tales. There is no absolute right and wrong. I know this goes against your values, but I now believe in gay marriage and a woman’s right to choose. I don’t want to hurt you, but I have to be open and honest with you--I’m moving in with my girlfriend. This doesn’t change my love for you, and I hope you feel the same about me . . . .”
Jul 27 2010 12:11AM
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Bodhisattva_
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In the words of Karmainitiative, and my own, I politely disagree you ignorant fuck. going to heaven doesn't mean being God's "cheerleader".
Jul 27 2010 12:15AM
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the604
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this is what i saw as well. some people sure are different
Jul 27 2010 12:18AM
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Arabian.
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You need to work on spelling and citation. Where are your citations that prove an intelligent "creator" is mathematically more probable than life on Earth?

Let's look at the real facts here:

Life on Earth is a combination of factors ranging from distance from the sun, to chance cosmic collisions with ice-bearing asteroids early in the planet's history.

Now, how is the probability of these factors greater than the idea that an all knowing, all powerful master being (that fulfills all criteria of a "perfect being"), of which there is only 1 in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE, came to our insignificant solar system, which is one in a trillion in our galaxy, among 10^16 other galaxies in this great universe (which actually mathematically makes our situation far more common than "God"), and created US specifically for the purpose of worshiping him so that we may achieve an eternal paradise?

You are full of shit, and you should be ashamed you wrote that bullshit that I just quoted.
Jul 27 2010 12:19AM
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Arabian.
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You are ignorant of Christian dynamics. The first level of Hell is reserved for righteous people who did not believe in God. You cannot be a good person and not believe in God and still get into Heaven. Provide some evidence that you know what the fuck you're talking about before you "politely disagree" with this ignorant fuck you ignorant fuck.
Jul 27 2010 12:20AM
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PC.
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First thing, chill the fuck out bro. You really should calm down and act like a mature adult. Second thing you lost me at " Now, how is the probability of these factors greater than the idea that an all knowing, all powerful master being (that fulfills all criteria of a "perfect being"), of which there is only 1 in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE, came to our insignificant solar system, which is one in a trillion in our galaxy, among 10^16 other galaxies in this great universe."

You honestly think he physically CAME to our universe and made us then? Really? Amazing. And I'm sure he "created us to worship him so that we may achieve an eternal paradise".

No matter how you splice it, the chances of there existing SOME kind of IG are smaller than life coming to this planet from a flying comet (which is a combination of methane/ice water/ammonia/dirt, after being created from gas exploding from coalescing together over billions of years is highly debatable, though you and I will never see eye to eye on this.

Perhaps you feel some bias from your past and background, just as I do. It doesn't mean you can call me full of shit.

While writing this I tried to find an actual NON biased website for mathematical probability of ID versus evolution/bang theory but non really existed and I'm not going to waste my time on you for longer than I really have to.
Jul 27 2010 12:27AM
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the604
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there are different beliefs in many religions though. correct me if im wrong but your standpoint sounds like it comes from catholic descent, either roman or something. other churches may not believe in levels of hell, i do know that some believe in pergatory the place inbetween heaven and hell and that you have to beat purgatory to reach heaven and if you cant you go to hell, there are many beliefs, i don't think its really possible to say one is right.
Jul 27 2010 12:27AM
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Arabian.
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In the Old Testament, we are described as the chosen beings. God's greatest gift to the world. I'm starting here at this point in your post because you seem to be trying to deviate from the written word of Christian dogma to support your beliefs. YES, we are the chosen species according to the Bible. "And God gave man dominion over the inferior creatures, and the fish in the sea" etc. and so on. He created the universe for us, and us alone according to the Bible.

Now, I believe in the possibility of a higher power. The possibility of a God is still on the table and even less-than-perfect powerful beings are possible. I'm saying to you people that the God described in the Christian bible, Jehovah, is impossible, ignorant, and seriously petty. The problem that lies in our discussion is we have no solid alternative for a Genesis argument ourselves on the scientific side of things. We believe that either a big bang, or budding universe scenario, or overlapping branes caused our Universe to be. No definite answer. The probability of these are just are certainly more credible, if not more probable than the Christian God. I am not biased against the possibility of a creator, just the Christian version of that creator being.

Also, you will have trouble finding a non-biased mathematical site, because all mathematics point to the near impossibility of the Christian God.
Jul 27 2010 12:34AM
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Arabian.
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Simply put: NO. Purgatory is also a Catholic belief.

In Christian dogma, if you don't believe in God, you go straight to Hell regardless of being a good person. If you do not accept the trinity (the "right" God), then you are condemned. In Catholicism, there are middle grounds like Purgatory, and the first level of Hell. It is possible to escape provided you see the light of God in Hell or you finish your bound duty in Purgatory.




Jul 27 2010 12:39AM
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BC.
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You need to argue in a civil tone. Your rants are seemingly driven by an innate hatred of all things religious. If you want to be taken seriously as an adult grow up and stop using insults as a way to argue. You didn't directly assess anyone of his points properly. His rational still stands that intelligent design can be seen in our universe. His post was completely logical and civil. No need to attack him verbally.
Jul 27 2010 12:39AM
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PC.
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I never brought the Christian god into argument, only the theory of Intelligent Design. I myself struggle with the Triple O theory of God (essentially all caring, all powerful, and all knowing at the same time.) However, that wasn't the issue of debate, but the theory itself was. You chose to instead go into Christian bashing mode, calling me a moron in different and altogether more menacing words.

I only stated the chances of ID being completely true are just as possible as Bang theory. Genesis cannot be explained by science. Nothing can spawn everything. Something had to create the first spark, even if in a deterministic universe that created, through an ultimately unfathomable series of events, where we are today typing into our computers trying to refute each others arguments, all of which mean nothing, because neither of us are going to budge on our mindsets.
Jul 27 2010 12:41AM
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Arabian.
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That's because his points were irrational, ill-prepared, factual incorrect, and lacking in cohesive logic. Since when is Occam's Razor a credible source for an argument? Also, you kids don't know shit about religion as evidenced in your posts which seem to be completely ignorant of true Christian or Catholic practice. His rationale stands on the point that, according to Occam's razor, it is more probable that ID is evident in our universe than physical coincidence. You even got his points wrong. Read it again.
Jul 27 2010 12:44AM
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ski2sky.
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QUOTE FROM THE 2ND VIDEO ON THE HOME PAGE HAHAHAHA

"there are all sorts of places where pastors can now touch people"... ahhhh
Jul 27 2010 12:47AM
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Arabian.
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Do you even know what you mean when you say Intelligent Design? It is by definition a religious debate! The source of life in the Cosmos is the recourse of an intelligent being, and being in a Christian thread, that's what we're talking about - an intelligent being creating our universe. Unless you'd like to debate things like Species evolution rather than Cosmological evolution, Intelligent Design in a thread about christians rebelling against Atheism should only naturally be discussed with God as our being. You should've specified.
Jul 27 2010 12:48AM
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BC.
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It's funny that your labeling your opponent as "a child", when you seemingly have the most elementary debating skills between the two of you. Stop taking personal stabs at insults and address the debate in a civil manner. I have plenty of friends who are atheist, and also have varying different beliefs of my own. Doesn't mean we have to fight like children. Citing a person as "an idiot" is such a fallacy in a mature debate.
Jul 27 2010 12:50AM
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