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BP has finally fixed it

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DOOM.
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... bout fuckin' time.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/12/gulf.oil.disaster/index.html?hpt=T1
Jul 13 2010 1:14AM
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canterbury
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umm, not quite yet... "The company hopes the new cap will be able to completely contain the leaking oil, but tests are still needed to determine its effectiveness."
Jul 13 2010 1:18AM
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gus555
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you're my hero
Jul 13 2010 1:20AM
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Che~
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its not fixed, they are just putting a new cap on the well. it may not work. even if it does, IT is not fixed. there are still 4.5 million barrels of oil in the ocean. that cannot be easily fixed
Jul 13 2010 1:21AM
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DOOM.
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I didn't mean all the oil magically vanished. But this new cap hopefully will prevent more from leaking out. Clearly we're still hugely affected by the huge amount of oil that has leaked already
Jul 13 2010 1:23AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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does anyone else after watching that video think, man that seems really simple haha. how did that take 3 goddamn months?
Jul 13 2010 1:23AM
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LukeB
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that's exactly what I was thinking, I mean there has to be a reason why that was so hard because It took so damn long but that looks like what I would have done right when it started.
Jul 13 2010 1:29AM
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trap
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oh the simple minded

there is more to life then what meets the eye
Jul 13 2010 1:31AM
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Calvin.
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I <3 you.
Jul 13 2010 1:32AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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I mean i realize that, but 3 months.. to make a cap for a pipe with known dimensions.

But with virtually unlimited resources you don't think they could have done it alot faster?
Jul 13 2010 1:34AM
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ECfreeski3
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Jul 13 2010 1:35AM
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i'm going to go ahead and guess the level of pressure coming out of there has gone down a bit. possibly making it easier to put a cap on.
Jul 13 2010 1:35AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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the gallons per day spilling out was still the same if im correct. So, i'd assume that it was relatively the same pressure. Also it said that the cap weighed 150,000 pounds. so i feel like that would still have stopped it. even at much higher pressures
Jul 13 2010 1:37AM
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hurrisun
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damn it i was hoping this shit would fail I cant explain it but I loved that oil spill it was just like a big fuck you to oil companies and all these rich guys were shittin bricks and now that it has stopped gushing its only a matter of time until its forgotten about like haiti
Jul 13 2010 1:45AM
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you are wrong and the gallons per day has been changing, but very slightly. We hadn't ever expereinced the magnitude of that pressure on earth ever....... so the PSI was somewhere in the 100,000 lb/inch-squared (if i'm recalling right) so the weight of that tank would barely stop the pipe if it were 1 inch wide.

Jul 13 2010 1:45AM
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canterbury
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you really are clueless, aren't you? it's an even bigger fuck you to the environment, along with the economies of quite a large area.
Jul 13 2010 2:40AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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i stand corrected, thank you sir
Jul 13 2010 2:42AM
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hurrisun
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no im pretty sure I understand whats going on... Im in quebec one of the few english channels i get is cnn I realize its fcking the environment I think its disgusting but like i said i cant explain why I liked it so much and didnt want it to end I guess I dont like BP and i enjoyed them as the worlds enemy
Jul 13 2010 2:57AM
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Ducky.
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Fuck BP
Jul 13 2010 3:03AM
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00_Koda
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its about fucking time
Jul 13 2010 3:19AM
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BrewskiJr
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In order for them to cap it, they had to cut the pipe making the it the flow heavier than ever before. It has changed, but they are somewhat confident that this cap will work
Jul 13 2010 6:39AM
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neutralzombie
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i actually watched a special on discovery channel on sunday about this whole situation and all of their ideas and attempted solutions to fix the problem. when the leak happened the crew on the rig tried to activate the mechanisms to stop the off the flow of oil into the ocean but for some reason it didn't work. it's this big thing with a bunch of pressure valves and etc, i forget what it's called and i'm trying to find a clip. two solutions they had were to cut into the main line and put a new pressure thingy on it and that takes generally 6 months or something to build, and then either fill that one with mud or sometihng, and the other was to drill two tunnels to the well to fill them with mud and all kinds of things i'm currently sucking at explaining and that they expected would take 3 months.

a lot of their solutions have probably never been passed by us, not for our approval, but for our knowledge, and i think that it's easy to judge and say hurry the fuck up, but not knowing how long things take or what they have to do is really frustrating and doesn't help a situation.

so, yeah of course i think they're dickheads and i'm supremely pissed about an ocean of dead or dying animals. not to mention if this creates a dead zone, then we can expect more jelly fish rising(according to this other special i watched about jelly fish hahaha)

anyways. i'm trying to find a video to further explain this in less complicated terms!
Jul 13 2010 8:46AM
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neutralzombie
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anyways that mechanism is called a blow out preventer. anyways if you want to watch it it's on discover on thursday night at 9
Jul 13 2010 8:55AM
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J.DUKE
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why is there a tv AND a computer in the kitchen?
Jul 13 2010 11:53AM
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Hemulen.
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I say leave oil drilling to us norwegians, WE GOTZ MAD SKILLS
Jul 13 2010 11:56AM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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they haven't fixed shit until they clean up the oil that already came out. And that doesn't really seem possible at this point so...
Jul 13 2010 11:58AM
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last i heard you guys were still trying to figure out lightbulbs.........

:D

Jul 13 2010 12:02PM
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Zump.
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hahahaha, thank you for that
Jul 13 2010 12:05PM
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TOK
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this
Jul 13 2010 12:26PM
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neutralzombie
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you know cooking shows post the recipes online right?


besides, i hope this comment is one day a banable office. or at least that someone makes you a rancid sandwich or fills it with poison.
Jul 13 2010 12:34PM
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Microcosm
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I can understand what you mean. The oil stops leaking, the media stops reporting, and people forget. It's a terrible disaster no matter how you look at it, but if we don't learn from the mistakes then it's even more of a failure. The faster the leak stops, the faster people will  lose interest in the problem.
Jul 13 2010 12:52PM
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trap
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ban? you honestly take offense to that? pathetic.
Jul 13 2010 12:54PM
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Microcosm
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From what I've gathered the mechanism that was supposed to stop the flow had failed prior to the leak. The real problem was that no one fixed that safety mechanism and then when it was needed.. well..
Jul 13 2010 12:56PM
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neutralzombie
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why is it pathetic? what's pathetic is that you got banned and you're still here to harass people. you clearly haven't learned much.
Jul 13 2010 12:57PM
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neutralzombie
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did u read the article?
Jul 13 2010 1:02PM
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trap
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whaa? do you know who i am?

its pathetic because its such a foolish, immature, played joke. if you started saying who told you to stop watching sportscenter, well, i would not care. i would laugh at the fact that for a portion of the male population, its relatively true. to take offense to generic stereotypes and diminutive puns is silly. get over it.

and if you think im the kid who posted the first comment triggering your response, you're wrong.
Jul 13 2010 1:03PM
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neutralzombie
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no i don't think you're that kid.

and no offense, but white men haven't really been oppressed or exploited or beaten for several decades, so let's not go into what's ok and not okay. i think the joke is flat, it's not funny, it's offensive and that's just my opinion. if you wanna discuss it, then pm me so the thread can stay on topic for once.
Jul 13 2010 1:08PM
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Microcosm
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Naah... sorry dude. That kid's comment was bullshit, I'd be pretty upset too. As a guy I gotta say, we're fucking lucky we don't have to put up with a ton of bullshit sexism remarks constantly being fired at us. It goes a lot further than just one remark by an ignorant twelve year old. In my time on NS I've seen so many kitchen and sandwich jokes following any random post by a pink name. That's a pretty low standard for our community. And we wonder why more chicks don't ski?
Jul 13 2010 1:10PM
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trap
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nah, ill discuss it here. (sorry, i dont feel like pm's)
please do not pull the "sex" card. you're like the black person that does a shitty parking job and if spoken to about it goes "is this because I'm black?!" (yes that is an experience i've had)
YOU were not oppressed, exploited, or beaten for decades. you're just a catalyst feeding off of their pain and suffering. ultimately, all you're doing is attenuating their pain and suffering. stop. get over yourself, and realize that the modern woman in many aspects is superior to the man. for example, in the eyes of law, in court, etc.
Jul 13 2010 1:14PM
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trap
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is it pathetic? yes
should offense be taken to them? not at all. unless you're insecure
Jul 13 2010 1:15PM
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neutralzombie
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you clearly need to stop before you sound too much like a fucking idiot.
Jul 13 2010 1:15PM
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trap
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hahaha, thats your cop out? weak.
Jul 13 2010 1:16PM
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Microcosm
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Dude hoooly shit you are wrong. Seriously the oppression of minorities and women is still a huge issue in the US. It's ridiculous to think it's not. Be very, very happy you're a white male. And you have the money to ski! You lucky fuck, be happy.
Jul 13 2010 1:16PM
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montanan
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^ i am damn happy i am white, thats for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jul 13 2010 1:21PM
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Bragger224
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10/10
Jul 13 2010 1:23PM
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H8CH
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Do any of you realize that to design, build and install a piece of equipment like that typically takes- at quickest- 1-1.5yrs. I've been working round the clock on this, and it's blown my mind the effort put in by the engineers here to get this installed. They also started to recieve oil at the producer yesterday, again another incredible achievement. Should be starting to choke the flow back this afternoon. It's not simple though, you can't just close it in. You need to test the integrity. What we're looking for is high pressure and stable high pressure. That indicates we have well bore integrity. Then we need to ensure the existing infrastructure is stable enough to take shut in pressures. If it does and it can remain closed then happy days. But you don't just knock shit like this up overnight. I've not had a day off in 6 weeks, working 16-18 hr days.... So yup that was my 4th July weekend etc... So just give some props to the guys who have given up their family time and everything to be at bp 24/7 working to fix this. And we've done a very good job to date- nobody has done before or could do this any better or quicker- it is what it is. Keep your fingers crossed this avo and keep your eyes on the feed for the flow to start slowing down, hopefully to be shut in completely.
Jul 13 2010 1:25PM
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trap
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I'm in no way saying the life of a woman is easy, but the specific examples she decided to assert are things that she most likely has not experienced. I'm not trying to attest to her life story, because she could be part of the minority that was oppressed in the ways described by her in her previous post. if my ancestors were enslaved along the Barbary coast in the 15th century, I'm not going to bring that up in discussion to try and prove a point in an argument that only entails the now, and not the past. i get that people take offense to different things, and i apologize to you jennifa for being insensitive to that, i just find it silly to actually take offense to jokes made by young males trying to prove their superiority in a time of change (maturation) and confusion. I'm not trying to justify the jokes in any way, just find it silly on both ends.
Jul 13 2010 1:26PM
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Mavrck
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i feel like they coulda just put a hood on this mother fucker while they tried to think of a way to fix it.

like a big kitchen stove top hood that would at least catch most of it direct it up onto a ship or barge and sift the oil from the water. ya dig?
Jul 13 2010 1:34PM
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H8CH
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Nope - it would Hydrate up almost immediatley due to the ingress of cold seawater.

Cold uninhibited seawater + High pressure = gas hydrates. The Hydrate Disassociation Temperature down there is <65deg F - the ambient Temp is 39 deg f - No Bueno.

That's why we needed to keep the oil flowing out of those vents, to maintain a pressure balance above ambient to prevent the ingress of seawater.

Seriously - these are some of the smartest people on the planet, and we have done this in 3 months. 3 months is VERY quick for getting deepwater equipment installed and operating...  in fact it's more then very quick, it's nie on impossible.... 

Jul 13 2010 4:48PM
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Microcosm
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+k

It is amazing how fast everyone has been forced to be.

From an engineering stand point I'm guessing this problem is pretty awesome, though frustrating given the time pressures involved. No pun intended.
Jul 13 2010 5:35PM
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Mavrck
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ahh thank you. It seemed so simple but clearly the chemistry of it all proves way more difficult. thanks for explaining.
Jul 13 2010 8:50PM
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