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Fritz_Wetherbee
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Okay so the story goes like this.

Im headed home from working at my local mountain this past winter and pass a cop who has someone pulled over. I break and move over as far as i can (like tires on the dub yellow) but there are cars in the other lane so i couldnt move over all the way. He catches up to me like 10 miles later and says i endangered his life. he said that i made his cruiser shake like i was going to hit it... i drive a jetta and he even clocked me going 1 mile under the speed limit.

But the thing is this cop was a dick to me. A week before this i had a house fire the night my parents were leaving for vacation.. So the officer that responded gave my dad his business card in case he needed anything. My dad asked me to hold on to it for him while he was gone so i put it in my wallet. So when this cop pulled me over and i was finding my license he must have seen that card.

So when he comes back with a ticket, that has no fine listed because its BS in general, he also takes a step forward looks me right in the eye and says "and give me that business card because you shouldnt have it." even after i explained to him why i had it he told me to hand it over.

so the reason im telling this story is because i have the court hearing tomorrow for this.

Im not sure if i should mention that business card ordeal to the judge. I mean the cop was obviously being a duche to me.

And later when my parents found out they called the station and they said that before on my record it said i had run from the police when they flashed their bluies at me and hit at some building then lied to them or some shit which is NOT TRUE, and after talking to the dispatcher they fixed the record. BUT i feel like that influenced the cop to give me that ticket. Im not sure if I should use that in court though.

Any advise at all on how to behave or deal with this at all would be greatly appreciated

+k to all
Jul 13 2010 12:40AM
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ECB
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Hire my dad, he is an attorney at law, and district attorney /claim
Jul 13 2010 12:41AM
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VCharette
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I'm no lawyer but I think you should get there as drunk as possible.
Jul 13 2010 12:42AM
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.jesus.
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remember the three b's: be honest, be respectful, and be cool

good luck bud
Jul 13 2010 12:43AM
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Broseph_Stalin
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if your confident you did nothing wrong then i wouldnt be worried if i were you
Jul 13 2010 12:43AM
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Milksteak
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Wait...I don't understand what you're going to court for? Are your parents suing this guy or what?
Jul 13 2010 12:43AM
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infedel_one
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wait so why do you have a ticket?? sounds like its bullshit if you were going under the speed limit and there was a situation that would cause you to try and drive close but not hitting him...explain the situation to the judge and i think you'll get off no problem
Jul 13 2010 12:43AM
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Travapple.
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what is the significance of the card?
Jul 13 2010 12:44AM
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Bart.Man
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not to case specific, but check out adventures in legal land on youtube. this guy says his methods can get you out of any ticket
Jul 13 2010 12:44AM
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soulskier
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No real advice from this guys, just be sure to look presentable ie shirt and tie and clean shaven
Best of luck man
Jul 13 2010 12:44AM
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Aaaron.
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watch law abiding citizen.

/thread
Jul 13 2010 12:44AM
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ECB
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Yea, dressing up is key. It changes everything from speeding tickets to reduced sentences to convicted felons.
Jul 13 2010 12:45AM
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gus555
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then masterbate...in the court room
Jul 13 2010 12:49AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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haha thanks guys +k

so the ticket doesn't have like a legit name. he said i would have to send it in and they would send me a bill.

so i couldn't do research on the law, since their isnt one technically. its something like reckless endangerment against a police officer. Which i would imagine is a huge ass fine/ license suspension.


and the card thing is just him being a dick to me. like there was no reason for him to take it from me.. so we had to call the station to get a hold of him when they got back for insurance stuff.

but so the question still is, should i mention the card/false record thing to the judge, even though they dont specifically pertain to the traffic violation?
Jul 13 2010 12:49AM
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canterbury
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i'd guess that he took the card from you because he didn't want you knowing his name/number since he was giving you a bs ticket.
Jul 13 2010 12:54AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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nah, they were different cops.

roomates i guess
Jul 13 2010 12:55AM
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JacheOReally
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This doesn't name sense, why are you going to court?
Jul 13 2010 12:57AM
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Aaaron.
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it was like a remarkably less awesome dark knight
Jul 13 2010 12:58AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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" so the ticket doesn't have like a legit name. he said i would have to send it in and they would send me a bill.

so i couldn't do research on the law, since their isnt one technically. its something like reckless endangerment against a police officer. Which i would imagine is a huge ass fine/ license suspension."

Jul 13 2010 1:01AM
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trap
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so you're suing the cop, right?
Jul 13 2010 1:02AM
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Aaaron.
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i think he's just contesting the ticket..
Jul 13 2010 1:03AM
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Zent33zy
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sounds like the card is completly irrelevant to the situation
just makes no sense
oh and when making your argument, sound as smart as possible
during my court hearing for 300 dollars for filming at a plaza in the city(skateboarding)
i came in confident that i was innocent and came out that way
Jul 13 2010 1:03AM
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trap
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theres nothing to contest. what traffic violation did he break? it is illegal for a police officer to pull over a driver when they did commit a traffic violation
Jul 13 2010 1:10AM
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Aaaron.
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"reckless endangerment of an officer"
or something..
Jul 13 2010 1:11AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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hahah and thanks arizona_kid.

those videos are great.

i never thought of it like that, but in traffic cases. its always a conflict of interest. because you can never get a "fair" trial.

the judge represents the state, who is also the party attacking you. BAM
Jul 13 2010 1:11AM
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trap
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hahaha what bullshit
Jul 13 2010 1:12AM
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Fritz_Wetherbee
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I got a ticket, it had OTHER, checked and something written in it, damn i wish i had it now. but when i went home and looked up NH law it was like endangerment of a police officer.
Jul 13 2010 1:14AM
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Aaaron.
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just tell them that you did what you felt was safe for not only the police officer, but also for yourself and your property..

worst i can foresee is a slap on the hand because some cop thought you were going too fast and powertripped
Jul 13 2010 1:22AM
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.jersey
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Jul 13 2010 1:28AM
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matt.s
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the 5 D's also help.

Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and..... Dodge.
Jul 13 2010 1:29AM
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jorb.co
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youre a retard. the only word that starts with b is be. so if i say "be rude, be untruthful, be totally drunk" it could also be the "three b's"?
Jul 13 2010 2:19AM
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canterbury
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*you're (welcome)
Jul 13 2010 2:42AM
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Hemulen.
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1. Go to court
2. ?????
3.PROFIT!!

obviously your best chance. or not if youre gay and want to get prison raped
Jul 13 2010 9:26AM
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1337
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Yes, definitely bring it up. It can't hurt you at all if you mention it and say it might be reason for the officer to ticket you and that he may have been biased. Also, remember to explain the scenario to the judge as calmly and accurately as you can.
Jul 13 2010 9:31AM
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Bryan*
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just tell the truth dont lie dont say something stupid to make you look bad.
Jul 13 2010 11:31AM
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.Asain-Skiier
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My friends brothers friend got screwed by the cops. He got a MIP and was never told to go into the station to get finger prints done. after a amount of time they issued a search warrant for him and he doesn't have his license. He is going to court with a lawyer. So the moral of the story is to not get fucked by the police. Oh and to maybe call them after to see what you did. (what you did)
Jul 13 2010 11:47AM
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Chickendodo
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This, respectfully tell them that you tried to stay as far away from the cop without endangering your own life.  If they don't accept that as an excuse the world will end right then and there.
Jul 13 2010 11:49AM
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molsongolden
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find a friend's parent who is a lawyer and have them go with you. taking a lawyer makes a huge difference. Just the respect level between a judge and a lawyer is much higher than between a judge and a kid. It sounds like a BS ticket but a lawyer will be able to explain the situation much more clearly and confidently than you will.
Jul 13 2010 12:16PM
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Fischer-Addicted
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Use it all in court. . . its all useful. and yeah cops can be total dicks
Jul 13 2010 2:13PM
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mr_grom
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and the three c's: be clear, be concise, and be correct
Jul 13 2010 3:14PM
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.jesus.
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oh holy shit i lost so hard when i read this
Jul 13 2010 3:16PM
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theabortionator
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This!



But really justdeg tell the judge whats up. But be very nice about everyything. Don't just go freaking out and slamming the police for, since many judges used to be cops or have good relationships with cops.
Jul 13 2010 3:54PM
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TheButterHashira
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He was just being a dick when he took the business card from you. There isn't anything illegal or bad about have a cops business card in your wallet. It probably wouldn't be worth mentioning in court though. Chances are the court you will be in will be a tiny room with a judge and 40 other people waiting behind you.
Jul 13 2010 4:21PM
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deleted5
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omg you can do what ever you want
Jul 13 2010 4:29PM
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Benson23
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just say what you typed and you will be golden, try going on acid that would be impressive.
Jul 13 2010 4:32PM
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Dan-Man
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it is very rare and unlikely to beat the law on your own. 

you should of gotten a lawyer months ago if you are really worried about this..  good luck kid.

Jul 13 2010 4:33PM
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deleted5
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if the card has nothing to do with the ticket leave it out you'll just look like a kid saying omg he was so mean. if it has something to do with the case say something
Jul 13 2010 4:33PM
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wolvmatt
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I'm confused why you gave him the business card.  If he asked you to give him your kidney, would you do that too?
Jul 13 2010 4:34PM
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Benson23
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you sir are a fucking moron, i probably wont be the first to quote you by the time i type this, do you value your kidney as much as a business card, sarcastic noob.
Jul 13 2010 4:37PM
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