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JDA
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I have been skiing for quite a while now and really want to get into the freestyle side of skiing, but i think i will need to buy some twin-tips before i next go skiing, what are they like to carve on? and generally ski groomers on? Can you also recommend me some twin-tips, I can spend about £400 or about $600, I have looked at Salomon Suspects and some Armadas, also do i need a special ski boot
Jul 24 2010 2:55PM
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VCharette
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First: Next time post in Gear Talk.

Second: Good job on wanting to switch to freeskiing!

It would be easyer to reccommend you a specific ski if you told us your height/weight, what type of skiing you will be doing ( ex: 20% park, 40% groomer 40% pow) . Twin tips will be much less performant on groomers than your normal carving skis but they are mandatory if you wanna ski some park. 
Jul 24 2010 3:01PM
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Otter.
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Full tilt boots
Jul 24 2010 3:03PM
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J-Dunn
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hummm well you wont perform as good on groomers but its not to bad or that much different. After 2 or 3 days you wont even remember that its a different type of ski. You get used to them really quick, and now you got the ability to ski backwards. Totaly worth it. Good job switching over. And I am a big fan of armada skis myserlf but everybody likes a different brand.
Jul 24 2010 3:05PM
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JDA
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I am 178cm and weigh 160lbs, i will probably ski 45% park, 25% Pow and 30% groomers, btw what do you mean by posting in Gear Talk, sorry about this, i have only just joined NS
Jul 24 2010 3:09PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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See the bar up top that says "Home - Forums - Pictures - Videos - Community - NSTV - Contests - Gear - NS Store" ?

Mouse over the one that says "Forums".

All of the eight types of forums will appear right below. Third one from the right says Gear Talk.

Click on that.

Gear talk is where Newschoolers talk about skis, boots, bindings, outerwear, goggles, etc. (Any sort of skiing gear).

Welcome to the mega-fun world of Freeskiing!







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Jul 24 2010 3:20PM
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J-Dunn
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Well im glade that you joined broo, welcum. And Gear talk is the same setup as this but its all about gear. Its wear you post questions like this. O and also boots don't really matter. Freestyle boots are more compfortable and might improve your performance a little bit but don't worry about them. Regular boots work just fine. You are going to want to go with and all mountian freestyle ski. If you like Armada then I trhink that the AR6, Pipe cleaners (great on groomers), and also the El Ray would be sick for you. Id go with the cleaners. Just my opinoin though. They will hold your wieght fine but still be poppy and perform wonders on the groomers. Fat enough for a little powder.
Jul 24 2010 3:21PM
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zagfan5
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welcome to the gongshow
Jul 24 2010 3:25PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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And I really think that the ON3P Jeronimo would suit your needs perfectly.

http://on3pskis.com/?page_id=50

I own a pair and they excel all over the mountain. Stiff enough to really hold an edge while carving at high speeds, poppy enough for jumps, fat enough to ski any depth of powder you may be graced by, and they are durable as hell. You can get them for an amazing price too until the 31st of July. Only $500.00.

Plus, they are run by this guy:

Iggyskier

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A true pow shredder. Not some fat old business man out to make tons of money.
Jul 24 2010 3:28PM
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VCharette
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Hm... I don't think the El Ray would be a good choice if he's gonna ski outside of the park. Those skis are soft as hell and they would suck on groomers and be horrible in powder. The Cryptonites would probably be a good compromise they might be a bit stiff at first in the park for a begginner but they will be doing good on groomers and alright in pow I guess. I heard good things about next year's ar7 that could be a good option too. I would tell you to go to your local shop and see what they have and hopefully they will have something good for you.
Jul 24 2010 3:29PM
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J-Dunn
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BINGO!!!!

Pipe cleaners are sick and good on rails too.

I was wrong about the El Rays. They are way to flimsee for outside the park. They are like noodles. MY BAD

Jul 24 2010 3:35PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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But he needs a fatter ski than the Pipe Cleaner.
Jul 24 2010 3:37PM
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J-Dunn
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hummm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Thread creator, we need you to tell us where you ride and how deep  of pow you plan on hittin up!!!

Jul 24 2010 3:42PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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Definitely would help.
Jul 24 2010 3:43PM
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-AP-
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If you're trying to get skis with bindings for under $600, it would definitely be a good idea to check out the buy sell trade forum for skis. Also, if you decide that you want a certain ski, type it in in the searchbar in the upper right hand corner. Youll then be able to find reviews and hopefully some for sale for much cheaper than retail. Also, a lot of people say that suspects aren't durable.
Jul 24 2010 3:44PM
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Mtougas
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Turn back while you still can, NS is hell!
Jul 24 2010 3:52PM
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ski2sky.
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HA this.
Jul 24 2010 3:58PM
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iffe
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Park, groomers and powder... How about Line Blends or Armada ARV's? Out of these two the Blends will be better in powder, because they are a bit fatter and also have a slight rocker. K2 Kung Fujas are something to consider as well. They are rather similar to Blends.
Jul 24 2010 4:00PM
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broto
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wow im impressed with NS right now, real advice, not much sarcasm? this doesn't seem right.
Jul 24 2010 4:11PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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This is how we act when someone asks a non-stupid question.
Jul 24 2010 4:23PM
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tedmgee
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line chronics is prolly what u want
Jul 24 2010 4:31PM
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MAPLE_SYRUP
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This,

and mine come in the mail Monday!

Jul 24 2010 4:36PM
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Profpimpcain
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My first (and current) pair of twins are 4frnt MSP's... they have done me wonders, i went from a skier like you (skiing for a long time but not much park) to almost a pure park skier in a matter of a year and a half. seriously, nothing like park skiing, stomping and learning a new trick every other week is absolutely thrilling.
Jul 24 2010 5:03PM
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mr.green
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fat-y-pus alotta's no, jk but maybe some 09/10 kung fuja's
Jul 24 2010 5:06PM
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Baskin.
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I don't know if it is just me but when you start off freeskiing you  are going to say you want to shred groomers and go all over the mtn. but once you get involved in park you are going to want more park oriented skis(pow is still amazing!)

so if i were you get a park setup and you still can go all around the mtn when you feel like it but it will just take some getting used to

anthems would be a perfect choice....they are light and poppy but also seem to be fun in some soft snow

welcme to NS, eventually you will look back at this thread and laugh about your first noob days as we all do!

Jul 24 2010 9:43PM
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bob1233456
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This.
When I started, I thought I was going to be doing a lot more groomers. BUt it turns out that I just did mostly park, and maybe a few groomers everyday. So my T-Halls were perfect for the job.
So, I would recommend getting a park ski that you can still ski some pow in, instead of trying to get a ski for park, pow, and groomers.
And welcome to NS, it gets pretty addicting here
Jul 24 2010 10:18PM
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peyton
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get your skis center mounted

very common beginner error
Jul 24 2010 10:20PM
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bob1233456
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Oh, and make sure you read this: https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/457485/
Jul 24 2010 10:20PM
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JakeSalvador
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Let me explain to you how you can easily fuck up on buying "twin-tips". I started skiing when I was 9, I wanted to get into park and all that shit because I was tired of not going any farther with my abilities. About a year ago(13) I decided to get a pair of "TWIN-TIPS". So I went on down to the local Sports Authority (Fuck this place to death) and got the "coolest" pair of twin-tips in my length. Later in the season (1 month), after hitting features all day, every day I went skiing, I noticed that my sidewalls were ripped out, the bases were scraped out, and the topsheet was shot. Soon did I come to realize that I had bought a $300 ski that was meant for all mountain. Which means that you can occationally do park, do about 1/2 ft. of powder max, and groomers for life. So long story short, there is a difference in a Park Skis, and "twin-tips". Oh and don't go to sports authority for skis.

Jul 24 2010 10:41PM
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Pudge
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this.
Jul 24 2010 11:55PM
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iffe
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I would say that getting your non-symmetrical skis center mounted is a very common error. Especially if you want to ski some groomers too. Non-symmetrical skis are not meant or designed to be center mounted. They don't feel good or carve well that way.
Jul 25 2010 7:36AM
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Mr_pretzel
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Hey guys remember he is new to freeskiing so he will want something a little more forgiving I would reccomend something like masterminds, El reys, Threats or silencers. All beginner skis are normally cheap so you can just invest in a better ski later.

And welcome to ns.
Jul 25 2010 8:53AM
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HamFaceGirl
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k2 or salomon I would definitely go with, both solid companies for freeskiing and slalom. Like k2s next years ski called the press. Or if you would like something a little stiffer if your going to be ripping groomers the salomon threat would be a good choice. But always remember the first year of park is always the hardest for you and your skis. Your skis get beat up the most because you will fall a lot. But just keep into it and have a fun time!
Jul 25 2010 10:25AM
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Billek
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When entering the realm of freestyle skiing, I can say that Line skis cater to new freestylers with their well-priced, well-made products. Armada is a great brand, with superb quality, but I believe you get more ski for your buck with Line, and I would like to see someone argue with that.

Now when I think of your circumstances, while looking at Line's lineup for this year, I immediately think of the Chronic. Since birth, the Chronic has always been Line's park ski that can handle the rest of the mountain. You could easily have a 100% park year on these things just as easily as a 100% all-mountain year. There is a reason why the Chronic is one of the (if not the) longest running skis that Line makes.

At your height/weight, I'd say 183 would be perfect for you. While this might seem too big for you, you have to take into account that freestyle skis are generally lighter, and you will be mounting closer to center, so the ski will ski shorter. The added length will also ensure that you will be getting a more stable ride outside of the park, while giving you more support when you land tricks.

If you want to save some cash, you could look at an earlier model. I have never heard of a widespread problem with the Chronic, so you can rest assured that you are getting something worth buying. With some earlier Look px12 bindings, and an older pair of Chronics, you're looking at less than $500 for a complete setup that could easily give you 2 years of skiing.
Jul 25 2010 3:03PM
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arandomname
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Hold up.  Did you preorder this years Jeronimos?  If so, how do you know they are already coming?
Jul 25 2010 4:05PM
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Baskin.
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I do it...who cares if the carve is not as great my skis support me for what I need to do
you see pros mounting in front of recomended all the time...not every compnay has a symetric ski but almost every park rider has their skis at center or very close
Jul 31 2010 8:53PM
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iffe
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Someone who actually skis groomers too, for example the OP of this thread.
Aug 3 2010 9:47AM
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JDA
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Hi, Sorry for the late reply as I have been on holiday, but I spend the winter skiing around europe, mainly Tignes where there can be quite deep pow up to waist deep on some occasions. I havent skied in America yet because it is expensive (living in England) but really looking forward to exploring America in the next few years, and ride the best parks in the world (I will need to improve in the park though)
Aug 6 2010 1:12PM
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